MC won't DieFollow

Maybe I'm just being a stick-in-the-mud but I like to refer to Molten Core as "Molten Bore". I hope they don't put any quests in there that are required for level 70 content.

Molten Snore.

QFT.

Also, realize that it won't be a really easy thing to just grab 39 close friends to farm MC with you to get a recipe drop that will be replaced by a better one in 4 levels.

people still get +9 intellect to 2H when +22 is available.

It would depend on the cost. I mean +30 vs +40 may have a 200g price difference.

just speculating.

I dont think it will die, for people like me "casual players". We will want the recipes that are obtainable in there.

Also keep in mind, the drops in there are still better than the average green for the most part. It will be ran for DE purposes, as well as for the people who are looking for specific items.

I cant wait to hit 70 and try to run BRD/Strat/Scholo/Living Strat solo. I hope its possible! I personally know BRD will be for my hunter up to the torch room. We will see about the other locations.

Hehe.... I know a while back a pally on the beta forum reported (with screan shot) the completion of a solo 45 min baron run. I highly doubt that people are going to be running molten snore at level 70, even to gear out alts. The Tier 1 gear that drops there is infact less uber than greens at level 62-63ish. While many people would love to believe that people will go just for enchanting recipies, that's not necessairly true. The current "high end" recipies dropped in MC+ are supposed to be trainable via scrolls sold at faction specific vendors. So if you want +stealth to cloak, you simply grind up rep for whatever faction and purchase it. No one wants to do the snore, and if they don't change the way "skull" bosses scale, it'll still take a bunch of people to do said instances. I'm not sure if they changed this yet, but mobs were scaling to level 73 against level 70 tanks. People in the beta forums were talking about Patch hitting tanks for 14k+ when they were trying to run Naxx (making it impossible).

While I agree that MC is going to be less (much, much less) than it is today... I also have no doubt that at some point guilds are going to be venturing back into it. Why? Many of the same reasons that they still go back and do runs like UBRS:

- The recipes, patterns, etc. that have already been mentioned.

- People like to complete sets in this game. I have guild members that are wearing t1 and t2 that are still going to UBRS to get that elusive t0 drop from Drakk that just never seems to drop.

- They will also use them for testing purposes. For instance, how powerful are we at level 65? 68? 70? Can we 25-man it? or maybe even 15-man it? It will be intersting to see as time goes by.

- People that haven't done things like MC, BWL, AQ, Naxx... that is still new content for them that they can go and experiment with at some point, because even TBC is going to get old eventually.

Yes... most things will get sharded... but things like shards/nexus crystals, lava & fiery cores, core leather, BoE t1, etc... that's all gold in the bank (even if it's nothing compared to current prices).

That... and the fact that I also enjoy going to MC. Probably my favorite instance in the game-to-date.

I think some people will try to do MC with the fewest number of people possible just for fun. I like to do Princess runs (Maraudon) with Aedos (60 'lock) solo just for fun. I could see trying to do MC with 5 people just to see if we could do it.

the way it stands now, current raid instances will not be revamped and therefore be obsolete. nexus crystals will also be replaced with the next ones higher up. so farming them would be like farming vision dust now. not much use.

people already do mc with 20 or so people, so that number will drop even more with higher levels.

those instances will be run like lower instances are run now. you get some gear and xp while in that level range. but you don't farm them for months to gear up a whole guild, because by the time you're done (and mc/bwl not having a token system), you'll have outleveld it a lot. no-one farms zul farrak now. ok, maybe for sul thraze, but that would be like some item lover trying to get thunderfury from mc.
and as someone said, you can't just walk in, you have to do a lengthy attunement process. by the time you're done (with all the other stuff you do), you'll be level 62 and it'll be a piece of cake.

so in short, i think current raid content will be pretty left out. run it a couple of times to see it, then byebye.

Our guild has had ZG on farm for half a year, and we don't even look at the place anymore. MC, personally I agree on the bore, I've gotten bored of it and we haven't even been able to beat Rag yet! We own every boss in there if we go in as a guild, but we can't do Rag... Anyway, we have yet to do BWL and Naxx, and I for one WANT to see those! Even if we're 70 when we go back in, and the enemies can be walked over, I WANT to see those dungeons!

I know I'll be FINALLY doing a 45 min baron and eventually finish my tier 0.5 quest chain :p

And obligatory farming of the Baron to get his mount. Tauren wants a new ride.

The reason people run Stratholme, Scholomance, Dire Maul, and UBRS so often is a very simple reason. It's because they can't level.

Honestly, ask yourself, how many people do you know who ran SM over 10 times on the same character while leveling? It's going to be damn near impossible to find because eventually you're going to wind up getting so much xp that there will be better stuff to do in other dungeons.

People might do it every couple months for nostalgia value, but when it really comes down to it, as a dungeon that people run every week for months on end, MC is on its last week.

uhm, they 5-manned lol-atheb at lvl 60. but that is due to the design of the fight. i think you didn't quite understand the mechanics of it.