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I'm currently playing FFXI and have done for quite a while before this I played DOAC and Neocron in both DOAC and Neocron I had capped players and elite stuff on them but found I got bored with only repetitive stuff left to do. Anyways I was talking to friend (who I believe to bias) and he compared WoW to the same form of MMORPG as DOAC and Neocron Is this true and if there are any old players from FFXI out there "what do you think of WoW".
Should I buy the game I must admit I like FFXI even though it has no PvP but I don’t want to venture into another DOAC/Neocron
Could I please have some input?
Thanks
Other people that I know said WoW is the way to go. They said they have played FFXI before and said WoW is better then FFXI.
Look, there are a plethora of WoW vs FFXI threads out there that go in depth, so I'll sum up (from my point of view anyway).
There are a few good things about FFXI. I enjoyed my LS and the special events at holidy times. Other than that.... Forced grouping, a screwed up economy, gil sellers and bots, fighting the same blue crab for 40 levels, etc.
Granted, WoW is only about a week old so it is yet to be seen how the economy will do but with the way items bind to characters and instanced dungeons at least you won't have to fight the gil sellers to get a NM drop. Especially on PVP servers where players could just gank gil sellers.
Anyway, there are a lot of different mobs in WoW and cloaks, belts, and arm bracers all show up on your character, in addition to the armor you're used to from FFXI, so you have a higher level of customability. And you aren't forced to group in WoW. It is possible to level solo indeffinitely as far as I know.
The only negative I've seen in WoW so far is that the fact that you can solo is being seen as a mandate to solo by some. But, I'm sure once I get into a good guild this problem will fade away for me.
In WoW each race (gnomes and trolls being the exceptions) starts in a different area with a different story so there are ways to shake your game play up if you get tired of playing with a high level character. And the quest system gives you a sense of accomplishment even at low levels.
So that's it. With the way you say you get bored with repetition I'm surprised FFXI hasn't driven you crazy already. Leveling mulitple jobs and sub jobs through the same areas and fighting the same mobs over and over....
There are a few good things about FFXI. I enjoyed my LS and the special events at holidy times. Other than that.... Forced grouping, a screwed up economy, gil sellers and bots, fighting the same blue crab for 40 levels, etc.
Granted, WoW is only about a week old so it is yet to be seen how the economy will do but with the way items bind to characters and instanced dungeons at least you won't have to fight the gil sellers to get a NM drop. Especially on PVP servers where players could just gank gil sellers.
Anyway, there are a lot of different mobs in WoW and cloaks, belts, and arm bracers all show up on your character, in addition to the armor you're used to from FFXI, so you have a higher level of customability. And you aren't forced to group in WoW. It is possible to level solo indeffinitely as far as I know.
The only negative I've seen in WoW so far is that the fact that you can solo is being seen as a mandate to solo by some. But, I'm sure once I get into a good guild this problem will fade away for me.
In WoW each race (gnomes and trolls being the exceptions) starts in a different area with a different story so there are ways to shake your game play up if you get tired of playing with a high level character. And the quest system gives you a sense of accomplishment even at low levels.
So that's it. With the way you say you get bored with repetition I'm surprised FFXI hasn't driven you crazy already. Leveling mulitple jobs and sub jobs through the same areas and fighting the same mobs over and over....
id like to thank Phineas for pointing out the key points, but honestly id would be nice if you read forums before you posted on them. I know it may not be your fault and you may have posted this as soon as you reach these forums, but there are honestly too many threads about it.
Im sure you didnt mean to do this, just for future reference scrolling to at least page 3 and reading thread titles would be nice before you posted.
The I converted from FFXI thread.
http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=21&mid=1101164200951355921&num=113
-Thank you sorry for the semi-rant.
Edit* Found the Thread
Edited, Mon Nov 29 09:00:45 2004 by Eireann
Im sure you didnt mean to do this, just for future reference scrolling to at least page 3 and reading thread titles would be nice before you posted.
The I converted from FFXI thread.
http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=21&mid=1101164200951355921&num=113
-Thank you sorry for the semi-rant.
Edit* Found the Thread
Edited, Mon Nov 29 09:00:45 2004 by Eireann
One part of me hates FFXI, the other loves it. I decided I would go back to FFXI if WoW wasnt so hot. But, somehow, WoW makes the game interesting for long periods of time. Possibly the first MMORPG I could pay to play for, over three months :D
I am neither a Blizzard, or Final Fantasy fan, I just want a good game. Even though you dont know who I am, I believe you should take my word for it
I am critic and do not favor either side 
World of Warcraft disguises the fact that you are grinding with fun, and sometimes interesting, quests that let you choose awards to satisfy you. With FFXI, even as a Bard/White Mage, it was too much trouble to find parties. Even when you did find parties, players always got eachother killed and it was not always the best exp to fit your time schedule. Somehow, I always tried to avoid as many quests in FFXI as possible. Now, isnt a major factor of an MMORPG to have fun doing quests?
