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#1 Dec 01 2004 at 8:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey, I just bought the game today and I'm trying uninstall FFXI right now >.> Anyways, I have a lot of questions about the game so I can get a good idea of how it works.

1. How does the hate system work in the game?
2. Is gear extremely important like in FFXI?
3. Is it easier or harder to get around places and get used to it?
4. Are there any HNMs? Like a WoW version of Kirin and the gods?
5. Are there NMs at all? (I hope not... camping is ridiculous)
6. Are there linkshells?
7. Is crafting a great way to make money like in FFXI? or is it just a nice thing to have? kinda like cooking.
8. How often do you interact with other people? Besides PvP

I would REALLY appreciate any answers at all =)

Thanks in advance.
#2 Dec 01 2004 at 8:59 PM Rating: Default
Ummm, Id Like To Help You.. But Ive Already Typed Responses To These Questions Aroun 800000 times.... So, I Say To You Find A Good FFXI Vs WoW Thread... There Quite A Few In Here...
#3REDACTED, Posted: Dec 01 2004 at 9:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Why do you Talk Like This? Or Enter Words Like This? LOL and I get bashed on for saying there.
#4 Dec 01 2004 at 9:13 PM Rating: Decent
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OK I don't know all FFXI but as a lvl 56 BLM I got around a bit and am curently a lvl 18 mage on WoW so here's my take on it.

1. Hate - The player that deals the most damage seem's to get the most hate, this varies at times, but thus far I haven't had any OMGGETITOFFMETANKB4IDIE!!!111!!!1 problems. Hate seems to bounce around alot easier than in FFXI.

2. Gear as in every MMORPG is important, but alot easier to come by in WoW, thus far I have pretty good gear from just getting it off drops an doign some pretty easy quests.

3. Travel is ALOT easier, I have been all over the place at lvl 18 and seen some awesome zones, course I still die here an there but it's easier by far.

4. Dunno about HNM's but there are what are called elite's, and they vary in level some are easy, some are uber hard.

5. Like stated above, they are called Elite's and most dungeons have what's called an instance so that only you and your party can get into it without having other peopel interfere. So camping thus far isn't a problem.

6. Linkshell works in guild form, if you are in a guild you can talk in guild chat. Also the friends list is much faster and user friendly in WoW.

7. Crafting is a good way to make money, I have had 0 money issues up to lvl 18 from drops and fishing and tailoring. I can't say that about FFXI at even that low of a level.

8. I play with others all the time, I'll be in a zone doing a quest and see someone else there about the same level so we team up and do the quest together. If I need help doing something I give a yell and have it almost instantly.

Hope that helps :)
#5 Dec 01 2004 at 9:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Ummm, Id Like To Help You.. But Ive Already Typed Responses To These Questions Aroun 800000 times....

Sorry to say but there has to be a loser in every post this quote came from someone who has under 60 posts total,
Every post i look through has atleast 1 idiot in it saying something totally ridiculous thats not even on the topic.. if your sick of seeing these posts then dont post in them and they will just fade down the list.
Back to the topic all that was needed to be said is ..
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Find A Good FFXI Vs WoW Thread... There Quite A Few In Here...
#6 Dec 01 2004 at 9:17 PM Rating: Good
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1) It's similar to FFXI. I don't know the specifics, but there are taunts and such to keep hate on specific people. You can also get hate by doing alot of damage.

2) Gear isn't as important as FFXI. There is alot more gear to choose from in WoW. Gear will always be important to a point, but it won't make you or break you like it will in FFXI.

3) Much, much easier.

4) There are Elite monsters. I don't know if you can compare them to HNM. There is Onyxia, which I suppose you could call an HNM.

5) There are elite mobs that drop good loot. Most of the good loot is in instance dungeons. When you enter it, you enter your own version. Another party enters the dungeon, they're in another version of the same dungeon. This way, everyone gets a shot at the elite mob and the drop and there is no way to camp. Also, good items will randomly drop from all other monsters.

6) There are guilds, essentially the same thing.

7) Crafting is much better in WoW. It's much easier, there are no failures. And you can use the items you make at your level. You won't be supplying lower level people and hoping to make money so you can buy your equipment. I haven't bought a single piece of armor. I make and use my own.

8) All the time. There are pick-up groups, where people work on a quest together. There are guilds. There are groups that get together for instances.
#7 Dec 01 2004 at 9:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for all the help. As soon as I get used to the game and understand it more, I'll be able to help answer the questions too =)
#8 Dec 02 2004 at 1:05 AM Rating: Decent
I don't know if I buy that about gear. If you read "All about raids" in the WoW official website, gear WILL play an important factor according to the the progressive raid system. If you don't get your guild equipped with the proper equipment from one raid, you will not be able to progress on to another raid. GEAR I feel, matters in this game more, you just have to earn it..not farm for it...
#9 Dec 02 2004 at 3:31 AM Rating: Default
Geez, Seems Like Everyone Wants To Take Shots At Me Today...

EricGraham, I Type Like This Because I Like It... I Know Its Not Correct, But I Dont Care, Do You Really?? *shrug*

Lafarga... I Simply Put That In Because I Was Trying To Direct Him To Another Thread To Get The Information He Wanted, And Simply Didnt Want To Type It Out Again... Now Obviousley 800000 Is An Exageration, It Was Meant To Be So... And As For More Under 60 Post Count... Im SO SORRY Not To Have The Uber Pwnzor Post Count Of 7!

