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#1 Dec 20 2004 at 9:25 PM Rating: Good
Okay like a few min ago my dad told me the coolest thing. Let me just state that my parents are extremely strict. They dont let me play videogames during the week. They dont let me play video games a lot during the day (like maybe 3 hours in a row at the most...) And they certainly dont like it when I "waste time in front of the comp or TV instead of reading or doing homework." as they say. In fact my dad even belives that it is IMPOSSIBLE to do bad on a test. If i ever do bad his excuse is that i didnt study hard enough. Its never called a "hard test" or something that we didnt study. The teacher is always right... ANYWAY my parents were talking about how they pretty much just robbed me of 40 dollars (not literally) and how i wasnt really getting anything good for christmas. I walk up and half jokingly say "Dont worry once i get my report card..." My dad laughs at this point and says, "Yeah if you get straight A's I will get you that graphics card you want." I wasnt really expecting anything less of him, but then I say "You serious?" he then says "Sure, in fact if you get straight A's I will literally drive out that same night and get that game you have been talking about for you." (WoW obviously). I, amazed at this point at my dads strange generosity, laugh and say "You dont even really know what game it is." (meaning that he didnt know that it was pay to play). At this point he laughs and states "I dont really care. Just get straight A's!"

Now that this point you may think that I am a total dimwhit who never gets good grades so my parents arent expecting me to get straight A's. Well let me just say that this is not the case. In fact last marking period i got 2 B's and all A's and the B's were in classes that are weighted (means that a B is worth an A, C is worth a B, D is worth a C and so forth...). Anyway this topic is kind of pointless im just quite excited that my dad has said this and I will be sure to make him live up to his word, you can be sure of that! Anyway cheers and hope to see you ingame soon!
#2 Dec 20 2004 at 9:35 PM Rating: Decent
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lol, nice! I hope to get this game in a couple of days here soon, so then I can say {Good Bye} FFXI! I think that I will enjoy this game a lot^^(from what I've read anyways)
#3 Dec 20 2004 at 9:36 PM Rating: Decent
My kids will never play games! look what happened to me ^_^
#4 Dec 20 2004 at 9:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Lmao-my kids wont be either- :) Although my son already plays PS2 when he goes to his dad's house...:( His dad's personal babysitter-I guess. But my daughter wont be corrupted ;) LOL
I didn't play games until I was 16, Super Nintendo(Zelda), after me and my sister begged to let us have some sort of gaming system(our 3(ages 3-8) year old cousins had both Sega Gen and Sup. Nintendo-we were envious, lol) my mom was also very strict, but I was a bad girl ;)-we wont get into that hehe. My sister was the epitamy(sp??) of good so she agreed to get it and we too had the only on weekends and only for 3 hours a day thing going on. It's ok-I had friends and a boyfriend-but I needed my brain to turn to mush at some point by video games-drugs weren't doing it fast enough (lmao)...anyways.....Good for you..Grats for straight A's :) If you go onto Shadowsong-I'll see you there :)
#5 Dec 20 2004 at 9:54 PM Rating: Decent
Lol thanks. I do have to point out that I dont have straight A's at the moment but it shouldn't be too hard to bring them up. I will probably get the game even if i dont get straight A's, it will just be a nice bonus, plus it could never hurt =). The bad thing is our next report card comes around 5 weeks after New Years.... blah.... That sucks ***... Ohh well i still have FF XI. Gana try out some new jobs and waste some money for fun!!! X)
#6 Dec 20 2004 at 10:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Man. I sure am glad I'm not a kid.


I don't understand the point of being strict and overbearing. If your kid wants to play video games, stopping them is just going to make them want to play even more. I mean - homework comes first, and spending time with the family is important. However, whether they want to mindlessly absorb media (I.e. the socially accepted time sink of television) or interact with their form of entertainment (I.e. gaming) on their spare time should be up to them.

