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#1 Dec 20 2006 at 8:15 PM Rating: Decent
Well I have come to this site several times for assistance and you guys have been great so im calling on you again. My parents have put this program on that turns off the internet at a specific time, namely 11:00, while my guild raids. I would like to be rid of this nuisance and i would like to know if any one has any solutions.
#2 Dec 20 2006 at 8:20 PM Rating: Decent
Well, you could ask your parents to change the settings.

Other than that - there's lots of things we'd need to know. The name of the program for one. And how you're connected to the internet too. It may not be your PC, it may be the router.
#3 Dec 20 2006 at 8:30 PM Rating: Good
Hmm, we have had this exact topic of parental control before. Somebody is going to tell you, so let me get it out of the way. Any computer program installed on the pc (including viruses, etc) can be eliminated by a combination of completely nuking the harddrive and reloading it as well as laying down a new boot sector. That however, is not the only way to restrict internet access. They could do it at the router. They could power off the router or hub on a timer, or if you fight them on it, they could simply cancel the internet all together. Also, if you don't know what you are doing, you could make your computer unbootable. This is a state your parents might decide to leave it in once you have nuked it.

Let me suggest to you that you are still living at home, and life will be more pleasant if you meet them half way on this. They haven't said you can't play, they are just trying to be sure you attend to the other things in life besides wow. Not raiding wont kill you. You can pvp for rewards, and if you get the expansion, there are going to be great dungeon rewards that don't require a 5 hour raid. If your guild requires you to raid, then join a more casual guild. There is plenty of time in your life for raiding (I figure you have around 35 years of playtime left more than me, lol).
#4 Dec 20 2006 at 9:05 PM Rating: Decent
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He's right, rate up, I agree.

Honestly, your best off not fighting your parents on this one.
Most parents just make you quit all together.

No need to answer these next few questions here for us, Its none of our business:
1) Does your parents pay for your WoW subscription?
2) Did they pay for your computer?

If either of these questions are a yes, It would be good advice to let it go and listen to them.

If the parents have gone far enough to stop you at bed time, then chances are if you break the rules your gonna lose it all together, and parents are generally smarter than what you think.

Imagine sitting there grounded stairing at where you computer once sat.
Thats real punishment.
Sorry :(
#5 Dec 20 2006 at 9:24 PM Rating: Decent
Ssindryl wrote:
My parents have put this program on that turns off the internet at a specific time, namely 11:00, while my guild raids.

Quit the guild and join one that raids at a more convenient time. Don't go against your parent's wishes - that just brings bad news and worse karma.

Edited, Dec 20th 2006 6:29pm by ohmikeghod
#6 Dec 20 2006 at 11:37 PM Rating: Decent
Ssindryl wrote:
Well I have come to this site several times for assistance and you guys have been great so im calling on you again. My parents have put this program on that turns off the internet at a specific time, namely 11:00, while my guild raids.


so you are not an adult i take it and you are staying up to late i take it. raids normally last more then 2 hours so that would put you up until at least 1am, if not as late as 3 or 4 am...
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I would like to be rid of this nuisance and i would like to know if any one has any solutions.


yup there are PLENTY of ways to remove it, but if you are not tech savoy enough to know how, i am not going to tell you how to break the rules your parents have set. until you move out of the house and are 18+ years old and paying 100% of your bills on your own, you really should do as your parents say and either talk with them about this, or just learn to deal with it.

it is after all their house and their rules, not to mention their MONEY that pays for things in their house including your account if you are under 18.
#8 Dec 21 2006 at 12:52 AM Rating: Decent
Geez. When I was living at home and I was under 19, I was going to bed at 10 o'clock on my own...11 if there was a good movie on.

My, times sure have changed.
#9 Dec 21 2006 at 6:51 AM Rating: Decent
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I hate to keep beating the same drum, but you should haggle with your parents on this one. If you go around their measures, they are going to respond with another method to limit your internet access. If you find a way around the new method, this will only escalate the issue until no one is happy (e.g. you have no computer) and everyone thinks everyone else is being entirely unreasonable (e.g. "why is our child so unreasonable").

Does the internet shut off at 11 every night? Try asking for extra time on non-school nights. If necessary, offer shutting the internet off an hour earlier on school nights in exchange.

The bottom line is that your parents (likely) believe this is good for you. Try to see their point of view (probably something like you are too tired for school and/or don't do any homework), then use it to get the best deal possible that gives them some reassurance, but also gives you some of what you want (e.g. you don't have WoW to keep you up late on school nights, and you get to raid, even if only on non-school nights). This will lead to a much happier ending for all than a path of escalation.

