Most overpowerd characters since 2.0Follow

How many ways were you expecting? Did you expect every class to be opened up the same way?

Warlocks are powerful but not overpowered.

Hunters have really increased damage now but it's because they just changed the whole combat system without giving any resilience to current gears.

Warriors are crying but I did see a buff at their damage output. Maybe that's because of easy epics now, I'm not sure.

Rogues.. Well.. It has been a long time since I stopped playing with rogue but no matter how they change their talents rogue is a player dependent class. They're either terrible or good in pvp.

Priests are the same. Gimped at healing at the moment in PvE due to split trees, same in pvp as holy and shadow with increased survivability for Disc which I'm very fond of.

Shamans... Now this is an interesting point because I began to see more Resto shamans in battlegrounds. Either way they're same old shammies. I didn't see big buff on them.

Paladins got nifty talents and spells so I'm happy for them. Overpowered? No.

Mages are same old as well, either dealing so so damage or critting huge amounts (I don't like trinket mages...). And giving a mage scatter shot is just evil (dragon's breath or whatever that tier 9 fire talent is).



To summarize it all, I've seen all classes whine before and after the patch release. And that's called balance.

Uhh what can I say? First off in your sig it says your lvl 30 meaning if you are spec'd ret you still dont have CS. Druids and hunters are a pallys enemy. If your blacksmith, you get the trinket for 30second immunity to fear = Locks turn out dead and even without a trinket you can bind something to auto-cleanse you. Shammys are e-z now, especially the DW shammys that even a pally can dodge. Priests arent hard, just keep the 12 second stun going. Mages can cause a problem from blink, but thats about it, cleanse the FN and frost armor effect and they go down easy.

Edited, Dec 20th 2006 5:48pm by Vescosity

Edited, Dec 20th 2006 5:47pm by Vescosity

Yep it's true, every warlock in the game learned how to play their class right as patch 2.0 came out, and all the warriors forgot how and now fail at everything. Tank labor anyone?

Man, some of you guys are extremely deluded. Makes me want to roll Horde, seeing as the silly ideas here really do translate to many PvP Alliance peeps.

I'm a rogue. I've always been a rogue, and I completely adore the rogue class. There is not one class that I have not killed semi-consistently, nor is there any class that has not handed me my *** more than once. This is because, as much as you want to ***** about min-maxing specialized builds kicking your *** doing the only thing they are meant to do (3 Minute Mages, anyone?) people have to understand that Battlegrounds is a helluva lot more involved than "Omg I have 30 hks but that geared warlock is killing me nerf lock!"

For example, I'm a rogue. Sure, I can sneak up on people and stunlock them while the rest of my party goes happy killstuff on it, but that would be extremely detrimental not only to my health, but to our chances of our winning. You see, as a rogue, I stay back, and let the battle take place. You see that awesome mage about to crit his 2.5k fireball? Or that warlock laying nasty dots on everyone? How about the shaman healing his mt buddy? That's who I go for. And if I get the jump on them, after 4-5 wound poison charges, mind numbing, kick, stuns, etc, chances are, they're going down, even if someone tries to kill me first. Highest single target DPS, remember?

Alternatively, if I'm happily killing off some healers while emoting Cheer, and some warlock catches me unawares, he's going to own my face. DoTs and fears and that weird electric ray thingie that makes you walk slow (Never played a 'lock :D) and all that fun stuff are at his disposal. He'll have me dead without losing much more than a tiny chunk of MP.

So what did we learn here?

Every class (And I mean every class, though I really dont feel like going through each of them individually... -_-) has the tools to completely destroy another class. Just like irl, surprise is one of the biggest edges you can possibly have in a fight. Yes, it's possible for said healer or mage to whip my *** after I catch him unawares. Yes, it's possible for me to make a glorius comeback against fearboy and hand him his *** in a warlock-y platter. But the main point is that in a one on one confrontation, he who gets the jump will have the upper hand. Being the victor is a matter of skill and some luck.

And we all know this, and that's groovy, and it'll probably be good advice for arena.

However...

Battlegrounds is not arena. Battlegrounds is not dueling. Like someone stated earlier, having ANYONE with you is the biggest advantage you can have. People need to stop looking at their classes as be all end all kill everything I-win-at-HKs and realize that the point of PvPing is not to kill, but to overwhelm. If you can cause a BG opposing team to panic, you've won the BG. Stop thinking about yourself as an individual and rather be a part of a team. That 3 minute mage isn't going to be able to do much against a rogue and a warlock. That omgoverpowered warlock isn't going to mean ******** against a hunter and a mage. That hunter is going to get his *** handed to him by a warrior and a bubblealin. The point of BG is teamwork, and though DAMAGE may be the first thing on alot of people's minds, UTILITY far surpasses it, and there is not one class in this goddamn game that isn't useful. If you think so, well, reroll Tauren Rogue :)

I don't agree,

I do agree that I tend to be ganked by Locks more often then any other class. I am an Orc Warrior btw (36 Arms/6 Fury so far). In battlegrounds I am almost always at the top. I gank anything, especially pally's. I find them to be the easiest to gank, because MS them and their healing effects drops by 50%, I use potions and when he's running away to heal.. I use first Aid... I outlast them easilly.