I came from a house where my father for some reason thought that computers were entertainment enough - and that we didn't need Nintendo... Now - this was back in the late 80s/early 90s, and the computers in question were Macs... My first video game system was a Game Boy when I was 15 and I finally bought my own Playstation (bought it specifically to play FFVII) when I was 17 and could buy it myself.

Anyway.. I think I'm scarred for life because my dad wouldn't buy me a Nintendo or a PC. Nowadays I'm 23 and can do what I want - and I spend a ridiculous amount of time trying to make up for the video gaming time I lost as a child.
#7 Dec 20 2004 at 10:50 PM Rating: Decent
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No offence, but I would be so fussterated all the time if my parents were like that. We would be agruing all of the time.

But on the lighter side, cool.
#8 Dec 20 2004 at 11:10 PM Rating: Default
Jord wrote:

However, whether they want to mindlessly absorb media (I.e. the socially accepted time sink of television) or interact with their form of entertainment (I.e. gaming) on their spare time should be up to them.

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Jord, I first want to say that the quality and thoughtfulness of your posts is usually top notch. My comment is not meant as an insult or a cheap shot. I simply want to put this out for discussion. For all I know you could have meant something completely different by your post.

However, I just wanted to contest your comment about the mindless absorption of TV versus the interactive nature of gaming. I have seen many people defend their gaming habits vs others TV habits using this same argument and it seems a little simplified and weak.

Although, as a gamer, I agree with you that gaming is an equal, if not better, way to spend free time, I don't think TV is mindless absorption. Programs like CSI, Band of Brothers and many other quality shows challenge the viewer to think and critically engage with the content, something that WoW and other games do not always offer.

My advice, moderation in various forms of media is a healthy approach.

Keep up the great posts Jord!


#9 Dec 20 2004 at 11:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Although, as a gamer, I agree with you that gaming is an equal, if not better, way to spend free time, I don't think TV is mindless absorption. Programs like CSI, Band of Brothers and many other quality shows challenge the viewer to think and critically engage with the content, something that WoW and other games do not always offer.

My advice, moderation in various forms of media is a healthy approach.


Very well said.

You are definitely right. I was over-generalizing. There are a lot of television shows that engage the viewer and evoke intellectual thought, and there are plenty of video games with no meaningful content whatsoever...

The true point that I had in my mind, which I realize I didn't express very clearly (in fact I don't think I even got to it) is that there is a social stigma against video games, while watching television is socially acceptable. My arguement still holds water even if you consider television and video games as equal.

So yeah... I definitely should have been clearer but I was playing online poker (and winning) while posting Smiley: king
#10 Dec 20 2004 at 11:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I let my 9 year old son play on a two hours of homework to one hour of video games,(reading a book counts as homework) so if say he accumalates 8 hrs through out the week then he can play for 4 hrs on saturday. Also if I go out the time he spends playing doesnt count against his hours earned (fiqure I'd rather know he's playing than for him to sneak to play) It seems to be working so far he might not have straight A's but he doing well enough.
#11 Dec 20 2004 at 11:57 PM Rating: Decent
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I let my 9 year old son play on a two hours of homework to one hour of video games,(reading a book counts as homework) so if say he accumalates 8 hrs through out the week then he can play for 4 hrs on saturday. Also if I go out the time he spends playing doesnt count against his hours earned (fiqure I'd rather know he's playing than for him to sneak to play) It seems to be working so far he might not have straight A's but he doing well enough.
#12 Dec 20 2004 at 11:58 PM Rating: Decent
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I let my 9 year old son play on a two hours of homework to one hour of video games,(reading a book counts as homework) so if say he accumalates 8 hrs through out the week then he can play for 4 hrs on saturday. Also if I go out the time he spends playing doesnt count against his hours earned (fiqure I'd rather know he's playing than for him to sneak to play) It seems to be working so far he might not have straight A's but he doing well enough.
#13 Dec 21 2004 at 6:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Let me just state that my parents are extremely strict. They dont let me play videogames during the week. They dont let me play video games a lot during the day (like maybe 3 hours in a row at the most...) And they certainly dont like it when I "waste time in front of the comp or TV instead of reading or doing homework." as they say. In fact my dad even belives that it is IMPOSSIBLE to do bad on a test. If i ever do bad his excuse is that i didnt study hard enough. Its never called a "hard test" or something that we didnt study. The teacher is always right...


