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#1 Jan 02 2007 at 4:59 PM Rating: Default
i already got the regular version of wow but i quit playing but im coming back but should i just get a time card or get bc i would like to just get the time card but dont wanna miss out but im getting a new charater so i shouldnt miss much what should i do
#2 Jan 02 2007 at 5:02 PM Rating: Good
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#3 Jan 02 2007 at 5:08 PM Rating: Decent
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The period is your friend. <--- see what I put at the end of my sentence there?
#4 Jan 02 2007 at 5:22 PM Rating: Good
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Wait for Burning Crusade. I tried playing sometime in late November and felt like all the progress I was making with my low-level alts was meaningless. The game feels a lot more stagnant these days - the new LFG system probably will recieve a nice boost in popularity when the expansion hits, but until then nobody is going to be raiding or doing many dungeons. Most people are PvPing this month.
#5 Jan 02 2007 at 5:46 PM Rating: Decent
is there going to be a month free when u buy BC?
#6 Jan 02 2007 at 5:57 PM Rating: Decent
You should definitely go with the BC. Why would you buy just the regular and not get the expansion? You've played so you know you like the gameplay so I would think eventually you'd regret not buying the expansion.

As for the free month, No-one knows and I've not seen anything written as of yet so I'd imagine that's a wait and see type of situation.
#7 Jan 02 2007 at 6:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Edited, Jan 2nd 2007 9:21pm by SDWarrior
#8 Jan 02 2007 at 7:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Wait for Burning Crusade. I tried playing sometime in late November and felt like all the progress I was making with my low-level alts was meaningless. The game feels a lot more stagnant these days - the new LFG system probably will recieve a nice boost in popularity when the expansion hits, but until then nobody is going to be raiding or doing many dungeons. Most people are PvPing this month.


I'm to the point where I deleted all my lower characters and only have my 60 Warlock & 50 Paladin now. I feel it's better to have two very well developed characters, than a lot of alts that barely make it to 60 or get there and don't get geared.

Plus, with the expansion coming out, it's going to be "All about the 70s."
#9 Jan 02 2007 at 10:00 PM Rating: Default
If you don't want to explore the new content, races, or tradeskills, and are satisfied with the level 60 cao, The regular version will do. Otherwise, get BC.
#10 Jan 03 2007 at 9:27 AM Rating: Decent
BC. Cant wait to use the new characters.
#11 Jan 03 2007 at 10:24 AM Rating: Good
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SDWarrior wrote:
As for the free month, No-one knows and I've not seen anything written as of yet so I'd imagine that's a wait and see type of situation.


I HIGHLY doubt that they will give a free month. Well, unless they had a combo pack with the base game and bc and you started a new account. With the way blizzard hands out free days I wouldn't really be that surprised if they do, but at the same time I DOUBT they will. Buying TBC just gets you access to the expansion content, you still have to pay a monthly fee for the game, and no other MMO I know of gives you a free month when you buy the expansion.
#12 Jan 03 2007 at 11:02 AM Rating: Decent
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If you ... are satisfied with the level 60 cao, The regular version will do. Otherwise, get BC.


Sorry... slight detour from the OP's question... I've actually been wondering about this (mainly because I dont expect to have TBC in my hot little hands until ~ 2wks after release)... Do we know for a fact that levelling above 60 will require installation of the Xpac?

This is only my 2nd MMO and expansion (FFXI: CoP being the first), which certainly doesnt qualify me as an expert on how this all works... but I recall, with that expansion, a bit of new content being accessable to all players (Bibiki Bay, Moblin Areas maybe?) even though the bulk of the new quests and areas were available only to those with the xpac (and for the most part, only then after they'd completed some pretty heinous quests to gain access).

It makes sense that, while certain aspects of TBC will require the xpac to access, there will be a fair amount of material available to everyone (We've already seen Jewelcrafting Recipes and, unless I'm mistaken, some socketted items. Silvermoon and Exodar Rep are already in the game, etc). I'm assuming that everyone will be able to visit the new starter areas right away (though not roll new Draenei/Blood Elf Toons without the expansion), start training as Jewelcrafters, and perhaps begin levelling their characters who've been marooned at 60 for however long, even if only for a few levels on existing mobs.

Has Bliz stated explicitly what new content will or will not open up to the many players who have to wait for TBC come 1/16/07?
#13 Jan 03 2007 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Has this been stated for a fact somewhere that if you do not get the expansion then you are stuck at lvl 60 cap?

There is no way it's going to work this way, this is the same as the talents and similar gameplay. No you won't have access to the new lands and professions (possibly) but you will still be able to level to 70 regardless.

Edited, Jan 3rd 2007 2:03pm by Ottilio
#14 Jan 03 2007 at 11:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Perhaps, but getting to 70 without going to the new areas would be very difficult. It's probably not that important, really, but an interesting point.
#15 Jan 03 2007 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
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soobooboo wrote:
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If you ... are satisfied with the level 60 cao, The regular version will do. Otherwise, get BC.


Sorry... slight detour from the OP's question... I've actually been wondering about this (mainly because I dont expect to have TBC in my hot little hands until ~ 2wks after release)... Do we know for a fact that levelling above 60 will require installation of the Xpac?


Others MMOs do this, like in EQ2 if you didn't get the expansion your cap stayed at whatever level that expansion was. You just wouldn't earn exp. Also, you wont exactly be able to level that high w/o going into outlands even if you could. About the highest level mobs that wander around the world are 60 for non elites and 62 for elites. So, you wont be able to fain that much exp.

