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why are the undead horde and night elf allaince?Follow
i dont realy get it in warcraft3 and so the undead were always fighting both horde and allaince and the night elfs were realy on no ones side because they never realy help any other race so y cant they be there own kind of side like the undead had a island on top and allaince on bottem because if you think about it its kinda true....but no offense undead
Theres two types of Undead, Scourge and Forsaken. In WC3 the only playable Undead were Scourge, Scourge are pure evil. Forsaken are not so evil, there only part of the Horde due to conveince. I dont know why Nelfs are on the Alliance though.
The N-elves were technically always part of the alliance, I believe. But, they were the help from a far, sending in sparse warriors and some financial aid.
When their lands were entered without permission, they got a little pissed. :P
Plus, the Night Elves hate Trolls with a passion, and they still have resentment towards the Orcs for killing Cenarious.
So >>>>> Alliance.
The Undead were shunned by the Alliance races, being the "forsaken" alliance members themselves. :P
The Horde, which was more primitive, could accept them where the alliance couldn't.
Not only that, the Forsaken were going to have to war with the prejudiced Alliance. They did not have any reason to fight the Horde. Neither wanted another enemy so, they joined the Horde.
(Blizzard may have been looking to the future with that as well, planning Blood Elves for a future Horde race. Sylvanus Windrunner will be on close terms with their officials already, so I am assuming that they may have good rep with eachother.
If Undead had a level bonus in rep to Blood Elves, it would balance them as well.)
When their lands were entered without permission, they got a little pissed. :P
Plus, the Night Elves hate Trolls with a passion, and they still have resentment towards the Orcs for killing Cenarious.
So >>>>> Alliance.
The Undead were shunned by the Alliance races, being the "forsaken" alliance members themselves. :P
The Horde, which was more primitive, could accept them where the alliance couldn't.
Not only that, the Forsaken were going to have to war with the prejudiced Alliance. They did not have any reason to fight the Horde. Neither wanted another enemy so, they joined the Horde.
(Blizzard may have been looking to the future with that as well, planning Blood Elves for a future Horde race. Sylvanus Windrunner will be on close terms with their officials already, so I am assuming that they may have good rep with eachother.
If Undead had a level bonus in rep to Blood Elves, it would balance them as well.)
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The night elves weren't originally part of the Alliance. When they encountered the humans, the humans were allied with the orcs due to convenience wasn't for a while before they threw their lot with the Alliance.
The alliance hate the forsaken also because in the expansion the forsaken betrayed them and killed their leader garithos.
The alliance hate the forsaken also because in the expansion the forsaken betrayed them and killed their leader garithos.
Because thats how it is.
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Read the warcraft lore and you'll know.
The night elves first were only allied with the creatures of the forest(furbolgs cenarious and them yaddayadda). Then the orcs came to kalimdor seeking a new homeland. they met the tauren in the desert and they slow moved in land. when they reached the forest they began to cut down large parts of the forest to fuel their new settlements, thus pissing off the NEs and their furry forest friends. so they fought it out(cenarious diein somewhere in there)...ill get back to them in a sec.
Meanwhile at about the same time period the scoure were moving across from the eastern kingdoms too. They came in and cut down forests and plagued the furbolgs and such causing them to become insane, thus pissing off the NEs and what was left of the furry forest friends. More on them in a sec.
Now for the humans. im pretty sure they came over to pursue the orcs. well eventually the orcs, humans and night elves meet and decided to ally themselves together to save the world tree thing and preserve the world. The alliance between them soon faded and the orcs and humans pissed each other off again and muchos killing insued.
Now as for the names horde and alliance. The horde is what the orcs callled themselves, all the orcish tribes. so really all the other races joined the orcs happy little band, mostly out of desperation. The forsaken joined mostly because they wanted someone to help them carry out their plans to fight off the scourge or the "mindless undead led by a cool glowing guy who is led by a bunch of demons called dreadlords who are led by another demon who is led by some giant demon big cheese-type fellow". whew...
Now the alliance is what humans called the pact between themselves and the dwarves. the night elves for some reason decided to ally with them. gnomes just popped out of the ground somewhere, not really sure about them. I think they came from a bad strain of the flu virus that infected many pregnant female humans and the children were born with stunted growth. over time these "midgets" came together and formed a community together and discovered they had an immense love for blowing things up. This is just my opinion on gnomes.
Hope you enjoyed some of that.
Meanwhile at about the same time period the scoure were moving across from the eastern kingdoms too. They came in and cut down forests and plagued the furbolgs and such causing them to become insane, thus pissing off the NEs and what was left of the furry forest friends. More on them in a sec.
Now for the humans. im pretty sure they came over to pursue the orcs. well eventually the orcs, humans and night elves meet and decided to ally themselves together to save the world tree thing and preserve the world. The alliance between them soon faded and the orcs and humans pissed each other off again and muchos killing insued.