Ok let me just start off by saying your parents suck and are wrong. Teachers are humans and are wrong constantly. Further more they probably hate you because you act like you know it all and plus the pay and benefits suck.

Lastly if you take away anything from your horrible child hood take what I have. Beat the ever living crap outta your kids if they ever refuse to play video games.

The End

Amen to the gaming Gods

Edited, Tue Dec 21 06:02:27 2004 by rockiesbluetaco
#14 Dec 21 2004 at 6:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Although, as a gamer, I agree with you that gaming is an equal, if not better, way to spend free time, I don't think TV is mindless absorption. Programs like CSI, Band of Brothers and many other quality shows challenge the viewer to think and critically engage with the content, something that WoW and other games do not always offer.


In WoW, there are insensitive morons who will talk in "1337" speak, ruin groups (hard to do in WoW), and basically kill your gaming experience.

On TV, there are shows that get way too raunchy for kids, put bad ideas and habits into kids, and that can take time to repair a child's mind.

There are bad sides of both spectrums, as well as good. It's a matter of preference, really. Both can be unhealthy if you let yourself be absorbed into it. I'm not trying to say there aren't good things that come from both. Taking down that big elite mob after a big instance or getting a new, hard-earned item can make someone feel happy and excited. A good show can provide a great learning experience for the new generation as well, challenging their mind (as stated earlier), and giving them different perspectives.

Just my 2c.

(Now, back off to bed~)
#15 Dec 21 2004 at 8:22 AM Rating: Default
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I get straight C's.
My parents don't care.
I do whatever I want =)
#16 Dec 21 2004 at 9:43 AM Rating: Decent
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OP: Good luck with your grades. Sounds like you're on track to make your daddy spend a few extra bucks on one of those evil, mind-bending, stupifying tools of the devil. :p

Also, be sure to play as much as you can for as long as you can. Once you're back to school, your dad is in all liklihood going to be quick to cut payments.
#17 Dec 21 2004 at 10:58 AM Rating: Good
Wow...this is certainly a different thread than what's typically seen.

School vs. Video games vs. TV. This debate has been going around for a very long time.

First of all, people who say that video games turns kids into killers has some pretty screwed up ideas. Yes, there are some kids that play the wrong types of games that get some very foolish ideas...but there is still something inherantly broken in them when they try to act this out in real life. I'm sorry, but a perfectly adjusted 13 year old doesn't play grand theft auto, then go on a shooting spree.

Whoa...where did that rant come from?

Anyway, I think TV and video games can both be very very good tools for raising children. Children need some sort of outlet for their free time. Mindless TV is a horrid idea, and a lot of TV out there is totally inappropriate. However, TLC, the Discovery Channel, and some crime-type shows are filled with useful information, and before you go mocking them, can be really fascinating TV. People may think channels like the discovery channel and stuff are for total losers, but I gotta tell you, FASCINATING stuff sometimes.

Online games offer social interaction, problem solving skills, they develop teamwork, and help child learn how to plan and carry through with plans.

Many studies have shown that children who play video games do better in some aspects of school because of the stimulation the games provide. In addition, action type video games improve hand-eye coordination.

The flip side is that you don't have any control over what other people say or do. So you child will be potentially exposed to racist language, swearing, sex talk, violence, cheating, lying, steal, and general unethical behavior.

Just like you wouldn't hand your child a remote and walk away, letting them watch whatever they want (playboy channel?) you shouldn't leave your child in front of the computer and let them play away unsupervised. (Unless they are old enough, of course).

Remember, the TV and computer are entertainment, not babysitters.
#18 Dec 21 2004 at 11:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Good for you. Hope you get to play soon.

As for me, my parents were pretty lenient with me when I was younger (24 now), but they layed(sp?) down the law when needed.