I have played Warcraft III and a few Final Fantasy games in the past, but I never got the sense of being able to roam freely in the world of Final Fantasy. If you have played Warcraft III, World of Warcraft gives you that feeling. I find it entertaining when you come across areas, monuments, and NPC's that you may have come across from the Warcraft games.
Neither FFXI or WoW have in-depth character customization, but there is such a large array of equipment in WoW that not very many people look exactly alike. In other words, your equipment is your customization. In FFXI everyone seemed to look alike, that was not very entertaining to look at.
Aside from the parties, there was always one major thing that really got on my nerves with FFXI. I felt like I was travelling 90% of the time. I do not know how much fun you think it is to ride a giant chicken, but I got really sick of sitting on that bird listening to kindergarten music, which is why most people turned the music off. Standing on an airship in a room full of uncomfortable () silence is not what I would call fun. Luckily, WoW makes travelling very easy and less tedious for you, even from level one.
I realize I sound very one-sided, but I do miss that little ******* Tarutaru with his customized hammer time dance
But, I enjoy doing fun and innovative quests with sexy item and exp rewards, which could be a major factor with my state of mind.
PhineasPoe and Eireann, you must also remember that these topics get drowned out by others very quickly. At any rate, I am always happy to convert players from FFXI to a much more entertaining game to waste money on
Edited, Mon Nov 29 09:13:15 2004 by Civilz
I am neither a Blizzard, or Final Fantasy fan, I just want a good game. Even though you dont know who I am, I believe you should take my word for it
I am critic and do not favor either side 
World of Warcraft disguises the fact that you are grinding with fun, and sometimes interesting, quests that let you choose awards to satisfy you. With FFXI, even as a Bard/White Mage, it was too much trouble to find parties. Even when you did find parties, players always got eachother killed and it was not always the best exp to fit your time schedule. Somehow, I always tried to avoid as many quests in FFXI as possible. Now, isnt a major factor of an MMORPG to have fun doing quests?
I have played Warcraft III and a few Final Fantasy games in the past, but I never got the sense of being able to roam freely in the world of Final Fantasy. If you have played Warcraft III, World of Warcraft gives you that feeling. I find it entertaining when you come across areas, monuments, and NPC's that you may have come across from the Warcraft games.
Neither FFXI or WoW have in-depth character customization, but there is such a large array of equipment in WoW that not very many people look exactly alike. In other words, your equipment is your customization. In FFXI everyone seemed to look alike, that was not very entertaining to look at.
Aside from the parties, there was always one major thing that really got on my nerves with FFXI. I felt like I was travelling 90% of the time. I do not know how much fun you think it is to ride a giant chicken, but I got really sick of sitting on that bird listening to kindergarten music, which is why most people turned the music off. Standing on an airship in a room full of uncomfortable (
) silence is not what I would call fun. Luckily, WoW makes travelling very easy and less tedious for you, even from level one. I realize I sound very one-sided, but I do miss that little ******* Tarutaru with his customized hammer time dance
But, I enjoy doing fun and innovative quests with sexy item and exp rewards, which could be a major factor with my state of mind. PhineasPoe and Eireann, you must also remember that these topics get drowned out by others very quickly. At any rate, I am always happy to convert players from FFXI to a much more entertaining game to waste money on
Edited, Mon Nov 29 09:13:15 2004 by Civilz
Thank you PhineasPoe / Overlord Civilz
Some questions answered for me there i'm sorry I didn’t look for the threads about FFXI/WoW
Now that one called to my heart :)
Ok I think I will try WoW for myself and see what its all about!
Thanks Again
Edited, Mon Nov 29 09:16:15 2004 by mansurii
Some questions answered for me there i'm sorry I didn’t look for the threads about FFXI/WoW
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Especially on PVP servers where players could just gank gil sellers.
Now that one called to my heart :)
Ok I think I will try WoW for myself and see what its all about!
Thanks Again
Edited, Mon Nov 29 09:16:15 2004 by mansurii
the only rant I have about WoW at this point is the mailbox system. It takes an hour to get anything delivered to you. In FFXI it's pretty much instantaneous.
Only gripe I have thus far.
Only gripe I have thus far.
Yes thats true, it really only ticks me off with the Auction House though
Yeh i thought the Auction House was like a bowling alley vending machine or something...Just eats up my money...well a day later i check mailbox just for the hell of it and got 20 rough stones...meh people need to know that things arent instantaneous...
I understand that threads get pushed down, that's why I actually answered his question. But I answered it a lot more briefly than some of my earlier posts about what is wrong with FFXI, thus the "suming up" comment.