Now as for the names horde and alliance. The horde is what the orcs callled themselves, all the orcish tribes. so really all the other races joined the orcs happy little band, mostly out of desperation. The forsaken joined mostly because they wanted someone to help them carry out their plans to fight off the scourge or the "mindless undead led by a cool glowing guy who is led by a bunch of demons called dreadlords who are led by another demon who is led by some giant demon big cheese-type fellow". whew...
Now the alliance is what humans called the pact between themselves and the dwarves. the night elves for some reason decided to ally with them. gnomes just popped out of the ground somewhere, not really sure about them. I think they came from a bad strain of the flu virus that infected many pregnant female humans and the children were born with stunted growth. over time these "midgets" came together and formed a community together and discovered they had an immense love for blowing things up. This is just my opinion on gnomes.
Hope you enjoyed some of that.
IIIIII think that THIS should happen. In the upcoming expansion, a THIRD faction comes, which is the Burning crusade. The Forsaken are re-captured and turned into the Scourge, taking them away from the Horde. The Night Elves, tired of the Alliance's desecration of Azeroth (the techknowlodgy) join the Horde for their more naturey ways. The Blood Elves, since they absolutely despise the Night Elves (I think, I know almost nothing about Lore), join the Alliance because the Alliance lets them in knowing their skills with Magic, and that they already lost a powerful ally (the Night Elves). Then, when more and more Burning Crusaders come, the Alliance and the Horde join up together to take down the enemies.
And that's how the next few years of World of LOREcraft will go out. XD
And that's how the next few years of World of LOREcraft will go out. XD
well the other fraction part sems kool if bilzzard would make something up saying something like the horde betrayed the undead and the new side would be Forsaken and if they put the naga in WoW they could be put in there as well to other race like when ur dude gets lvl 10 they do a quest makeing them officly "Horde"(dont know for the alaince) and if they could do the same thing for the Forsaken u could do a quest that puts u on there side and same for the allaince it could be the fraction of few ppl who hate horde and allaince and as far as the guilds and friend list they could have a little box by there name and same Hated or something and if u do so the to could fight and if not they could do like they used to but the burning legion would be a kool fraction to i guss the leader ould be demons another race would be the red orcs (found in warcraft craft 3) naga and blood elfs (if i rember right) and so on but eather way i would like a new fraction tat could be neutrul with both allaince and horde unless otherwise
anyone who knows Warcraft lore, knows that Blizz screwed the pooch with WoW. seriously, they really effed he lore in the A with this game.
i just think both undead and NE are over-rater (60% of my server is NE on ally, and 70% are UD oh horde last time i took census)
so who care about what faction they are on, because if they were both on the same fation, the other races would wither and die
so who care about what faction they are on, because if they were both on the same fation, the other races would wither and die
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gnomes just popped out of the ground somewhere..
lol
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if you want to know go to IF in the expolers leage theres a book about it read it
Sorry.. but.
Gah, my brain. Periods, for the love of god man! Add some periods! Try saying that without pause.
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well the other fraction part sems kool if bilzzard would make something up saying something like the horde betrayed the undead and the new side would be Forsaken and if they put the naga in WoW they could be put in there as well to other race like when ur dude gets lvl 10 they do a quest makeing them officly "Horde"(dont know for the alaince) and if they could do the same thing for the Forsaken u could do a quest that puts u on there side and same for the allaince it could be the fraction of few ppl who hate horde and allaince and as far as the guilds and friend list they could have a little box by there name and same Hated or something and if u do so the to could fight and if not they could do like they used to but the burning legion would be a kool fraction to i guss the leader ould be demons another race would be the red orcs (found in warcraft craft 3) naga and blood elfs (if i rember right) and so on but eather way i would like a new fraction tat could be neutrul with both allaince and horde unless otherwise
Gah, my brain. Periods, for the love of god man! Add some periods! Try saying that without pause.
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If anyone cared to play Wc3 and finish the campaign they would know...but here it is briefly
Thrall the Warchief entered Kalimdor to try and help his friend Grom Hellscream from the Demonic possession that him and the orcs had once been put upon them. At the same time, the Humans were here to explore the new land that had been discovered...led by Jaina Proudmoore (A former friend of Arthas - The leader of the Scourge)
During this time, the Nelfs, Humans and orcs formed an alliance at the base of Mount Hyjal to stop the Scourge and the Demonic Legion from destroying the "earth" by protecting the Great tree. Archimonde the Demon was defeated a long with numerous other Demonic leaders.
However, soon the truce broke, after Jainas Father (Admiral Proudmoore) sent troops to Kalimdor to try and execute Thrall.
