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#1 Dec 05 2004 at 9:51 AM Rating: Decent
I think I will start play WoW and stop FFXI.
But there is a thng that scared me , Will WoW be Intresting for a LONG time , I Liked FFXI Becaus I played it for Months ( Allmost a year ) And still I realy ahven't seen it all.
But then WoW Someone is allready 60 caped -. -,
This is quit fast , I'm realy a person who spend alllllot of time in Mmorpg gaming. But WoW Can you realy play it for hours for years, You know What I mean , I know Its In early state and allot will come extra, But still Its something I'm not sure off.
What do you guys think ?
#2 Dec 05 2004 at 10:24 AM Rating: Decent
I am sure their will be Expasion's just like in most MMOrPG's.
Though someone being Lvl 60 already is kind of messed up. I guess they have no life, and played none stop since release.

Hmmmm I will keep on keeping on in this MMoRpg I believe that it is the best one thus far. The game play/everything is exatly or almost what I every much want to have in a MMORpG. I have been playing Online RPG's since UO. I like this one the best.
I can see myself play 3 or 4 other professions just for the hell of it.

PEACE!!!
#3 Dec 05 2004 at 2:40 PM Rating: Decent
There are so many other threads already with this same question in them. But one thing I will say is, FFXI from what I have heard ends at lvl cap unless you want to play all the other jobs too. WoW devs have said that the game will begin at lvl cap with the extra content they are going to put in.

Here is one other thread that was just recently posted with a little bit of info on this also. There are others too but I am not going to link them all here.
http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=21&mid=1101993137560216558#1102004953594606206
#4 Dec 05 2004 at 3:29 PM Rating: Good
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The nice thing about WoW, all the different races/quests/factions/classes.

So you get a Tauren Hunter to level cap. So what know?

Why not play an Orc Warrior? It'll end up being a whole different experience. Even when you get to the common areas, some quests would be the same, but some wouldn't. There are class specific quests in some of the areas.

Tired of the Horde? Play a Night Elf or a Dwarf. Night Elf's start in an area away from their Alliance allies, so that's a different experience then from playing as another Alliance race.

You can have a max of 50 characters, 8 to a server. Played on PvE, then play on PvP, or even try a RP server.
#5 Dec 05 2004 at 3:31 PM Rating: Decent
Nevermind the fact that if you want to grind so fast to 60, you'll miss like half the quests. You have a lot of choice when it comes to where you want to spend your time questing. I mean, at level 35 I can choose to finish off some Desolace quests, or head to Alterac Mountains and finish some quests that involve that place, or maybe even go to Arathi to kill some Ogres, perhaps even Stranglethorn Vale and do quests for Booty Bay.

Even then, hitting the cap is supposed to be only the beginning, if Blizz's plan works...
#6 Dec 05 2004 at 3:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Even then, hitting the cap is supposed to be only the beginning, if Blizz's plan works...


lets hope so =[
#7 Dec 05 2004 at 3:50 PM Rating: Decent
K thx guys , I dicided to give it a try , Went today to shop to order a CE of WoW , Got one of the 4 left , Lucky me :).

Will the lvl cap goes up ? and what can you all do at lvl 60 ?
#8 Dec 05 2004 at 3:59 PM Rating: Decent
Battleground are yet to be instated, but basically, they are large PvP areas where you are fighting other people to destroy their town while defending yours. If you win, you get lots of honour (system still to be put into the game) which lets you get fun stuff.

Very high level instances (like Onyxia, which is bigger than any dragon you'll find in FFXI) for cool items that no one has ever seen yet.

Hero classes (yet to be put into the game).

PvP in general, that's what the game is designed for. Getting to cap means that everyone is on a level playing field when they start beating the crap out of each other.
#9 Dec 06 2004 at 2:56 PM Rating: Default
Though I like this game, Im not sure I will play past the month. I like the interface and seemless boundaries, but there isnt the sense of community that exists in FFXI. You don't need anyone, and they dont need you. Its hard to imagine a long lasting attraction to this game, once you've accumlated all the stuff, and have capped.
#10 Dec 06 2004 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Though I like this game, Im not sure I will play past the month. I like the interface and seemless boundaries, but there isnt the sense of community that exists in FFXI. You don't need anyone, and they dont need you. Its hard to imagine a long lasting attraction to this game, once you've accumlated all the stuff, and have capped.

Nevermind the fact that you will do more in one month of Wow than you did in the last 5 months of FFXI? Grind? Farm? Did you do some AF, sneak/invis til you found your coffer? I mean, FFXI is all good and great if you really must party to feel a part of something.

I joined a guild one of the first days in WoW and I already feel more part of a group than I did with my FFXI LS. There's really not much to be said for FFXI questing: you need AF3? Just try getting 18 people together if you don't have a tight-knit, static, group of friends or LS-mates. Want to do a Rank mission? Good luck patching that group together, regardless the times you sacrificed your hard-earned LFG time. Seriously, I was doing job unlocking quests for new players simply to have something to do!

There's so much appeal to WoW's style of character developement and the Horde vs. Alliance dichotomy, forget the plethora of quests, to keep me interested for quite a while. Anyone that says that FFXI has more quality content than WoW has already made up their mind on WoW--made up their mind that they're FFXI through and through.
#11 Dec 06 2004 at 3:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Though I like this game, Im not sure I will play past the month. I like the interface and seemless boundaries, but there isnt the sense of community that exists in FFXI. You don't need anyone, and they dont need you. Its hard to imagine a long lasting attraction to this game, once you've accumlated all the stuff, and have capped


Was there a community for you in the first 2 weeks of FFXI. There wasn't for me. And I am a very social player. Have met and become friends with a pretty sizeable amount of people in FFXI. This wasn't in the first 2 weeks though that is for sure. The guild I was in has been around since the beggining of the game release in the US. It took a year to build the massive community you see now in FFXI. They didn't build Rome in a day.


