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#1 Dec 09 2004 at 3:54 PM Rating: Default
[b][/b]Umm i was wnder because i wanna know if its worth it to make a pllay , warror , or a healer to make cash from powerleveling people? Because that i think is the best way to start the game pl people so they eill pl u when u make a new char see???
#2 Dec 09 2004 at 4:02 PM Rating: Decent
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No, it is not

Damn, I swear capitolists are everywhere these days
#3 Dec 09 2004 at 4:03 PM Rating: Good
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I suppose you could, but I don't see it being all that effective. Would still be quicker to do the quests and get experience that way.


Powerleveling is bad. If you powerlevel someone they don't learn how to use their class properly and are a hindrance to a group.
#4 Dec 09 2004 at 4:12 PM Rating: Decent
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I doubt there'd be much demand, it's too fun to level, it's not work like in some other MMORPGs...

And I agree, play your job, learn it from the ground up, PL'ing is barely one step above just buying the character, you don;t understand how your skills work, much less work together.
#5 Dec 09 2004 at 6:09 PM Rating: Decent
I experimented with powerleveling in beta. I had a 22 druid but found the following issues:

1) Buffs are all level limited. You must cast your baby buffs on low level characters removing the "power" from "power levelling"
2) You can't "give" experience to other characters. In, say Everquest, I had ways to significantly increase your DPS and/or do all the damage and give you the exp.
3) You can do the quests (kill this, loot that) but what happens is that you complete difficult quests but no longer gain enough experience to be meaningful. In the end, you've completed level 10-15 quests at level 5 and suddenly, when by yourself, you're a level 6 who has only level 16+ quests available.

While I certainly like the fact that you can't powerlevel, it is dissappointing that when my friends get the game for Christmas.. I'm not going to be able to help them very much.

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#6 Dec 09 2004 at 6:45 PM Rating: Good
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Powerleveling is bad. If you powerlevel someone they don't learn how to use their class properly and are a hindrance to a group.


Stop thinking in FFXI terms there is no group.

Also playing through a job you will learn what quests to do and you can hit 60 very fast your 2nd or 3rd time through.
#7 Dec 09 2004 at 6:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Powerleveling in WoW isn't healing someone. It's finding a spot with elite mobs 5-6 levels higher than you, and tagging them. You then have a higher level friend kill it.
#8 Dec 09 2004 at 7:12 PM Rating: Default
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2) You can't "give" experience to other characters. In, say Everquest, I had ways to significantly increase your DPS and/or do all the damage and give you the exp.


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Powerleveling in WoW isn't healing someone. It's finding a spot with elite mobs 5-6 levels higher than you, and tagging them. You then have a higher level friend kill it.


I agree with Chtulhu the Quick. What do you mean you can't "give" experience? That is exactly how my roommate helps me catch up when he plays too much and gets ahead in level. I claim the mobs and he helps me kill them. We have always been pretty close in level though, does this not work if there is too great a level difference or something?

Out of curiousity does anyone know the formulas for exp when in a group? And what happens when you group with ppl of a higher level? Is it similar to ffxi, highest person in the group determines exp or is it based on your level to the mobs level, or does it not have anythign to do with level at all? It looks like there is a penalty for grouping(but I could be wrong) but it doesn't seem linear. I know i could probably figure it out by taking some statistics, but I don't want to reinvent the wheel. Just curious. I still haven't figured out some of these basics to the game. I'm really wondering how ppl lvl'd up so quick cause I've been playing quite a bit and am not even close. I'd like to make sure I understand all I can about exp'ing and am not missing something.
#9 Dec 09 2004 at 7:17 PM Rating: Decent
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I thought that you take a hit on exp if someone else helps u kill a mob, even if they arent in your group, to prevent such powerleveling. Also, the higher level they are, the bigger the hit you take. Was I completely misinformed here?
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#10 Dec 09 2004 at 9:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't see how you can powerlevel with the XP penalty when you are in a party.
#11 Dec 09 2004 at 9:30 PM Rating: Good
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You don't go in a pty one person just attacks it tagging it. Then the high lvl person kills it. You still take a hit but not as big of one.

Its still faster if you know what quests to do though.
#12 Dec 09 2004 at 10:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Powerlevelling ruins gaming experience... sure, you accomplish a few levels, but the fun of it all is the proccess.
#13 Dec 10 2004 at 1:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Here's how you powerlevel in this game, the quickest way: Do The Quests. Unlike FFXI or whatever MMORPG you were on before, killing monsters is not the way to level up, at least not early in the game. A person who goes around completing quests will level up faster than some guy killing hundreds of monsters straight through.

Quest Coloring: You notice quests come in multiple colors as to display difficulty, it also affects how much experience you're likely to gain from that quest. Yellow means 100% exp, Green around 70-80%, Gray less than 20%, Orange more than 100%, and Red around 150%. If you complete quests in the Red zone, you'll gain the most experience out of that quest. If at anytime one of your quests turn into the Green, you better finish it if you want any exp at all from it.

