I'm fairly frustrated with the elite quest system. Doing them at too low a level, takes too long. Doing them at a high level, takes almost as long and yields no xp, and yields drops unlikely to be useful to you.
Are some elite quests better than others in terms of drops?
More importantly though, what rules of thumb can u give for setting up parties... in terms of max level relative to the quest level, and highest level member relative to rest of group.
What level quests can you solo?, duo?, trio?
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oh almost forgot,
I'm level 32. Which elite quests are better than others?
I'm level 32. Which elite quests are better than others?
Elite Quests are pt quest... and if it does not give me very good item... i don't botther... but laty i feel that since i get good item every few level killing stuff... i feel that it's wast of time...
eg? spant over 2 days (irl) to get perfict somting scale (in wc) this wass when i was level 20 is so was long ago!
finaly made the blue colored belt :D and was happy that the stats kicked ***!
want to st... killed few hurpys and oh look what is that elit tree thing, let's kill it... and get the item drop of better belt!
any way i stoped doing elite quest or quest that take to long...
eg? spant over 2 days (irl) to get perfict somting scale (in wc) this wass when i was level 20 is so was long ago!
finaly made the blue colored belt :D and was happy that the stats kicked ***!
want to st... killed few hurpys and oh look what is that elit tree thing, let's kill it... and get the item drop of better belt!
any way i stoped doing elite quest or quest that take to long...
I do every quest I can possibly do ^_-
Elite quests give you better faction reward. This can be very important when trying to raise faction with steelwheel cartel, since there are so few quest for them to begin with.
I also like the Elite quests becaues they carry a lot more story.
I also like the Elite quests becaues they carry a lot more story.
Elite quests give a lot of money at the level given. And yes, you are supposed to do them with a party, not solo.
It's.... FOR FUN...
Elite quests are made for groups. If you insist on soloing them you will end up doing them at levels that make it seem trivial to you because there is no challenge. If you feel the need to solo, solo, solo, then perhaps a MMORPG is not your forte and you should instead load up Neverwinter Nights and start playing that.
Finally just because the "end prize" is not something that you can use or "sucks", does not mean that another mob or sub-boss within that instance wont drop something that IS useful to you.
Edited, Sun Dec 19 15:17:36 2004 by Snarlfang
Finally just because the "end prize" is not something that you can use or "sucks", does not mean that another mob or sub-boss within that instance wont drop something that IS useful to you.
Edited, Sun Dec 19 15:17:36 2004 by Snarlfang
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If you feel the need to solo, solo, solo, then perhaps a MMORPG is not your forte and you should instead load up Neverwinter Nights and start playing that.
I hate this sort of attitude, I really do. Just because people want to fight monsters solo, that doesn't mean that they don't want ANY of the MMO features. Trading/selling items to other players, chatting in public channels or guild channels, and helping others (and being helped by others) - those are all things that soloists can do in an MMO that can't be had in a single player game.
The argument is really insulting to those who want to solo. Standing around waiting to form a group is tiresome and sometimes a real pain in the ***. I'm grateful that World of Warcraft actually allows players to solo and still accomplish tasks.
Elite quests are group-only. It's a sad fact, but it's true. If you want to do them, get a group and go wild. Shadowfang Keep is a blast... (except for that one staircase - if you've done Shadowfang, you know the one I'm talking about) =^_^=
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Elite quests are group-only. It's a sad fact, but it's true. If you want to do them, get a group and go wild.
Wait what, it's a sad fact that the game forces you to group for the best rewards? Come on, seriously folks...
Eej wrote:
Wait what, it's a sad fact that the game forces you to group for the best rewards? Come on, seriously folks...
Yes, because then you would see everyone walking around with the same items. Elite quests are hard for a reason. Only people who know how to group right can complete them. It takes a team effort. All the best items drop from instances. What's next? Going to complain about how you need a raid group for Onyxia and how you should be able to solo her? Laugh.
Edit: At the lvl 30ish area, you're still in the newbish instances. Wait until 40+ where the instances actually require more strategy.
Edited, Sun Dec 19 18:14:59 2004 by Korup
Er... that line was meant to be facetious, not serious. I'm not at all sad that I have to get a group for Elite quests. Just sad that I have to group with some real dimwits to do it, sometimes.
Though I'm frustrated, I'd like to give elite quests more of a chance.
What guidelines can u give me for pickup parties in terms of levels relative to quest level. Maybe there is a guide that shows xp charts relative to party size and level, you can point me to.