/sigh
#10 Dec 02 2004 at 5:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Just another note about the gear question..

Since tradeskills (called professions in WoW) are so easy to get into and learn, you'll find that you'll be making alot of your own equipment even at low levels and often the stuff you make is better than what the local vendors are selling at similar levels.

My Tauren Hunter has Skinning and Leatherworking and I've been able to keep making myself better and better armor as I level, and making some nice money on the side by selling armor that I craft to the Auction House. :)
#11 Dec 02 2004 at 5:30 AM Rating: Default
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Well, im glad IamRolland likes to impersinate wounded army officers.
#12 Dec 02 2004 at 5:40 AM Rating: Default
Ummm? Excuse Me VK? Thats Uncalled For

Just Because I Dont Like To Spell Out My Problems Every Friggin Time It Comes Up Doesnt Mean Im Impersonating Anyone.

I Just Thought Id Post It Because People Seem To Be Making More And More Of An Issue Of It.

*sigh* As Much As Everyone Complains About The Blizzard Forums Here Alot Of Posters Really Remind Me Of It.
#13 Dec 02 2004 at 5:47 AM Rating: Default
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Well, "I like it" and "It helps me type" are slightly different things, you dont have to make a long summary of why you type like that, its just easier on you to say a simple "it helps me" instead of saying "I like it and you shouldnt care."
#14 Dec 02 2004 at 5:49 AM Rating: Decent
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1) Yeah, how does tanking and whatnot work in this game? I keep dying from heal aggro and I was beginning to suspect that Warriors don't have any taunts. >.>

And to IamRolland, He Is Not Asking For A Review Of WoW Like Those Other Threads Are. These Are Very Specific Questions Concerning Game Mechanics. Reading Comprehension 4TW!
#15 Dec 02 2004 at 5:55 AM Rating: Default
Well I Never Told Anybody What They Should Or Shouldnt Care About
I Simply Asked If He Does.

And Im Sorry VK But Im A Little Sensitive About It *shrug*

And I Wasnt Bashing The OP In Any Form... People -KNOW- When Im Flaming Somebody.
#16 Dec 02 2004 at 11:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Geez, Seems Like Everyone Wants To Take Shots At Me Today...

EricGraham, I Type Like This Because I Like It... I Know Its Not Correct, But I Dont Care, Do You Really?? *shrug*

Lafarga... I Simply Put That In Because I Was Trying To Direct Him To Another Thread To Get The Information He Wanted, And Simply Didnt Want To Type It Out Again... Now Obviousley 800000 Is An Exageration, It Was Meant To Be So... And As For More Under 60 Post Count... Im SO SORRY Not To Have The Uber Pwnzor Post Count Of 7!

/sigh


I agree with what was said above. If you simply wanted to redirect him/her to another thread, you could have done so without the negative "b-net kiddie" attitude. That sort of behavior is reserved for the official forums. Please go there.

Edited, Thu Dec 2 11:35:24 2004 by mrbluesdude
#17 Dec 02 2004 at 2:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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1. How does the hate system work in the game?


Coming from a heavy tanking background in FFXI, hate in WoW was something of a shock. It's not as focused as in FFXI and bounces around a lot lot more. Generally, damage is a good way to get hate, a little more than in FFXI (blm does a few k MB and mob doesn't flinch from pld). Hate in WoW is slightly shakier than in FFXI where no one other than the pld gets touched for 7 hours of exp.

Also in FFXI, if your party or character has claim you get a boost on the mob's enmity list (why a level 5 character being power levelled will still get hate while being plvlled). Over here there's no such thing because there is no claiming system.

Cure hate is much less potent in WoW than in FFXI. I heal my party members for half their life and still don't get hate; if I did the same thing in FFXI I could probably hold off quite a bit.

FFXI also has 2 kinds of hate, spiked hate (increases quickly, deteriorates quickly too), and consistent hate (increases more steadily, takes longer to deterioriate). Up to this point I don't know or think that WoW has a similar system; I have no idea about hate decay in WoW yet.

In FFXI, the more you hit the enemy (excluding the amount of damage taken), the more hate you had. Basically, every hit added a certain amount of hate, no matter if it was hitting for less than someone hitting more with a longer delay weapon (why tanks in FFXI generally use 1 handed weapons, to ensure shorter delay and more hate). In WoW, however, it seems to be the opposite -- where the total damage taken has more influence on hate than the number of actions done to the mob.
#18 Dec 02 2004 at 2:59 PM Rating: Decent
*sigh* Fine, Seeing As Im Taking Alot Of Unwarranted Shots To My Rating Ill Relent.

I Already Explained I Didnt Mean To Offend Anyone.
My "B-Net Kiddie Attitude" Isnt Such At All I Was Trying To Be Amusing. Apparently You Didnt All Didnt Find It As Such *shrug* To Each Theyre Own.

Yet People Still Wanna Get Theyre Rate Down In Just For Its Own Sake.

Im Sure Ill Even Be Rated Down For This, So Enjoy Yourself If It Makes You Feel Important.
#19 Dec 02 2004 at 7:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the reply Whren, it really helped me understand it more... Too bad tanks don't have voke or flash and stuff like that.
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