As for Tapping a monster then having someone else, not in the party, kill it there is a math for this. Its based on the "helping" player's level and how much damage they are doing to the monster. If the helping player does most of the damage, then your exp is cut dramatically. Safe to say if the other guy does ALL the damage after you tapped it, you get absolutely NOTHING.
#14 Dec 10 2004 at 1:21 AM Rating: Decent
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i thought that quest coloring was just for relative levels, not actually affecting exp. Can anyone confirm what Madgeist says (not saying its not true, just want to make sure)
#15 Dec 10 2004 at 1:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Doesn't the colour of the quest represent the level at which is it to be done? And if you are too high for that quest, it will still yield the same amount of exp if a character did it while it was still challenging to them, but it will be less beneficial on a higher level player who simply breezed through the quest...
#16 Dec 10 2004 at 1:47 AM Rating: Decent
The xp bonus for quests is talked about in the Brady Games guide. If I can get my freind to give it up I might be able to scan the page and post it up. The gist of it is like MadGeist said. If you do a Red Elite you will get a xp bonus, however if you wait until the quest is green elite you will get substantially lower xp reward from the same quest.
#17 Dec 11 2004 at 5:24 AM Rating: Decent
I'm pretty certain the quest xp boost is a myth....We do all our quests together but she's always 2-3 levels below so almost all the quests for her are a color grade above what they are for me (or more) but we've always gotten the same exp when the quest was completed.

I wouldn't put much stock in the strategy guide...there's a number of things in it that are no longer accurate.
#18 Dec 11 2004 at 5:49 AM Rating: Decent
I was out getting gold ( I lacked some on my priest to get my new SW:P and Smite ), and I was getting XP from higher level monsters in Stranglethorn in the group.

She was level 40, I was 26. Of course the XP was the same exact XP I would get for taking out a Red ( I think ), so of course this isn't a good way to power level, but it is a good way to help out a friend get money for a ride. ( I heal her and her pet when she needs it, she lets me have a cut of the money we gain, I buy spells later and have some left over for auction spending)

The only way I can think of that you could gain XP effectively in the power leveling sense is Partying with your friend, taking missions, having your friend complete them with you, and then cashing in for the XP.

This of course, seems boring as hell for me. I like reading the text of quest, I like learning the story (Cause I never played a WC game). But then again, I do like exploring, and not being the right level while exploring has gotten be killed repeatedly. .
#19 Dec 11 2004 at 6:00 AM Rating: Decent
If the quest XP bonus is a myth, how come when quests are grey to me they give me like, 200xp? It's fact. Try doing an elite, red quest and tell me how much XP you get off it.
#20 Dec 11 2004 at 6:31 AM Rating: Decent
MadGeist wrote:
Quest Coloring: You notice quests come in multiple colors as to display difficulty, it also affects how much experience you're likely to gain from that quest. Yellow means 100% exp, Green around 70-80%, Gray less than 20%, Orange more than 100%, and Red around 150%. If you complete quests in the Red zone, you'll gain the most experience out of that quest. If at anytime one of your quests turn into the Green, you better finish it if you want any exp at all from it.


This is not true from my experiences. I'll cite the one example that I just recently tested.

Bounty on Murlocs quest given by Guard Thomas in Elwynn Forest. Marked in the quest log as a level 10 quest. Did it with my level 10 mage. XP reward? 775. Went back with my level 17 rogue (who had not completed it cuz Murlocs suck) and she did it. XP reward? 775. Small sample, yes, which is why I'm really interested in finding out if this XP bonus thing truly exists (the strat guide was written BEFORE Open Beta and a lot has changed since the time of that writing) and if so, how.
#21 Dec 11 2004 at 6:47 AM Rating: Decent
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You don't get as much exp from low (gray) level quests. I've tested it. On my main char I skipped a lot of quests going from level 1 to level 30ish. I did the level 1-10 quests on a level 1-10 char (doing the quests at their respective levels). I then went back to my main char who was 20 levels too high for the quests and did them for, at the most, 40 exp. If anyone's done a level 10 quest you know you get much more than 40 exp from one.
#22 Dec 11 2004 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
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THERE IS NO WAY TO POWER-LEVEL. ANYTHING YOU DO TO TRY WILL ONLY EVENTUALLY SLOW YOU DOWN!

1. You cannot group with someone much higher because the level differential will nix most of your exp.

2. You cannot tag a mob and have someone else fight it for you because this will nix most of your exp.

3. You cannot do all the quests with a high-level person and expect to level because you will run out of quests before you level, going on quest exp alone.

4. All buffs and items are level-based, so there is no way to make a super buff twink and maul everything for exp in no time flat.

The *only* thing you can do is heal the person so they don't die, or taunt it from them without killing it. That isn't really power-leveling them so much as keeping them from dying.
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#23 Dec 11 2004 at 1:30 PM Rating: Default
Thank you for rating this guy down, just like you do me =p.

IMO, powerlevelers ruin and destroy games, just like someone up top said (Credit given) that that person is almost as bad as an eBay-er with knowledge of how to run their class, especially a caster/healer who NEEDS to know how to play his class to keep others alive.
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