Allright Guys-
Heres the situation. I moved over to WoW from FFXI with a couple friends of mine, one in real life, and a couple from the guild.
Me and my friend had both gotten our characters on Alleria up to 18, when my friend from FFXI decided to come over. So we restarted on Mal'Ganis Server. I'm now a level 20 Night Elf Rogue, hes a 18 Night Elf Druid, and my other friend is a 18 Dwarf Hunter. After the actions I saw tonight I am questioning wether I should ditch the 50 hours played I have on my character on Mal'Ganis and go back to my old server.
I was sitting in Redridge tonight, doing some quests, its an Alliance dominated zone. Well, here came a group of Horde, not just a group though, but an actual army almost. At least 100 players, and they just slaughtered us, we tried and fought as hard as we could, but there were just too many for us. I died around 9 times trying to defend the Alliance. That's not really the worst part for me, though. Its that, it seems like all the little 10-15 year old B-Net kiddies think being the Horde is so badass. Yes, I realize that there are great gamers on the Horde's side, as well as the Alliances, but there is a severe advantage for the Horde on PvP servers right now from what I have seen and heard. Something like 65/35 in favor of the Horde. The Alliance stands no chance with odds like this.
I am questioning wether I should level my character to 60 only to find out every time I want to step outside my own town I'll get assaulted. I realize that part of this is what PvP is about.... but it just seems like the Alliance side is at such a dis-advantage right now... that I dont know if it will ever come back around.
Another part of me doesnt want to leave this server, I like my character, and my friend and I allready switched servers, and I know he wont be happy if I tell him we have to switch back again... but I don't know what else too do.
It just seems like I am fighting a hopeless cause.
Reactor
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Pretty rare occurance to have mass raids with 80-100 people. Most of the time its at most 20-40 and when you do hit 60 they are ussually in more controlled areas alla hillsbrad and the such.
Its a sight to see when you have 2 equally matched raiding forces playing a tug of war.
Its a sight to see when you have 2 equally matched raiding forces playing a tug of war.
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Posted: Dec 11 2004 at 10:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well I am on Alleria and I say go back. PvP servers suck.
This is just an event that occurs in a PvP server. Sometimes people will get bored and build up a large raid group and just go, well, raiding. It doesn't happen 24/7, you've played a bit and you should know this by now.
Besides, if you're outnumbered, it just means more people to kill...
Besides, if you're outnumbered, it just means more people to kill...
PvP servers most certainly do not suck, they're awesome. And to the original poster, it's still early in the game man, wait and see how things pan out. There's going to be a big number of people coming in around christmas I bet and that could even out numbers right there. It's not like just because there's more horde on your server now that it will be like that forever.
Plus, you don't even know if there really *is* more horde on your server than alliance, you said it's what you've heard. Talk is cheap. It could have just been being in the wrong place at the wrong time fighting the wrong guys. I'm sure you'll have your fair share of slaughtering horde just like they just got you.
Revenge is sweet. Above all it should make you want to stay on that server, constantly giving you something to look forward too.
Plus, you don't even know if there really *is* more horde on your server than alliance, you said it's what you've heard. Talk is cheap. It could have just been being in the wrong place at the wrong time fighting the wrong guys. I'm sure you'll have your fair share of slaughtering horde just like they just got you.
Revenge is sweet. Above all it should make you want to stay on that server, constantly giving you something to look forward too.
There's good and bad to PvP. One of the good parts: If people are disrupting your play to the point that it's not fun any more - you can always head to another zone that's designed for your level range. There's no one spot that you're limited to, ever.
I'm not a PvP fan, normally, and I think WoW is doing PvP right, more or less. Now if we can just get them to reconsider their decision for the Honor System of totally removing penalties for killing someone far below your level...
I'm not a PvP fan, normally, and I think WoW is doing PvP right, more or less. Now if we can just get them to reconsider their decision for the Honor System of totally removing penalties for killing someone far below your level...
This happens even rarer on PVE server, but it happens, and its not going to be a fun day for you when they wipe out all your npcs and your side "had quests to do".
Reactor, I'm getting this game soon, so I'll try to come to your server and be an alliance if I can. I should be getting this game in a few days(I hope).
Well, since I don't have this game and I have a question over PvP(sorry), but on PvE servers, can you still kill from the other faction or is it that they just really really hate you? I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but I would like to know before I get the game. Thanks for the answer(s) and sorry for such a newbish question.
Well, since I don't have this game and I have a question over PvP(sorry), but on PvE servers, can you still kill from the other faction or is it that they just really really hate you? I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but I would like to know before I get the game. Thanks for the answer(s) and sorry for such a newbish question.
In PvE servers you can only enter PvP through flagging yourself.
