Guild Leveling Nerf Already.Follow

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1088190414#1


I believe they remove the experienced earn via achievements, and impliment a reward over time system? Unless I'm reading it wrong.

What's not clear about it? They're removing guild achievements from giving guild XP because it's having a much bigger influence then they thought it would based on data from the beta. They want achievements to primarily be their own reward, and while they don't mind a little side bonus every now and again, they don't want it to be the point. ie: they don't want guilds leveling through achievements.

That's part of why they're changing it. Now that you don't get guild exp from achievements they're more in line with normal achievements. They don't really do much and are just for fun with the occasional fun reward (mounts, pets, titles.) No one is forcing you to run old stuff if you don't want to. Not after this change.

I do not really see what the problem is.

We all know the game gets adjusted after any major change to even things out so why the surprise about them trying to balance the guild stuff ?.

Even Aposematic, with it's 3 active members almost gets to the xp cap each day so far.

Mazra got one on his own, I think he was the dungeon guide for his BRD run.
And if you're soloing you're not in a group, inviting a random lowbie probably will work.


Edited, Dec 11th 2010 9:39am by Aethien

I really hope that you're joking, or maybe you're just stupid.

Your English is fine, your point however is less than stellar. Why does the game have to be about being better than other people? Are you unable to have fun playing the game itself, without comparing to see whose is bigger?

Actually I sort of agree with him. I do think that smaller guilds should have the ability to get level 25 guild for sure, but I do think it's unfair to penalize the larger guilds by having a daily exp cap. Or at least one that is as low as it is. Then again, maybe I'm just spoiled from beta where it took less than a week for guilds to get to level 25. I don't think it should be that crazy, but I do think some adjustment should be made.

I also think the rep cap is stupid as well, combined with requiring people to have honored rep with the guild to qualify for certain achievements. Right now my guild is trying to compete for the server first "Working Together" achievement, and we've run into several snags along the way because of this crap.

There's a weekly cap of 3500 rep a person can achieve per week, making it take approximately three weeks for a person at 80+ to get to honored with their guild. Some people in my guild got a head start on Tuesday by questing immediately when they logged in. Some people are already at Honored (which leads me to believe that the rep cap is bugged for some people), and others are only a 2-3k rep away from being Honored. I only managed to get a 600 rep lead because of going after server first herbalist and getting annoyed by the insane competition with quests.

Now several people in the guild worked very hard to get their professions maxed quickly (myself included) or to help others in getting their professions maxed by donating mats, so that they could help the guild out in getting this achievement. Only to discover on Wednesday night that that was a waste because these people aren't going to be able to get honored by Tuesday. So now we have to do the same thing again with other people who are going to get honored at 3am on Tuesday when the weekly stuff resets. This wouldn't bother me so much if Blizz had told us before hand that there was going to be a weekly rep cap. If I had known that I would have pushed myself harder to get as many quests done as possible before 3am.

Yes I realize that server firsts aren't that big of a deal, but it's still fun trying to earn them, especially in a group setting like this.

They put the cap in so huge guilds like Trollface.JPEG and Goon Squad couldn't be 25 on the first day, but they balanced the limit all wrong. The exp required for a level, and the daily cap seems to be balanced for 3 or 4 people levelling to 85, when really it should be balanced around 30 players above level 80.

Honestly, what's the point in having a cap to begin with? Trollface.JPG and it's two sister guilds were created for one reason: a guild container. Those guilds have one requirement: being a troll. The guild itself contains dozens of sub-guilds each with their own goals. Granted the guild was created by one of the best known personalities in WoW, but similar guilds exist for the exact same reason - for multiple smaller guilds to have the resources of a large guild.

I'm totally unhappy with the whole guild system. Having sooo many perks for being in a guild is just a bit too much in my opinion. Why should I be forced to be a part of a big(ger) guild just so I can level faster and get my alts heirlooms?
Right now in our guild it's just 3 people; Me, Aeth and Maz. The way things are going we might ding level 25 by the release of the next expansion. And we've really had no luck with recruiting people.
I'd love to see some change to this that either lets guilds with a lower amount of members level faster, or a change to the required level for heirlooms and other stuff that's not related to raiding or group-based PvP (Rated BGs and Arenas).

Guild rep was capped on beta, you were on the beta. This shouldn't be that surprising to you.

Guild xp was nerfed again also it would seem. You now only get 25% of the xp from quests converted to guild xp, rather then 100%. While that doesn't effect most large guilds, it is going to make guild leveling much slower for small guilds.