Being in beta gave me a small advantage it let me know where a good majority of mobs and items for quest were, which makes it easier for me to level. Had I really tried I’d probably have a mount now, but I wanted to play with my best friend, so we have been a constant party together for the entire retail time, we are both the same level, we party together every day, and it is more fun then just super leveling.
Yesterday we went to do the raptor quest in wetlands, we could do the first part but discovered we could not do the other quest there because they mobs were too hard at lvl 24, so we went to Duskwood to do some leveling/questing in a new place neither of us had really explored, and got to lvl 27, today we worked hard in Blackfathoms (just the two of us) and got to lvl 28, and then went to finish the three raptor quest (kill so and so many of the raptors in the excavation area, find relics, and kill sarltooth).
Some random person came up and asked for help killing the raptors, I agreed but told him we were almost done, we killed a bunch of extras to try and help him he left and we went to get our other quest for the raptors. He ask for help with Sarltooth, he is level 24. I kindly tell him he should level a bit because he is level 24 and Sarltooth is lvl 29.
We then finish the relic quest and go to kill Sarltooth, he starts whining in General because we didn’t invite him to help.
There were many key reasons for this.
A) When we were doing the raptors to help him I didn’t see him once around anything we killed, I believe he was sitting in the back soaking in the numbers. I do not know this person, it is to me like sitting and soaking exp in a party in FFXI, not cool.
B) I wanted to play with my friend, not him.
C) We spent all day and morning getting our level up to do the quest, he is level 24, and played his job very poorly at that IMO. To me it seemed like helping a newbie level faster when what he needs to be doing is learning how to play his character’s abilities.
It seemed cheating to me to help him get something we busted our butts for. But some people seemed to get miffed over my decision, so what do you think? Was I wrong?
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Well, really, 5 levels below for a single "boss" mob really isn't too low. Me and two others were 20-21 and took on a 27 boss mob for a quest very easily. Quest was red for the three of us, and we owned it. I've soloed quite a few orange quests.
If he wasn't pulling his weight, fine. But if he was doing everything he could, I wouldn't agree on you kicking him because of his level. The levels Blizzard gives are quite generous, the quests are all completeable much sooner.
So no, since he wasn't doing anything, you weren't wrong. But if he had been doing his best, I would look down on you kicking him just because he was a few levels too low.
The default /who range is like 7 levels, isn't it? Blizzard didn't intend for WoW to only have a 3 level spread for groups, but a much larger one. The way the game works is very different from FFXI, where anymore than 3 levels spread can seriously fu[/b]ck shi[b]t up, but in WoW 7 levels is fine.
If he wasn't pulling his weight, fine. But if he was doing everything he could, I wouldn't agree on you kicking him because of his level. The levels Blizzard gives are quite generous, the quests are all completeable much sooner.
So no, since he wasn't doing anything, you weren't wrong. But if he had been doing his best, I would look down on you kicking him just because he was a few levels too low.
The default /who range is like 7 levels, isn't it? Blizzard didn't intend for WoW to only have a 3 level spread for groups, but a much larger one. The way the game works is very different from FFXI, where anymore than 3 levels spread can seriously fu[/b]ck shi[b]t up, but in WoW 7 levels is fine.
Its your choice who's in your group. If he's a leech i woulda dumped him too.
I applaud you. One of my friends is testing the game out, and while the hours are awkward since he has alot of free time during the day and I don't we only do quests and xp when we are both there.
It really makes it all alot more fun. I think it took me 2 real days of playing (as there were 2 that I didn't play for more then an hour or two) and got to 17-18. We currently have been bouncing around servers and classes. So far it looks like he is going Troll Warrior because he wants to recreate the Troll Axe Throwers from old school Warcraft. I am deciding between Mage or Warlock, maybe my mind will change again who knows. We were on a couple of Low Pop servers experimenting, and now are on a Medium Pop server to play for real. It will be fun every step of the way i'm sure.
A) Agreed, before my friend got his copy I had something similar happen. It was a quest for Ratchet where you steal the Sampholange (sp?). A guy asked if I wanted to party and I said sure, we were at the wrong spot until a guy nicely informed me we were when he asked what quest I was doing. _I_ found the real spot, and when I did my party member was no where in sight. I had died twice trying to start this thing, and since I wasn't sure if it would give him credit when _I_ did what was required and he was in Orgimmar (when I decided to see where he was) I kicked him and did it solo.
B) *Applauds*
C) I aggree completely. Sounds like he did next to nothing (which was what he was trying for probably), and because of that he deserved NOTHING. You only gave him his due rewards.
If he truly wasn't helping any during the raptors the only wrong you did was letting it get to you.
It really makes it all alot more fun. I think it took me 2 real days of playing (as there were 2 that I didn't play for more then an hour or two) and got to 17-18. We currently have been bouncing around servers and classes. So far it looks like he is going Troll Warrior because he wants to recreate the Troll Axe Throwers from old school Warcraft. I am deciding between Mage or Warlock, maybe my mind will change again who knows. We were on a couple of Low Pop servers experimenting, and now are on a Medium Pop server to play for real. It will be fun every step of the way i'm sure.