If you mean PLAY with the other side, no , no you cannot.
If you mean PLAY with the other side, no , no you cannot.
Thanks Vampyre, that did clear things up :P
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severe advantage for the Horde on PvP servers right now from what I have seen and heard. Something like 65/35 in favor of the Horde. The Alliance stands no chance with odds like this.
you do know that every server, alli out number the hord? and i have no idea why you are saying that alli have no chance against them...
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you do know that every server, alli out number the hord? and i have no idea why you are saying that alli have no chance against them...
He says this becuase he knows instinctly that alliance people are weaker, less intelligent, and without honor; when compared to Horde.
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sure they zerg, bait ppl (god i hate ne that does this, to lower ppl) but weaker? less intelligent? never!
i seen so many hord rush to kill levle 10 ne standing in the middle of the road... you try to tell them that is bait, and most likey there are 4-5 high level hiding... but off they go to get killed......
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He says this becuase he knows instinctly that alliance people are weaker, less intelligent, and without honor; when compared to Horde.
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sure they zerg, bait ppl (god i hate ne that does this, to lower ppl) but weaker? less intelligent? never!
i seen so many hord rush to kill levle 10 ne standing in the middle of the road... you try to tell them that is bait, and most likey there are 4-5 high level hiding... but off they go to get killed......
Well, I play on RP, but if I did play on a PvP server, and it was 65%/35% in favour of horde.. then I'd pick Alliance, deliberately to be on the more challenged side. Because then my team would have to play smarter and it would be more exciting. Its not about having the numbers, if it was then it really would just be a gankfest.
And regarding killing players below your level in PvP... I never understand that. Duelling, yes. But in a war... how often in RL does that ever matter? If I'm a lvl30 in a contested zone and I avoid a lvl20 horde that I see there, and he kills my lvl10 guildmate who was in the area.. no sense. If you see 100 horde rushing in - run away! try to hide and pick off a straggler maybe. If he's lower level, kill him anyway. What's the deal?
There can be no right answer when lower lvl people can gang up on a higher lvl character - which is also a good strategy. Its PvP and in the areas where you're likely to be low-mid level then your team has a big advantage, so wait it out and go back to questing when its safer. And if you get a chance to kill someone on the other side, then kill them.
Queensberry rules were silly when they were written for boxing, and they don't suddenly apply in war.
Take Care,
Cherreia.
And regarding killing players below your level in PvP... I never understand that. Duelling, yes. But in a war... how often in RL does that ever matter? If I'm a lvl30 in a contested zone and I avoid a lvl20 horde that I see there, and he kills my lvl10 guildmate who was in the area.. no sense. If you see 100 horde rushing in - run away! try to hide and pick off a straggler maybe. If he's lower level, kill him anyway. What's the deal?
There can be no right answer when lower lvl people can gang up on a higher lvl character - which is also a good strategy. Its PvP and in the areas where you're likely to be low-mid level then your team has a big advantage, so wait it out and go back to questing when its safer. And if you get a chance to kill someone on the other side, then kill them.
Queensberry rules were silly when they were written for boxing, and they don't suddenly apply in war.
Take Care,
Cherreia.
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but there is a severe advantage for the Horde on PvP servers right now from what I have seen and heard. Something like 65/35 in favor of the Horde. The Alliance stands no chance with odds like this.
To address Reactor's concerns about being outnumbered, I too am badly outnumbered on my server, but I get along just fine. In PvP if you want to level and get to the end of the game, you will need to learn to sneak and hide and creep your way there, you can't just take the main road to where you're going.
Well first off, i'm on a RP server, but i'll offer my 2cents on this.
Basically you kinda signed up for this type of thing to happen when you joined a PvP server. Not trying to sound mean here, but come on, you should realize this could happen and not leave the server for it.
Whats to stop a level 60 from being assaulted? Does some magic shield go up?
Anyways, sorry that this turned into a semi-flame, but I don't think that you should even question your descision about this. You have to be more sneaky, like was posted, but keep in mind this is what a war is like.
Again, sorry this turned into a flameish post, as I wasn't intending it to, but I speak (well technically type) my mind...
Basically you kinda signed up for this type of thing to happen when you joined a PvP server. Not trying to sound mean here, but come on, you should realize this could happen and not leave the server for it.
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I am questioning wether I should level my character to 60 only to find out every time I want to step outside my own town I'll get assaulted.
Whats to stop a level 60 from being assaulted? Does some magic shield go up?
Anyways, sorry that this turned into a semi-flame, but I don't think that you should even question your descision about this. You have to be more sneaky, like was posted, but keep in mind this is what a war is like.
Again, sorry this turned into a flameish post, as I wasn't intending it to, but I speak (well technically type) my mind...
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