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Hmm, Bow, Gun, or does it matter?Follow

#1 Nov 29 2004 at 7:16 PM Rating: Decent
Just curious what other hunters use, and their reasoning for it. I can't find any reason to sway one way or the other, except for which you started with depending on race.
#2 Nov 29 2004 at 9:37 PM Rating: Default
gun = more dps / more gun. since right now gun can be made by ppl it seem to have better dps and over all better gun drop.

sorry to say this has been proved in the forum... you just have to go and find it if you don't belive me :D

if you have enginer you will make the nice gun, bullet and scope(works on bow too).


bow = less sound... some find that helpful. but there is no way to make bow and arrow for now.



but over all it's your look. do what you want to do...

oh btw you can have only one ammo bag. so it will be hard to level both gun and bow.
#3 Nov 29 2004 at 9:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Only reason I like gun so much is because of the echoing bang. Oh, and shooting those harmless things.
#4 Nov 29 2004 at 10:24 PM Rating: Decent
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From a RL point of view, I can't imagine why a bow would do more damage than a gun...
#5 Nov 29 2004 at 10:28 PM Rating: Good
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I was a NE Hunter in OB (with Bow).

I'm a Tauren Hunter now (with Gun).

I like the gun better. It's slower, but it's got a longer range and does more damage.
#6 Nov 29 2004 at 10:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Do like me. Use one until you find a weapon that is better and then use it for a while. If you are at a level where the best weapon you can find is a bow and you don't have bows trained you won't be too happy. =)

I keep my extra ammo bag in the bank when I switch, so it's not that hard. Also, I think that you can carry more arrows than bullets, at least where I'm at.
#7 Nov 30 2004 at 11:40 AM Rating: Good
Go gun, for one reason... Shooting things in the back as they try to run away. It's so satisfying.
#8 Nov 30 2004 at 11:46 AM Rating: Good
Gun is the right choice. Nothing like that 'bang bang' sound echoing while your pet is pulverizing some poor mob. And then when the human that you are shooting runs away and you shoot them in the back and they crumple into a bleeding mound of spent flesh...knowing in their dying moment that they were killed by a gun wielding cow and his pet raptor...mwahahaha.
#9 Nov 30 2004 at 1:11 PM Rating: Decent
ketsugi wrote:
From a RL point of view, I can't imagine why a bow would do more damage than a gun...


Damage caused by a bullet and/or arrow comes in two types, kinetic energy transfer (impact) and ripping/tearing.

Kinetic energy transfer is easily calculatable and is directly related to mass and velocity - as you increase either, the amount of kinetic transfer increases.

Get an arrow and a bullet and weight them and see which one weighs more. Go to a shooting range and use a chronograph to time the muzzle velocity of a bullet vs. that of an arrow. Then do the math.

You'll find that at short range, an arrow can do significantly more damage than a bullet due to it's significantly greater mass. At long ranges, the air resistance reduces the speed of an arrow enough that it's kinetic energy drops, but it's capability for ripping/tearing (especially with a broadhead razor tip) is much higher.

With sufficient muzzle velocity, a bullet can pass right through a target, while an arrow tends to embed itself and continue to cause damage as the target moves around.

Arrows also are much quieter, which doesn't seem to matter much in the game.
#10 Nov 30 2004 at 1:22 PM Rating: Decent
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oh btw you can have only one ammo bag. so it will be hard to level both gun and bow


Actually I have had both a ammo bag and quiver equiped in my bag slots at the same time both full. I was alternating between Gun and Bow until I got a few more bags and needed the space. Then I just set up arrows in my bag slower but still works the same.
#11 Nov 30 2004 at 2:55 PM Rating: Default
how you have more then 1 ammo bag? I mean it will not let you...
-_-;;

or you mean you have 2 bag (normal item bag) with both arrow and bullets?

btw... I disslike having ammo bag :D I find that I find to may item i need :D and i need all the space i can get.
#12 Nov 30 2004 at 3:05 PM Rating: Decent
One Quiver, one Shot Pouch. I'll probably keep my gun skill up, but for no my bow is more powerful than any gun I've been able to find. (Nice fat 7.0dps, closest gun was 5.8dps) I'll look up the rare bows/guns later from the Thottbot pages and see what I can look forward depending on my choice of mainstay weapon.
#13 Nov 30 2004 at 3:07 PM Rating: Default
ah so you can have a gun ammo and bow ammo...

-_-;; mabe since i was trying to do 2 gun ammo bag...


booooooo

no biggy wanted to see if the 13% speed would add to each other if i had 2 of them... so i tryed but i never could put it on the bag slot -_-;; boooooo

:D

I need a scope :D
#14 Nov 30 2004 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
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What exactly dose a scope doo..
#15 Nov 30 2004 at 3:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Scopes add to weapon damage.
#16 Nov 30 2004 at 7:44 PM Rating: Decent
Im getting WOW as soon as I can find a copy (sold out everywhere by me) and I have been complating for a long time what character I would start out with, ive pretty much narrowed it to Dwarf hunter... NE hunter... Human mage... (now that i thnk about it im still stuck...) anyway, is there much of a difference between which race you are as a hunter? do dwarfs use guns better? are NE's overall better hunters? apologies for the long post
#17 Nov 30 2004 at 8:41 PM Rating: Decent
The only dfference between races is Tauren and Dwarf start with guns and the rest start with bow.
#18 Nov 30 2004 at 9:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Right now some of the best weapons are guns and also the top ammo is for guns. Blizzard seems to have snubbed bows a bit, but let me make a prediction. They will overbuff bows and crossbows when they finally get around to including craftable arrows or better end game bow ammo. At this point people will begin switching to those weapons.
#19 Dec 01 2004 at 5:25 AM Rating: Decent
THIS-IS-MY-BOOMSTICK!

Nuf' Said..
#20 Dec 01 2004 at 8:07 AM Rating: Decent
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do dwarfs use guns better?


Dwarves do have a gun specialization as a racial ability. They recieve +5 to gun skill. As for the other races, in terms of ranged combat i do not believe they get any extra abilities.


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THIS-IS-MY-BOOMSTICK!

Nuf' Said.


Everytime I am south of Kharanos (sp?) If these guys are at the post shooting targets we stop and cheer and laugh and /v fire every chance we get. I come from FFXI so I have a good time with things like that.

#21 Dec 01 2004 at 10:06 AM Rating: Decent
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I use a gun called a privateer musket I got from doing the guns of northwatch quest and it has something like 14 dps and i haven't seen a bow close to that at all. Plus it juust looks so damn cool.
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#22 Dec 02 2004 at 5:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Allow me to offer a counterpoint.

There are many good bows in the game. While it's true that guns, on average, offer a slightly higher DPS rating than similarly-leveled bows, the bows have a different advantage: Speed. Many people who have played Everquest to high levels can tell you that DPS is not the be-all, end-all of weapon choice (although there are many who ONLY look at DPS, I'm sure).

Speed is not something that should be dismissed as unimportant. A weapon that hits more often has more chances for critical hits; it also disrupts spells more effectively, making for easier fights against magic-using foes (especially important in PvP).

I suspect that in time, there will be more bow-users as people learn the strengths and weaknesses of both. Choose what you feel suits your character best - my Dwarven Hunter in Beta (rest his binary soul) would never think about picking up a twig with string on it; my Night Elf Hunter now would wrinkle his nose and edge away from you if you suggested using such a loud, stinky, slow weapon as a gun.
#23 Dec 02 2004 at 5:53 AM Rating: Decent
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True, Thus why I hate my staff on my priest, all I want is one last blow...but nuuuuuu...oh right topic..nevermind.
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