As far as video games go, we've always been playing them since the days of Pong. I was given my first Nintendo when they first came out and been playing ever since.

#19 Dec 21 2004 at 11:18 AM Rating: Good
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Rate up for you, thank goodness some parents still hold thier kids accountable for their actions.

The only thing you are going to learn from school is balance. Learning to balance the different parts of life is the biggest challenge you will ever undertake. Be glad you have parents who are helping.

Just make sure you keep it up though. Congrats!
#20 Dec 21 2004 at 11:33 AM Rating: Good
Gah...naked santa. >.<

*runs away crying*
#21 Dec 21 2004 at 11:34 AM Rating: Good
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He's not naked, he's got a hat and boots on. Santa has needs too ok....
#22 Dec 21 2004 at 11:39 AM Rating: Good
Funny how when I wear nothing but a hat and boots I still feel very much naked.

Now I feel really dirty for having just said that. >.<
#23 Dec 21 2004 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Programs like CSI


I'm sorry, but CSI is an eye roller if I ever saw one. Ugh >_<. We're a long way off from the X-Files... and I wasn't even a fan of the X-Files... just that the few epidosde of CSI I've seen are just... not very interesting.

And heck, I'm not the only one who think so, so meh!

http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20041212

Heck, TV is a guilty pleasure, the greater majority of the shows are indeed 'mindless' absorption. While even the most simple game at least requires you to think. There's the simple fact that VG requires interaction, while TV doesn't.

The 'smart' TV is usually the one that isn't seen as 'entertainment' by the masses (i.e. Discovery Channel and the like).


However, while the 'merits' of TV vs VG are debatable, one thing that isn't is the social acceptance of the two media. Missing a 'night out with the gang' because your program is on or 'there's a game' is more or less exceptable - heck, it's practically expected from everybody to have at least one show that we follow on TV - but if you were to say 'I can't go out tonight guys, I'm doing Shadow Fang Keep with my guild' ... heh.


#24 Dec 21 2004 at 12:25 PM Rating: Good
Tyrandor wrote:
However, while the 'merits' of TV vs VG are debatable, one thing that isn't is the social acceptance of the two media. Missing a 'night out with the gang' because your program is on or 'there's a game' is more or less exceptable - heck, it's practically expected from everybody to have at least one show that we follow on TV - but if you were to say 'I can't go out tonight guys, I'm doing Shadow Fang Keep with my guild' ... heh.
I think that's a little different for kids than adults. I think a kid saying "Yeah, my troll hunter trashed Shadow Fang Keep last night" would get some respect from his peers since games like this tend to be viewed as "cool" by some. However, any adult who admits to playing video games for more than an hour a week gets looked at like a social delinquent.

I hate that. -.-
#25 Dec 21 2004 at 1:25 PM Rating: Decent
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I think a kid saying "Yeah, my troll hunter trashed Shadow Fang Keep last night" would get some respect from his peers since games like this tend to be viewed as "cool" by some.


Well, I'm 24 now, so kids acceptance toward videogame might have changed, but back when I was in high school, it still wasn't that hot.

And even if you're talking to kids and/or gamers, they might roll their eyes at mention of an MMORPG (especially if they don't play said MMORPG) - which are seen by many gamers as nerdier then your average videogame.
#26 Dec 21 2004 at 1:36 PM Rating: Good
Tyrandor wrote:
Well, I'm 24 now, so kids acceptance toward videogame might have changed, but back when I was in high school, it still wasn't that hot.

And even if you're talking to kids and/or gamers, they might roll their eyes at mention of an MMORPG (especially if they don't play said MMORPG) - which are seen by many gamers as nerdier then your average videogame.
Well yeah, you probably have a point.

I just know that games like Grand Theft Auto and such really changed the way a lot of people looked at video games (in terms of high school). All of a sudden you could be a rebel in a game, be a total badass and such.

MMORPGs I think are benefiting from that somewhat. I don't know for sure tho, I haven't been in high school for a very very long time. (Longer than you. :P)

Anyone in high school care to comment?
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