Edited, Mon Dec 6 15:15:19 2004 by Rialian
#12 Dec 06 2004 at 3:25 PM Rating: Decent
When legacy of ykeska went live in everquest, a froglok cleric was brought from lvl 1 to lvl 65 in like 3 days. These people knew what to do, where to do it, and when to move on. Thats the same case with these people who are already 40+. They're people who had huge chances because of WoWs extraoridnarily long beta to become familiar with the game. To them WoW isnt new, its closing in on a year old for them, and yet they still bought retail and haven't even seen half the content that is already installed. And then theres the stuff thats been promised.
#13 Dec 06 2004 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Sethar wrote:
They're people who had huge chances because of WoWs extraoridnarily long beta to become familiar with the game. To them WoW isnt new, its closing in on a year old for them, and yet they still bought retail...

A very poignant thought.

Edited, Mon Dec 6 15:33:05 2004 by KrycisTemp
#14 Dec 06 2004 at 3:33 PM Rating: Decent
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You don't need anyone, and they dont need you.

I'm guessing you are on a PvE server? If so, have you done any Elite Quests or maybe an Instance or two?

First, if you want stronger community, play on a PvP server. Although I've not worked my PvP character extensively (still having fun learning things on PvE) I can see the community is more important. It's not just a matter of forming a group to grind xp against mobs for hours on end... it's survival.

I'm certainly not trying to convince you one way or the other, just wanted to make sure you had the facts...

Play what you enjoy!
#15 Dec 06 2004 at 6:55 PM Rating: Good
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The community is what you make of it.

You'll only see the community if you try to be a part of it.
#16 Dec 07 2004 at 7:54 AM Rating: Decent
I think the only thing players are scared of atm is the fact that you can cap your character really quickly, and alot of players want a game they can play for a longtime. If WoW has a flaw in design this is it. Hopefully our fears will not be true, because the game is great, but just the fact that someone can hit 60 in a MMORPG after 1 weeks playtime is kinda scary, even if is it WoW and even if WoW isnt your " standard MMORPG".
#17 Dec 07 2004 at 9:21 AM Rating: Decent
I am thinking they are trying to do the same as guild wars but a little harder to cap lvl. Everyone will be at lvl 60 in a month or so. Then everyone can pvp and try to get the best equipment or play another race. I am sure hero classes will come in and you'll just get extra abillities with no stat bonus, so a person at 60 can still beat you, but you will have a upperhand with abillities. That is the only way this game will last any longer than any other non online rpg.
#18 Dec 07 2004 at 9:42 AM Rating: Default

-> You don't need anyone, and they dont need you.

If so, have you done any Elite Quests or maybe an Instance or two?


Good job on understanding my post. I've done elite quests. they are fun. You need teammates. Other people to share in the profits of the quests. They don't team up with you to do you a favor. These are all disposable allies of immediate convenience. You don't need friendships in this game. Its very chic unfriendly.

WoW is easy, accessible, and great fun for now, and if it wasn't like the way it is, I probably wouldn't have started playing it, but Im not sure if I'll keep going with it.

It's not just a matter of forming a group to grind xp against mobs for hours on end... it's survival.

The fun in ffxi has to do with finally getting somewhere when u do get a good group going. :) WoW seems more appealing and accessible, and Im spending more time with it now.
#19 Dec 07 2004 at 9:43 AM Rating: Good
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"I like the interface and seemless boundaries, but there isnt the sense of community that exists in FFXI."

Yeah, that's true. The sense of community in FFXI was awful. Everyone was at each others' throats, whether it was about race, or job, or equipment, or accidentally stealing a single mob while someone was AoE-farming. From what I hear, that just got worse and worse at endgame, when the only things people were doing were fighting JP players for HNM spawns and trying to climb to the top of their HNM linkshells' political ladders. Where's the fun or the community in that?

I stopped playing that game for good when I was getting criticized for not having items that cost 400k which brought up my Ranged Accuracy 1.5 points, despite the fact that I hit so often as it was that I had to pace myself to the point of boredom when I was EXP'ing in parties. FFXI pushed players to such rediculous levels of unnecessary competition that it destroyed any hope of any chance of having any sort of a sense of community.

I miss the people in my linkshell, and I rarely played with them. I just liked them because they were cool people outside of the game. I really, honestly, think that FFXI is a poorly-designed game, with a pretty awful group of people playing it, and I'm glad that I quit when I did.

No one ever, ever, ever needs a Scorpion Harness.

<3 WoW.
#20 Dec 07 2004 at 9:45 AM Rating: Default
I'm only level 21 and have played everyday since release, I do other stuff other than just level though, I work up my tradeskills, and try to get money.

For being level 21 though, I have a total time of like 1 day and 10 hours I think

Highest player on my server is about 50-55, and he does play alot, in fact, I have never seen a time yet where he wasn't online

Edited, Tue Dec 7 09:48:28 2004 by GaMeSTa
#21 Dec 07 2004 at 9:47 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm really gonna have to check my playtime, its either 2days and a half or 3 days, and im only 25.
#22 Dec 07 2004 at 11:44 AM Rating: Default
I probably won't play much ffxi when I hit 75 there either. But I don't level rabidly in ffxi. WoW, all there is to do is XP. Sure I craft. It doesn't get in the way. Pads my bank account.

Money comes in very easily if you do most quests, even if they are below your level, and you hope they will be quick. You don't need to be very creative in making money, and there is hardly anything you need to buy. Its a fine game as is. Diablo with a crappy camera angle :) Diablo was a great game, but I didn't play it that long either.
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