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This is only my 2nd MMO and expansion (FFXI: CoP being the first), which certainly doesnt qualify me as an expert on how this all works... but I recall, with that expansion, a bit of new content being accessable to all players (Bibiki Bay, Moblin Areas maybe?) even though the bulk of the new quests and areas were available only to those with the xpac (and for the most part, only then after they'd completed some pretty heinous quests to gain access).


Ummm, no it didn't work like that sorry. To get to Bibiki Bay, Old/New Mov (Moblin), Attohwa (or however you spell it) Chasm, ect you DID have to have the expansion installed and registered. You could see the zone lines and which area controlled it, but try to pass said zone line and you get turned back saying you need the expansion.

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It makes sense that, while certain aspects of TBC will require the xpac to access, there will be a fair amount of material available to everyone (We've already seen Jewelcrafting Recipes and, unless I'm mistaken, some socketted items. Silvermoon and Exodar Rep are already in the game, etc).


See, the thing is everyone has to have the data files for those things on their comp so they don't crash if they see it on someone. So, it isn't so much about it being available to everyone but that they have to be able to see it in case it drops or anything... otherwise their client will flip out.

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I'm assuming that everyone will be able to visit the new starter areas right away (though not roll new Draenei/Blood Elf Toons without the expansion), start training as Jewelcrafters, and perhaps begin levelling their characters who've been marooned at 60 for however long, even if only for a few levels on existing mobs.

Has Bliz stated explicitly what new content will or will not open up to the many players who have to wait for TBC come 1/16/07?


Considering how you get to the new towns (boat or teleporter) and what I said about FFXI's expansion (which holds true for the other games too) I HIGHLY doubt that. That just isn't the way expansion works, sorry. You'll just be turned back/away most likely. You NEED the expansion to access expansion content/areas. Always have in the past, always will in the future. I highly doubt that blizzard will change that.
#16 Jan 03 2007 at 12:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Ummm, no it didn't work like that sorry. To get to Bibiki Bay, Old/New Mov (Moblin), Attohwa (or however you spell it) Chasm, ect you DID have to have the expansion installed and registered. You could see the zone lines and which area controlled it, but try to pass said zone line and you get turned back saying you need the expansion.


My mistake. Its been a while. I'd gone back to check my facts, but apparently read something incorrectly.

At any rate... whether or not its likely to happen, I hope I dont have to wait for the cap to go up and/or to resume gaining rested state. I'm not in any great hurry to begin chugging away toward 70, but I'd like to get a nice big chunk of 60->61 done turning in quests I've already completed... And I'd like to go snoop around Exodar/Silvermoon City while I wait for my copy. Theyre sure to have some interesting quests that will take us back into existing lands and dungeons.
#17 Jan 03 2007 at 12:47 PM Rating: Good
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soobooboo wrote:
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Ummm, no it didn't work like that sorry. To get to Bibiki Bay, Old/New Mov (Moblin), Attohwa (or however you spell it) Chasm, ect you DID have to have the expansion installed and registered. You could see the zone lines and which area controlled it, but try to pass said zone line and you get turned back saying you need the expansion.


My mistake. Its been a while. I'd gone back to check my facts, but apparently read something incorrectly.

At any rate... whether or not its likely to happen, I hope I dont have to wait for the cap to go up and/or to resume gaining rested state. I'm not in any great hurry to begin chugging away toward 70, but I'd like to get a nice big chunk of 60->61 done turning in quests I've already completed... And I'd like to go snoop around Exodar/Silvermoon City while I wait for my copy. Theyre sure to have some interesting quests that will take us back into existing lands and dungeons.


Again though, the bolded part is not likely to happen w/o the expansion. You get to the new cities through a teleport and a boat. Chances are you wont be able to use the teleport w/o expansion and the boat will turn you back or something when you take it. You may or may not be able to gain exp/rested exp w/o the expansion installed, but if i'm willing to bet money that you can't get into the new cities w/o the expansion. I'd say maybe a 20% chance you can w/o the expansion. You have to remember that the data alone for the new cities and areas around it are going to be HUGE. Putting that into a patch for everyone to download just isn't fiasable. I wouldn't be surpirsed at all if just the cities used like 200+ megs of space EACH, and each zonea couple hundred also.. and that is just me making a very rough guess based on the size of the BASE game. So, besides the rest of the data for the normal areas (which probably is mostly in atm) you're looking at probably close to a gig patch to download.
#18 Jan 03 2007 at 1:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Again though, the bolded part is not likely to happen w/o the expansion...


Fair points, all. In such an event I'll have to be content to sit on my hands and farm/work on Alts/resist the temptation to come here for spoiler posts. Meh.

Bringing this back to the OP... assuming Tomec is correct, I'd say BC is pretty much a must have. Assuming you decide to stick with it this time, you dont want to be stuck at 60 when the rest of the population is concentrating on 70 content.
#19 Jan 03 2007 at 1:46 PM Rating: Decent
I imagine the ports will be inoperable to you if you don't have the expansion and the boats will likely work as they do now. At the moment you can get on the boats to the new areas but once you leave you're ported back to shore.

Really all of this is just pure speculation until the release date though I would think it would be a bad decision on their part if they allowed someone to level beyond 60 without purchasing the expansion. You could really only go so far until the mobs available in the pre-expansion areas are too low to yield any meaningful experience.
#20 Jan 03 2007 at 6:07 PM Rating: Decent
Ottilio wrote:
Has this been stated for a fact somewhere that if you do not get the expansion then you are stuck at lvl 60 cap?

There is no way it's going to work this way, this is the same as the talents and similar gameplay. No you won't have access to the new lands and professions (possibly) but you will still be able to level to 70 regardless.

Not so. Blizz has stated many times in various interviews that 60 is is for the standard WoW. Progression beyond 60 will require TBC.
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