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So i'm not postive if the warlock changes are good or bad infact there all kinda confusing.. i liked how my affliction worked i just wanted it be a little more simple so for fights like 25 man 3D OS would not be so hard to deal correct amount of damage.

Blessing of Kings with 2% is completely and totally useless buff. Up until wrath Blessing of Kings (as far as I know) was a 10% buff.

The fact they are removing the blessing of kings talent along with improved blessing of kings is a sure sign that blessing of kings will be trainable as a 10% boost.

There was a news message on the front page of alla a little while ago where blizz stated that the no consumable ammo change would most likely not be ready for 3.1, but they would work to get it ready as soon as possible.

Personally, with my two highest toons being a Paladin and a Warlock, I'm waiting to see what they're gonna do about soul shards since they're getting rid of quivers/bags/consumable ammo for hunters.

I agree that the TG nerf seems a bit extreme.

However - Has anyone considered that hey are going beyond what they expect the nerf to be in an effort to back into the effective damage that they want?

For example: Assume that Paladin Flash of Light is considered way over-powered by Blizzard. (What ever their reasons - that's what they think - let's not debate why they think that...)

Blizz knows that FoL is currently OP, but they are not sure what's "Correct". Blizz isn't sure what is a good nerf, but they don't want to nerf palys 1% every patch for the next 6 - 8 months. Instead - they hit them hard now. Get the QQs and the B1tching out now. Then slowly bring them up through PTR, Hot-Fix, or patch testing.

Blizz decides to nerf all Paly heals by 10%.

Everyone freaks out...

Blizz slowly backs into the final nerf of say -6% through directly adjusting the FoL nerf or buffing other areas of Paly healing to make the effective change = about 6%.


While I'm sure no Warriors using TG are going to be happy - that's my guess as to what is going on. They don't want any class to feel like every patch is a new nerf. People would get really mad if EVERY patch for 1/2 a year or so was a slow nerfing process to get their class. Instead - you cut hard and deep and repair the damage later.

I'm still formatting the spell and whatnot but this is up on the wiki as well. Thanks for posting it here RP, much appreciated.

Its actually an ingenious idea. See, everyone rolls a scribe. Then you make hymn of hope glyphs and drop them in the AH for like 10g a piece. Every time someone buys one you make note of who it was and put them on your "noob" list :-D

I'm still worried how feral druids vanished. And the changes they are doing doesnt seen like we will se them again anytime soon.
Glad I respecced moonkin when wotlk came.

Wow, im gonna be truely uber with new icons!! Did they forget to nerf shammies as usual? I guess I shouldnt be complaining. XD



Oh now wait theres the nerf, Zomg. OUCH. This isnt just a nerf to shaman's its a nerf to every class since we all suffer. Boohoo, love abusing my bloodlust button on a regular basis. :(

But hey the combined totems is a rather sick idea. I love it.

Edited, Mar 2nd 2009 1:38pm by lauisifer

What do you mean how ferals disappeared? I'm personally still alive and kicking as a tank, thanks :-P Though this patch will be a major nerf for me, now that they're cutting 10% of our stamina off. But I'll still do just fine; hp has never been an issue for me and now I get a shield... then again, I'll lose a few thousand armor too. Dang. Well, we'll see.

As for feral DPS, I never saw much of that to begin with. Other specs are just more popular.

Read them closer. Feral is actually getting a buff with that damage shield ability. As for lifebloom, it sounds like a nerf, but it's actually a buff (probably). Read the second part about lifebloom. When it blooms or is dispelled, it does a mana restore effect equal to 50% of it's cost on the druid (per charge). So, overall, the change doesn't affect the mana cost....or does it? I want to know if that mana restore can crit. If so, this is actually a nice buff and will make lifebloom much more important to druids. But yeah, balance isn't affected that much by this patch, unless you count glyph changes.

Edit: Read a post on elitistjerks. They pointed out that this is definitely made to give resto druids mana back with LB, since it's 50% of the new base cost, and they get a discount to cast it in tree form, so it's effectively cheaper for pure resto druids then before (in a roundabout way). http://elitistjerks.com/f73/t45436-druid_changes_patch_3_1_a/p15/

Edited, Mar 2nd 2009 12:27pm by CrimsonNeko

I was not aware that was the normal strat....to be honest, all these changes fall in line with exactly how I play already.

I am still waiting for the ret nerf. C'mon Blizz. Don't leave me hanging!

(Good idea to instead nerf the one plate wearing class that can't heal itself, has mediocre burst damage in its main PvE dps spec and isn't drastically over-represented in Arena.)