Edited, Dec 21st 2006 12:57pm by garfunkel
#10 Dec 21 2006 at 7:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Ssindryl wrote:
Well I have come to this site several times for assistance and you guys have been great so im calling on you again. My parents have put this program on that turns off the internet at a specific time, namely 11:00, while my guild raids. I would like to be rid of this nuisance and i would like to know if any one has any solutions.


Not to sound to assholish but may we ask your age ? If your still going to school (Middle/High school) then I would talk to your parents about this and see WHY they put the program on the computer. Parents tend to put the well being of their children before a video game and I bet they have a reason for doing this, you may not agree with it but that is the way. It sucks and I hate to say it but that is how it goes at times.
#11 Dec 21 2006 at 3:32 PM Rating: Decent
Yea i expected this kind of response no problem. The thing is that they dont want me staying up late for some reson even tho generally i read till about 12:00 any way. I know they did it intentionally btw. As to the quitting the guild thing i enjoy it too much. Besides being a rogue kind of limits my options. But generally it runs into about the last hour of raiding. Well if anyone wants to help corrupt a child/young adult, help me!
#12 Dec 21 2006 at 3:53 PM Rating: Decent
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The question is then... what are you going to do when they find out you've bypassed whatever they've done and cancel your internet access entirely? Seems like you're starting a fight that you probably can't win while living in their house.
#13 Dec 21 2006 at 5:00 PM Rating: Decent
I dobut they'll notice they're not very observent.
#14 Dec 21 2006 at 5:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Reading = good..unless its some kind of dirty material then thats questionable. I doubt anyone here will help you in this matter, your best bet? google it, good luck not d/l any virus and or spyware that may destroy your computer.
#15 Dec 21 2006 at 6:11 PM Rating: Decent
Ssindryl wrote:
Yea i expected this kind of response no problem. The thing is that they dont want me staying up late for some reson even tho generally i read till about 12:00 any way. I know they did it intentionally btw. As to the quitting the guild thing i enjoy it too much. Besides being a rogue kind of limits my options. But generally it runs into about the last hour of raiding. Well if anyone wants to help corrupt a child/young adult, help me!


bottom line is, they are doing this for a reason. you are to young to stay up late. do not go behind their back as has been stated again and again and again in this thread... if you do and WHEN, not if, they find out you will be fubar.

so deal with it or talk with them its that simple.

or as stated above you can pay for everything, your computer, your rent, your utilities, your food, your insurance, your car/transportation, your education, your internet, your wow account, etc... in all no less then $1500.00 per month +- $1000 depending on your area and standard cost of living in said area.
#16 Dec 21 2006 at 11:55 PM Rating: Decent
Ssindryl wrote:
I dobut they'll notice they're not very observent.

You'd be surprised. The first time thay catch you on the computer after hours is going to be the time when the dung hits the air circulation device. You'll be lucky to have computer access at all, except under close supervision. You should note that they are already observant enough to know that you've already been on the computer after you should have been asleep.

I still say that you should join a guild that raids at a time more convenient to you. You might consider transfering your character to a realm in an earlier time zone. I realize that you like and enjoy your guild, but if it becomes a choice between them and your parents, choose your parents. Your guildies can't make your life a living hell from miles away and on another server.

Edited, Dec 21st 2006 9:03pm by ohmikeghod
#17 Dec 22 2006 at 9:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Ssindryl wrote:
I dobut they'll notice they're not very observent.


They were observent enough to catch you the first time. Your parents seem more then able to findout if you remove that program, your computer days may be over.

Go talk to your Parents.
#18 Dec 22 2006 at 10:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Have you tried asking your guild if they would move the raiding time? I realize it is not always feasable to move the time for one member, but they may be willing to change in order to have you come along.

If you asked, and the guild said no, then did you try to find another guild that raids eariler? I know you said you enjoy the people in your current guild, but just because you join a new guild does not mean you could no longer interact with your old guildies. You could always start a chat channel to be able to talk with them while you are in the other guild...


If you try every other alternative and are still unable to find a good raiding time, then try talking to your parents. Their main concern is that you grow up to be a good person, so if you are able to sit down with them and communicate your wishes in a mature manner, they might be willing to compromise.

First, explain explain that you understand why they have put restricitions on your playing time. Then explain what it is you want to do, why you want to do it, and why you should be given the extra responsibility.

I would suggest starting off small. Maybe ask for one night of either an increased playtime or unlimited playtime. In exchange, you could offer to either take on extra chores around the house or to not play WoW one night a week, and instead use that time to spend with your family.

If they agree to give that a try, then you just need to make sure you keep your grades up (and whatever esle they expect you to do). After a few months, you can try to renagotiate for more time, since you would have let them know you were responsible enough to have that extra time. If you ***** up though....
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