A) Agreed, before my friend got his copy I had something similar happen. It was a quest for Ratchet where you steal the Sampholange (sp?). A guy asked if I wanted to party and I said sure, we were at the wrong spot until a guy nicely informed me we were when he asked what quest I was doing. _I_ found the real spot, and when I did my party member was no where in sight. I had died twice trying to start this thing, and since I wasn't sure if it would give him credit when _I_ did what was required and he was in Orgimmar (when I decided to see where he was) I kicked him and did it solo.
B) *Applauds*
C) I aggree completely. Sounds like he did next to nothing (which was what he was trying for probably), and because of that he deserved NOTHING. You only gave him his due rewards.
If he truly wasn't helping any during the raptors the only wrong you did was letting it get to you.
I wouldnt feel guilty. You dont need any reason at all to refuse someone into your group, its your group, your time, your rules. In this case you had grouped with him before and felt he was leeching, so even less reason to group with him again. IMHO you fulfilled your own moral obligation by at least being polite to him, but you certainly have no obligation to help him through the game. That part is entirely up to you.
I'm sure if he tried to pull his weight in your previous group, you probably would have helped him. Thats the impression i get of the kind of person you are. Dont beat yourself up over it, you gave him a chance, he proved himself unworthy. Forget it and move on :)
I'm sure if he tried to pull his weight in your previous group, you probably would have helped him. Thats the impression i get of the kind of person you are. Dont beat yourself up over it, you gave him a chance, he proved himself unworthy. Forget it and move on :)
I dont have any problem with what you did.
Helping somebody (like you did) is nice, and i try to whenever I can, But you should never feel obligated to. (Unless you actually are obligated to...)
Helping somebody (like you did) is nice, and i try to whenever I can, But you should never feel obligated to. (Unless you actually are obligated to...)
I find it's best not to let minor in-game quibbles bother you to the point that you post a thread about it.
Once you log out, just leave it all behind, all will be forgotten and forgiven by tomorrow.
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No, you were not wrong. Why would you be wrong for playing the game the way you wanted to play it? It is not like you harmed him in any way, you simply wanted to group with your friend and not him. That is perfectly acceptible. There is no rule that you have to group with someone else just because they think you should. No one is owed anything. If he had helped you accomplish something that you could not have done on your own then maybe out of debt you could have let him help you.
I think what people miss in the MMO community is respect amd earning respect. He could have been polite and respected your wishes and been appreciative of the time together. If he had, maybe next time he needed help you would have been there for him...now, I doubt you would help him.
Grouping and fellowshipping in the game is not different than in real life in many ways. You do have to actually like the person to enjoy their company. And often, even in real life, you would prefer to hang with one friend over another...that is not too hard to understand.
So, no you were not wrong. For him to bash you for deciding to do some things with your friend over him...well, he was wrong.
Edited, Fri Dec 3 13:08:31 2004 by lhuffman
I think what people miss in the MMO community is respect amd earning respect. He could have been polite and respected your wishes and been appreciative of the time together. If he had, maybe next time he needed help you would have been there for him...now, I doubt you would help him.
Grouping and fellowshipping in the game is not different than in real life in many ways. You do have to actually like the person to enjoy their company. And often, even in real life, you would prefer to hang with one friend over another...that is not too hard to understand.
So, no you were not wrong. For him to bash you for deciding to do some things with your friend over him...well, he was wrong.
Edited, Fri Dec 3 13:08:31 2004 by lhuffman
B) I wanted to play with my friend, not him.
I think this is the most important one. WoW seems to have a pretty friendly community in general, but that by no means places you under any sort of obligation to help anyone else. Don't feel bad about having your own fun just because some whiny little kid was ******** about you over General chat. It's not as if you were the last person on earth that could help him out.
I think this is the most important one. WoW seems to have a pretty friendly community in general, but that by no means places you under any sort of obligation to help anyone else. Don't feel bad about having your own fun just because some whiny little kid was ******** about you over General chat. It's not as if you were the last person on earth that could help him out.
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B) I wanted to play with my friend, not him.
I think this is the most important one. WoW seems to have a pretty friendly community in general, but that by no means places you under any sort of obligation to help anyone else. Don't feel bad about having your own fun just because some whiny little kid was ******** about you over General chat. It's not as if you were the last person on earth that could help him out.
I think this is the most important one. WoW seems to have a pretty friendly community in general, but that by no means places you under any sort of obligation to help anyone else. Don't feel bad about having your own fun just because some whiny little kid was ******** about you over General chat. It's not as if you were the last person on earth that could help him out.
Exactly! It's a game. Play it and maximize your fun.
I think you were completely in the right to do what you did. That's your time, not his. That's really all that needs to be said.
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