Illidan - Cenarius's brother, tried to take the throne of the Lich king, and with his Naga allies, fought with the scourge, as the nelf race was pwoerless to do anything. Whoever they helped, would come out stronger than anyone and claim the throne as dominant race, so the Night elfs withdrew from the battle and set an alliance with the Humans - who, always had Dwarfs in their ranks (The Mountain King Hero, Gryphon Riders etc.)
Not quite sure where gnomes came in, because they played no part in Wc3 Reign of Chaos or The Frozen Throne...
Sylvannus wished to lead a seperate life, after bein killed by the witch Kings Blade, which turned her into a Banshee...her and her fellow forsaken joined the Horde, through convenience
Thrall the Warchief entered Kalimdor to try and help his friend Grom Hellscream from the Demonic possession that him and the orcs had once been put upon them. At the same time, the Humans were here to explore the new land that had been discovered...led by Jaina Proudmoore (A former friend of Arthas - The leader of the Scourge)
During this time, the Nelfs, Humans and orcs formed an alliance at the base of Mount Hyjal to stop the Scourge and the Demonic Legion from destroying the "earth" by protecting the Great tree. Archimonde the Demon was defeated a long with numerous other Demonic leaders.
However, soon the truce broke, after Jainas Father (Admiral Proudmoore) sent troops to Kalimdor to try and execute Thrall.
Illidan - Cenarius's brother, tried to take the throne of the Lich king, and with his Naga allies, fought with the scourge, as the nelf race was pwoerless to do anything. Whoever they helped, would come out stronger than anyone and claim the throne as dominant race, so the Night elfs withdrew from the battle and set an alliance with the Humans - who, always had Dwarfs in their ranks (The Mountain King Hero, Gryphon Riders etc.)
Not quite sure where gnomes came in, because they played no part in Wc3 Reign of Chaos or The Frozen Throne...
Sylvannus wished to lead a seperate life, after bein killed by the witch Kings Blade, which turned her into a Banshee...her and her fellow forsaken joined the Horde, through convenience
Gnomes played no part in WC3 because they were dealing with the crisis at Gnomer. Troggs invaded Gnomeregan from the depths and the gnome king took the advice of his best friend and flooded the tunnels with radiation to try to kill the troggs. It turns out that his friend really wanted Gnomer for himself as the radiation killed or mutated most of the gnome population (that's where the Leper Gnomes come from). The gnomes didn't want to bother the dwarves as they seemed to be busy at the time (with the events of WC3) and in fact the Alliance was pissed with them for not helping until they bothered to ask the Gnomes what went on (at which point their consciences activated and the Dwarves immediately put them up in their own city). Gnomes are with the Alliance simply out of geographical convenience, as Gnomer is nearby Ironforge. If you'll notice, the Gnomes are the ones most likely to interact with Horde characters, even to the point of sharing their engineering secrets with us.
There isn't much other history offered about the Gnomes though. They're likely a native species like Trolls and Tauren and because they're small, they're easily overlooked.
There isn't much other history offered about the Gnomes though. They're likely a native species like Trolls and Tauren and because they're small, they're easily overlooked.
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well the other fraction part sems kool if bilzzard would make something up saying something like the horde betrayed the undead and the new side would be Forsaken and if they put the naga in WoW they could be put in there as well to other race like when ur dude gets lvl 10 they do a quest makeing them officly "Horde"(dont know for the alaince) and if they could do the same thing for the Forsaken u could do a quest that puts u on there side and same for the allaince it could be the fraction of few ppl who hate horde and allaince and as far as the guilds and friend list they could have a little box by there name and same Hated or something and if u do so the to could fight and if not they could do like they used to but the burning legion would be a kool fraction to i guss the leader ould be demons another race would be the red orcs (found in warcraft craft 3) naga and blood elfs (if i rember right) and so on but eather way i would like a new fraction tat could be neutrul with both allaince and horde unless otherwise
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GosusandtheRest said:
Oh my god that made me laugh.
Personally I think they should pull Undead out of horde and give them goblins, NE out of Alliance and just shoot them all. Put Blood Elves and the Undead together on a small island and sink it.
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Oh my god that made me laugh.
Personally I think they should pull Undead out of horde and give them goblins, NE out of Alliance and just shoot them all. Put Blood Elves and the Undead together on a small island and sink it.
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Instead of radiation they should have sent all the pvp twinked gnome rogues in to deal with the Troggs !
PS Troggs are cool, Reg Presley FTW !
PS Troggs are cool, Reg Presley FTW !
The horde believe that the only good human is a dead human, so that's why the undead are horde.
Night elves are cute and cuddly, so they are alliance.
Barney is also alliance, but chuuuck Nooorris is horde.
Night elves are cute and cuddly, so they are alliance.
Barney is also alliance, but chuuuck Nooorris is horde.
Well, though I didn't want to see this topic necroposted, at least you contributed. So, I'll let it slide.
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