As a starting point, I've found soloing lvl 24 elites to give 240xp (when I was lvl 31). About the same as a 33 regular mob.
Unfortunately, a lvl 24 elite quest would have a lot of zero xp mobs that have to be waded through.
If I were to guess at the answers im looking for, I'd say a full party 3-4 levels higher than the quest offers the best balance of relative ease and good xp and items. 3 players can do it 5-6 levels above quest. Does that seem about right?
What guidelines can u give me for pickup parties in terms of levels relative to quest level. Maybe there is a guide that shows xp charts relative to party size and level, you can point me to.
As a starting point, I've found soloing lvl 24 elites to give 240xp (when I was lvl 31). About the same as a 33 regular mob.
Unfortunately, a lvl 24 elite quest would have a lot of zero xp mobs that have to be waded through.
If I were to guess at the answers im looking for, I'd say a full party 3-4 levels higher than the quest offers the best balance of relative ease and good xp and items. 3 players can do it 5-6 levels above quest. Does that seem about right?
I'd say that for the best bang for your buck, you should have a party that is the same level as the highest challenge in the dungeon. Do it earlier, and you're risking too many wipes. Do it much later, and it won't be much of a challenge, and you won't get much XP.
Why not just do 'em for fun?
I try to do every quest I can reasonably do, even if the reward isn't that great, just for fun.
Can't answer what to do for getting good pick-up parties, since the only time I do instances is with my guildmates.
That may be part of your problem? Are you in a guild? Do they like to do instances?
I try to do every quest I can reasonably do, even if the reward isn't that great, just for fun.
Can't answer what to do for getting good pick-up parties, since the only time I do instances is with my guildmates.
That may be part of your problem? Are you in a guild? Do they like to do instances?
Pickup parties are horrible. I joined a 'professional' guild just to have competent people to instance with. Had no problems at all.
Bleh, pick-up groups take the fun out of things due to incompatence..but profession guilds just plain take the fun out of stuff due to being too uptight.
Oh well, I like being in the middle.
Oh well, I like being in the middle.
Korup wrote:
Pickup parties are horrible. I joined a 'professional' guild just to have competent people to instance with. Had no problems at all.
I've had 1 bad pickup party and 3 good ones. There is nothing really wrong with pickup parties except maybe the way very few people respect looting options. One of the three parties started out what seemed bad, but after a whipe to Van Cleef, we manged to clear out the deadmins respawn and where working like a well oild machine.
I think the problem with pickup teams is people aren't willing to take a few lumps to get a grove going they die once and are all "OMGWTF U Suxors!" and let that aditude follow them through the whole instance.
For elite quests I'd say, do every one that you reasonably can. If you don't want to take this approach, then you will miss out on some good items that aren't necessarily a quest reward. Bosses and sub-bosses almost always drop good items. If you can't use them or don't want them, they usually sell for a good amount (even to vendors if they are bing on pick-up). If you plan to ever get a mount, you will want more fame from your race, and elite quests always give better faction than regular quests. Other than all of that, I'd say do whatever you think seems the most beneficial, or leave the good stuff to us! =P
You miss out if you don't do a lot of the instance and elite quests. I still need to do some from 10 levels ago, just because I didn't know I missed them. =)
You miss out if you don't do a lot of the instance and elite quests. I still need to do some from 10 levels ago, just because I didn't know I missed them. =)
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Elite quests are group-only. It's a sad fact, but it's true.
Actually thats not true... well at least 100%. Most elites ARE group-only, however some can be done solo by the right strategy/class.
I've duoed (I know thats not solo... but hang on before you start to flame or something) a couple elites with a friend hunter before in an instance. It was hard, but we did it. The quests were green if I remember right... SO while I lost a little exp, it was still a signifant chunk.
Just today as a level 33 hunter I soloed a green elite in 1k needles. Again lost a little exp, but it was still a good chunk.
Hunters really have an easier time with elite mobs then some other jobs. We can just sick our pets on the elite to tank while we fire away and use mend pet to heal him should need be. Thats what I did for the enraged panther and then later some named elite elemental for another (non elite) quest.
Just my .02
Again, i'm not trying to say you could totally never group for elites... thats insane to do. But ones out of instances you can sometimes solo with good strategy.
BTW I think the exp was something like 2k each of the two elites...
I LIKE KILLING ELITES.
GIVES ME A SENSE OF PERSONAL SATISFACTION.
GIVES ME A SENSE OF PERSONAL SATISFACTION.
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