Doesn't take many hits to kill them either. Not sure why people say Warriors suck against pally's... maybe they can't play their warriors right. For Mages, I just cahrge, hamstring them, rend and MS, usually over in seconds. Shadow Priests are tough, if you don't get the drop on them, easiest thing once more is to hamstring and rend.. because they will shield themselves and rend continues to do dmg during that time... MS is also VERY important.. combo needs to be succesfully done, so by the time he/she shields.. MS is already applied and healing is minimal.

Hunters are a pain, they slow you down and keep you at bay quite easilly. Again.. important to hamstring them. If you do that.. Hunter is dead in no time.

Tactics are easy.. you won't win them all.. but it's all about hamstring for casters, and outlasting for melee.. if you can master these with good use of MS on healing classes... you'll win most of the time as a Warrior. BTW, I don't even have uber elite gear..:) Only one Epic (Kang the Decapitator) lvl 51.

I hate Warlocks so much. I mean, it seems like there dots have become much more powerful. It used to be that I would only lose around half my health after they use all their dots. Now I lose almost all my health, and all it takes is pressing 2 buttons, no casting time or anything.

yes, i play a BM hunter. people who say i'm overpowered, in a one on one fight, even some one on two, depending on class, yeah, i'm going to pwn your face most of the time. every 2 minutes, i'm immune to fear, slows, polymorph, etc for 18 seconds. oh, and my pet is too, and he has +50% damage. so you're probably going to die, and so is the rogue who stepped in my freeze trap i dropped in combat.

and then once my cooldowns are gone, i have virtually no utility at melee besides a 6 sec CD attack, a pet that about half the classes can fear or sleep or some other type of CC, and a fast ranged attack that doesn't hit for much. for everyone who hates us hunters, here's the trick that has existed since the beginning of WoW- get in melee and slow us for warriors/rogues/shammies, or root us/frost nova us/fear us for casters. then stand in my deadzone and nuke away. pallies, im alliance, so no real bg experience there, but in duels if i can get you at kite range, you're basically gone. sorry. turn around and go the other way? use that stun on my pet not me, and then run?

yes, i've seen the marksman hunters throw up the 3k aimed shots, but to be honest i don't even have aimed shot right now. if i did, it would hit for maybe 900, crit for a couple thousand, because my bm build has nothing to do with my own ranged damage, but with my pet.

like someone posted before, it's all about teamwork. if i see a group of three people heading my way, i run. i can freeze one, send a pet on a second, but that third is coming right for me.

again, as has been said many times before, it's not the class. it's somewhat the spec, but even that just changes your tactics. it's each player, and learning which ones are good and which ones bought their account the other day. i have destroyed every class in bg's, and have in turn been destroyed by every class. if you're having trouble with a certain class, it's not the class, it's you and your tactics. ask others for ideas, because given the element of surprise, any properly specced person can kill anyone else, regardless of class.

That was a great post Kiro. Dueling really does help you in PvP. It can teach you about your class, and how your abilities stack up against other classes. While dueling does differ from PvP it can give you a good feel about your abilities limitations and significance.

i feel paladin is the most dominate class, in pvp reasons i feel this way. i hit as hard as a warrior(harder even) i get Seal of command its basicaly a random swing but procs alot if using a weapon 3.50 speed and higher. so say you swing at 200 on wars thats 400 dmg on one swing. i can stun you flimsy locks for 6secs hit you blast you with judgement of command for 200dmg and then swing again before your unstuned, so i usaly get 3 swings and a judgement before the lock has chance to fear me with my hp higher then normal i can blessing of pursuit to catch up to them and finsh them off. mages are anoying as hell but easyer then locks, i find the hardest class to beat for my paladin would be shamans because purge is a bummer. on my SoC but easly beatable. oh and dont forget my 2 bubbles and if i need to i can use seal of justice as another timeout for 2 more heals. if people werent afaird of paladins they wouldnt say no heals or bubbles before they duel you. but hey if i asked any class to not use all of there abiltys it wouldnt even be a challange.


i wish we could duel accros servers.
anyways my name is blame on anvilmar anyone wanna duel me to shutme i invite all challanges. 39 pally ^^ fear me and the bubble!
P.S im a proud paladin

Maybe end game changes but as of now it seems paladins own all ( at 39 ) yes i dueled preists and warlocks and hunters, they all seem keen on there kiting us tricks but that is easyly avoided, as for warlocks melting faces what the heck does that mean? there dot spells are pretty weak, 50 dmg ><; i have over 2k health, oh and i can cure myself so really takes me with mp and health total hp would be around 6k 6k health they have to slowly drain me, mean while I can hitem for 600 a swing. and bubble drops all ther fear and dot spells so when i get in closs I can bubble health blessing / seal and im good to go. rogues are annoying too, these are all from my experiances. keep in mind im only 39 and havnt got a char at 60. so your welcome to keep on thinking pallys blow and all that but when your in a bg spike damage kills everything. i havnt fought one horde/ ally longer then 1min. so in one min how much dmg could that pesky rogue hitting me for 10-30 criting me 100 tops and lock hurting me for 50 dmg do? add in my heals i dont think they will outlast me, and when i bubble and i see people doing frist aid i get a kick out of concercation interutping there healing. but hey if you wanna belive your end game experiance even means anything at 39 by all means think that. and if you wanna challange me get a 39 toon and beat me, I have yet to be crited for more then 300 by any class expect mages, mages hurt me alot.

Blame
Anvilmar
i enjoy how you most of you who are 60 seem to think that the level 60 class's are the same at lower levels. at level 10 i couldnt beat a lock >< at level 19 i could no problem.