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#1 Jan 10 2007 at 6:17 AM Rating: Default
Just a thought...!

Wouldn't it be so friggin' awesome if you could just modify your armors etc. Make them colors you like yourself instead of walking around like a multicolor clown (If not suited in Tier-gear)Also warp the surface a little... make it more or less spiky, give it a more shiny look? I would really love to make my pally look the way I really want him to look ..

Any thoughts about this matter and what the possibilities COULD be for implementing a feature like that...
#2 Jan 10 2007 at 6:40 AM Rating: Decent
This has been discussed and I'm pretty sure blizzard said it wasn't possible with the way they designed the game. Either that or they just would never do it.

Either way, it will never happen.
#3 Jan 10 2007 at 6:45 AM Rating: Decent
hmm didn't know it had been discussed already...

But just imagine how the game would look when anybody réally created their own look. I must say that sometimes I just won't equip a better item like shoulderarmor because it is just too damn ugly, I rather stay with the more good looking armor. Anyone else encountered him/herself doing this?
#4 Jan 10 2007 at 6:47 AM Rating: Good
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Ultima Online had this feature.

The only colors people ever used were black or red.
#5 Jan 10 2007 at 6:47 AM Rating: Decent
Go try Guild Wars. You can use dyes to change the color of your armor.
#6 Jan 10 2007 at 7:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Everquest Devs also said it was impossible, then one expansion out of the blue they introduced armor dyes. What it did was allow you to change the tint of your major pieces of armor. It had an additive affect to whatever the armor color was originally, so you mostly stuck to primary or dark colors, it worked great, rarely heard complaints on it, and it really improved the overall look of the game. The only hitch I remember was for the first month we saw 15% all black, 45% spider man, and 40% rainbow brite.
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#7 Jan 10 2007 at 8:17 AM Rating: Good
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I must say that sometimes I just won't equip a better item like shoulderarmor because it is just too damn ugly,


I really wish you could just 'turn off' seeing the shoulder armor like you can already 'turn off' your helm and/or cloak. Big bulky shoulders work okay on big bulky male characters but they just look tacked on with female characters and male Trolls.


As for color - I'm used to having weird mis-matched armor and will usually go for value over looks when deciding to equip a find or a quest reward but I admit that I seldom buy an AH item if it looks bad with the other stuff I've got. Right now my Warrior is wearing her smithed Mithril stuff which isn't really a 'set' but it looks great on her. :)

My Dwarf warrior does look like a rainbow explosion though. Really goofy but it's what she has to put up with since she's low-level and broke and relying on hand-me-downs from my Elves.
#8 Jan 10 2007 at 8:22 AM Rating: Good
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Something else that would be cool is too allow crafters (tailors, BS, LW) to design their gear.

Make the stats standard and identical for everyone, but make an interface where you can design the appearance in anyway you like. Make it cost gold to make new designs, or patterns but after the pattern is made the production costs the same.

People would have their very own armor and actual people could make crafted sets that match.

Once the design is made it's uploaded to the server and displayed on all machines.

The editor couldnt be very complex, i would expect more of a morph type of editor where you can stretch or condense certain areas.

This game needs something to make the crafting more desirable.
#9 Jan 10 2007 at 8:31 AM Rating: Decent
DAoC had armor dye. hard to immagine that it would be that hard to do but then I'm not a designer. seems like most people did black or red there too though.

when it comes to form and function, I am 100% function. I don't care of they are bunny slippers, if they give my hunter any more Agi or AP I'm wearing them :D
#10 Jan 10 2007 at 8:49 AM Rating: Good
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Lord xythex wrote:
The only hitch I remember was for the first month we saw 15% all black, 45% spider man, and 40% rainbow brite.


http://home.comcast.net/~wyrmryder/Untitled-7.jpg

Yup I was a rainbow brite. Baby blue bracers, red shoulders, yellow gloves, green tunic, dark blue pants, purple boots...



Be warned, if WoW gets colors, THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL GET!
#12 Jan 10 2007 at 9:03 AM Rating: Decent
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jpaugh wrote:
This has been discussed and I'm pretty sure blizzard said it wasn't possible with the way they designed the game. Either that or they just would never do it.

Either way, it will never happen.


They're lying. It is possible. And never assume it will never happen because it might. EQ was the same way.
#13 Jan 10 2007 at 9:23 AM Rating: Good
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They're lying. It is possible.

No, the way the data structures are currently designed, items can't hold different colors for different people. They'll have to re-design the item data structures for every item that would have the ability to be dyed.

The scale of that restructuring was such that the blue said it was - for all intents and purposes - impossible.

Edit: I can't find that blue post on blue tracker, but I did find Drysc's statement against the Blizzard art philosophy, which is also more of a "it's never going to happen" statement. But, like all good blue posts, it confirms nothing and offers a million ways to go back on it.

Edited, Jan 10th 2007 12:18pm by Riggy
#14 Jan 10 2007 at 9:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Prince Riggy wrote:
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They're lying. It is possible.

No, the way the data structures are currently designed, items can't hold different colors for different people. They'll have to re-design the item data structures for every item that would have the ability to be dyed.

The scale of that restructuring was such that the blue said it was - for all intents and purposes - impossible.

Edit: I can't find that blue post on blue tracker, but I did find Drysc's statement against the Blizzard art philosophy, which is also more of a "it's never going to happen" statement. But, like all good blue posts, it confirms nothing and offers a million ways to go back on it.

Edited, Jan 10th 2007 12:18pm by Riggy


I understand that. But realize I have experience with 3d graphics, databases and programming. It is possible. I understand that artistically Blizzard would rather not have it and keep gear in their prefered style. It's not an easy change but it is a possible one.
#15 Jan 10 2007 at 10:09 AM Rating: Decent
As soon as you said pally, I knew why you were posting. Welcome to the wonderful world of being a banana!
#16 Jan 10 2007 at 10:19 AM Rating: Good
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Prince Riggy wrote:
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They're lying. It is possible.

No, the way the data structures are currently designed, items can't hold different colors for different people. They'll have to re-design the item data structures for every item that would have the ability to be dyed.

The scale of that restructuring was such that the blue said it was - for all intents and purposes - impossible.

Edit: I can't find that blue post on blue tracker, but I did find Drysc's statement against the Blizzard art philosophy, which is also more of a "it's never going to happen" statement. But, like all good blue posts, it confirms nothing and offers a million ways to go back on it.


Everquest originally said it would be "impossible" to do.

When they added it, it basically was a color overlay layer added to existing armor. This worked ok in EQ because there weren't really that many colors in armor to begin with. However, in WoW, since things are rather out on the extremes for color, there's not much you can do.

One example would be the banana pally armor. Even with EQ's armor tinting system, you could never make it any shade hued towards Blue, because there's simply too much Yellow which you can't remove.



So while "impossible" really breaks down to "it would require a ton of work and wouldn't really be worth the time due to the technical limitations and given the fact that the people will complain about the end result anyways", it's basically the same thing.
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