Guild Leveling Nerf Already.Follow

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Edited, Dec 14th 2010 7:47am by Geocacher

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Edited, Dec 14th 2010 7:48am by Geocacher

I understand your frustration, but maybe you just need to re-adjust.

I have taken my rogue to 85 this week and I haven't found it all too difficult.

Perhaps you could do with some gear from the AH?

Is harder, but not impossible, going to drive you away?

You don't need to get guild level 25, the rewards aren't essential. I have no intention of sticking in a guild just to get the 'perks'.

I don't see the point in being sad over something that is non-essential to me having fun.

I have my own guild named after my priest that I fall back on and keep alts in as well.

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Edited, Dec 14th 2010 7:48am by Geocacher

To be fair Geo, I think you're underrating yourself and worrying needlessly. You're saying you don't fit in anywhere, yet you've got 1700 posts and sage status on this forum. I'll believe you if you say you are a bad player, I'm just unsure why. Being bad and enjoying WoW is something I've found rarely goes together - if you're enjoying WoW, you should enjoy reading up on classes, and doing *some* research, even if it's the very basics. And those basics should be enough to get you through heroics, even in Cata, assuming you don't have some kind of muscle disease that prevents you from using an ability every two seconds.

I literally think my dad could do pretty much all pre-raid content if he just knew the basics of the class he's playing (Spell X increases the damage of spell Y, so I should use X>Y>Y>Y and gear for stat Z).

Quit WOW and go do RL stuff, they do have cooking, Archaeology and some exploring also. You will meet REAL peoples and it will help you to get your life together. You have bigger problems than the guild nerfing thingy. Wish you the best.

I'm just happy for a system that's encouraging our guild to do 5-mans together again. Those were some of the best memories from WotLK. As for the random dungeon finder, I like it some days and hate it other times. It's nice experience, but it's never as much fun as with guildies.

Also *hugs* for Geo. Hope things turn around for you soon.

When I join guilds on my alts, I often do so because it's fun. I practically troll them - but I troll them with good information. I've been in guilds where someone was discussing dungeon runs and how their tank sucked because they died. The convo went like this:

DPS: GD, what a nub tank, I just died, he can't keep hate.
Me: Did you focus fire on his target?
DPS: No way, I just AoE sh*t, a DPS's job is to do DAMAGE
Me: How much damage did you do while dead?
DPS: STFU, the healer should have healed me, I was outdamaging the other DPSers.
Me: Did they take aggro though?
DPS: No way, they don't do enough, they're not boss like me
Me: So you didn't focus fire, stole aggro, died, blamed the tank for not keeping hate, the healer for not healing, and the others DPSers for not being as good as you, but ended up most likely with less damage overall?
DPS: F*ck you man.
-You have been kicked out of (Random Guild)-

This actually happened two days ago on my druid alt . I don't take these conversations very seriously because I tend to have a thick skin; but also I'm kinda careless sometimes. The other day I accidentally angered one of my co-GMs by a thoughtless comment. Had to backpedal quickly.

Geo, I think Raw's point was that if you're not happy with your situation, escaping into videogames is probably not going to make it better. I too think you're a fine poster, and it would be a shame if you left, but if you're not happy with the game there's no reason to keep playing it, especially if it's getting in the way of other activities which would make you happier IRL. I do disagree with your points that Cataclysm is harder - single-player it hasn't been for me yet, but I'm only level 83. It's possible it gets tougher at 85 or in dungeons (only done BRC and it was pretty equivalent to WotLK), but single-player is fine for me so far. Stick it out, and hopefully it'll get better for you - if not, definitely find something that IS fun

Anyway, back on topic...

I don't mind the "nerf" much. My guild is active, but small, maybe 10 full-timers and 5 casual gamers (I'm one of those), and we're at rank 2 right now. I honestly never even looked at the ranks much - I was more worried about the reputation with the guild, which is taking me FOREVER to accumulate. It still seems like it'll be that way for a bit, but we will progress slowly. The guild is good at putting together guild events, either dungeon runs or achievement runs, so we'll skill up or get the group achievements eventually. I can only see this as being a problem is micro-guilds of less than 5 people, but in that case the guild often won't be using a lot of perks anyway. It might feel like a snub, but it seems pretty fair to me; at least, as fair as you can get.

I think that the guild exp cap is like the rested XP cap -- based on fraction of a level rather than a set amount. We're all goiing to be bumping into it at the start, but later on is when some guilds will pull ahead and others won't hit it. Is a minimum of 60-75 days for a guild to reach 25 too much?

I'm in a guild with 3 active players (including myself), and I haven't seen the daily progress bar past 10% or so. When I logged out yesterday, we were still below 20% towards level 2 (almost have the first bar filled). At this rate, the bigger guilds will make level 25 before we make level 2. None of it bothers me either. If we get there, we get there. If not, oh, well.

Within the last day or two, guild exp gains were cut to 25% of their previous value. We went from being exp-capped before I logged in in the morning to to my JC daily (around 7:00 am EST) to not capping out until late yesterday evening. This with probably 20+ people still leveling and another 10 or so at 85 grinding rep and running heroics.

@ Geo: Millions of people play WoW. If you look around hard enough, anyone can find a good group of like-minded people to join in a guild. I'm sure, even if you're on an armpit low-pop server like mine, you can find a very family-oriented guild of parents like you that play with their younger children. You can always join it on an alt and hang out in it for a week (or two, or three) to make sure that everything is age appropriate for your daughter, and where you can all make friends.

As for improving your game play, this is probably the friendliest general WoW forum for asking newbish questions and getting a good answer. I'm not being insulting, I think there's a world of difference between a newb that doesn't know and wants to learn and a n00b that doesn't know and doesn't care. You can ask just about any of us in the Druid forum if you want to know about that, or post your rogue questions over there. Theo comes across as abrasive and antisocial at times, but he also knows his sh*t.

Also, most of us generally ignore RAWDEAL, his posts hover around the border between default and sub-default for a reason.

And now I broke the first rule about karma; don't talk about your karma.

Edited, Dec 13th 2010 7:58pm by AstarintheDruid