I haven't used the mailbox yet so I can't really comment, though I understand it costs monney to send things which kinda sucks when trading things between your characters. I think I'd rather just use the bank (which is a nice touch) than have a mule.
Civilz is right about character customization, EQ 2 has much more initially. But the way ALL your armor shows up on your character is very nice plus all the "casual" clothes like a tux that canbe worn. The armor you have really is how you customize your charcter.
And I know it's kind of a triviality, but the ability to jump is cool.
I haven't used the mailbox yet so I can't really comment, though I understand it costs monney to send things which kinda sucks when trading things between your characters. I think I'd rather just use the bank (which is a nice touch) than have a mule.
Civilz is right about character customization, EQ 2 has much more initially. But the way ALL your armor shows up on your character is very nice plus all the "casual" clothes like a tux that canbe worn. The armor you have really is how you customize your charcter.
And I know it's kind of a triviality, but the ability to jump is cool.
well probably one of the reasons its slow right now is the mass people on there, the servers are jam packed so hopfully when every thing stabalizes that wont be an issue, so far i personaly have no probs with wow exept the overflow on the servers, but thats not that big of a deal....GOOD BY SE, you can kiss my *** lol....
Here's, my thoughts.
Realisticly it's all about personal prefrence. I got tired of friends in FFXI ls ranting about how much "better" WoW was. I played the beta and I liked it, but I won't give up FFXI just yet. Weather something is better is all about what you like and want out of the game. I had some people in my ls play the WoW beta and they didn't like it, there are things I don't like. I just grew tired of people trying to tell me to switch because a certain game is "better". I don't really mind the party dynamics of ffxi. With it I think come a greater sense on community. Also post level 20 in WoW you pretty much have to start partying. Your quests become too hard to solo anymore, especially when you have elite quests. (Elite NM's are bacisly those that although they may be your level, you have to have a group to take them down.) I also don't care for the engine too much, too blocky and too cartoony looking, although you can entertain yourself for a long time getting a dance party going, the /dance emote is great.
If you want both sides I suggest asking the same questions back in the ffxi forums, and get responses from people who tried the WoW beta but chose to stay in FFXI, here all you are probably going to get, while more simple than the actual responses, is ffxi sucks, wow rocks.
Fist for the OP's fear of the PvP type that manifested in DOAC or games like UO where it seemed 1/4 of the whole population of the game did nothignn but get off on killing every low level player they could find. WoW's simple answer is don't play on a PvP server if you don't want to. You can go PvE or RP (presuming those types still exist after the beta) Even then if you are on a PvP server it's a bit different as you don't really feel like to are all alone against everyone else trying to kill you, you have people on your own side that are usualy more than willing to go take on some alliance/horde interloper that is giving you problems.
Then for things I liked. Different play types between PvP and PvE, no Haubergeon, Vermillion Cloak, etc... IE there are a ton more items with greater customizability. Quests with real rewards, XP and useful items.
I'll probably get WoW when i'm unbroke. I liked certain aspects of it, but I'll still probably play both games.
Edited, Mon Nov 29 11:02:35 2004 by Archades
Realisticly it's all about personal prefrence. I got tired of friends in FFXI ls ranting about how much "better" WoW was. I played the beta and I liked it, but I won't give up FFXI just yet. Weather something is better is all about what you like and want out of the game. I had some people in my ls play the WoW beta and they didn't like it, there are things I don't like. I just grew tired of people trying to tell me to switch because a certain game is "better". I don't really mind the party dynamics of ffxi. With it I think come a greater sense on community. Also post level 20 in WoW you pretty much have to start partying. Your quests become too hard to solo anymore, especially when you have elite quests. (Elite NM's are bacisly those that although they may be your level, you have to have a group to take them down.) I also don't care for the engine too much, too blocky and too cartoony looking, although you can entertain yourself for a long time getting a dance party going, the /dance emote is great.
If you want both sides I suggest asking the same questions back in the ffxi forums, and get responses from people who tried the WoW beta but chose to stay in FFXI, here all you are probably going to get, while more simple than the actual responses, is ffxi sucks, wow rocks.
Fist for the OP's fear of the PvP type that manifested in DOAC or games like UO where it seemed 1/4 of the whole population of the game did nothignn but get off on killing every low level player they could find. WoW's simple answer is don't play on a PvP server if you don't want to. You can go PvE or RP (presuming those types still exist after the beta) Even then if you are on a PvP server it's a bit different as you don't really feel like to are all alone against everyone else trying to kill you, you have people on your own side that are usualy more than willing to go take on some alliance/horde interloper that is giving you problems.
Then for things I liked. Different play types between PvP and PvE, no Haubergeon, Vermillion Cloak, etc... IE there are a ton more items with greater customizability. Quests with real rewards, XP and useful items.
I'll probably get WoW when i'm unbroke. I liked certain aspects of it, but I'll still probably play both games.
Edited, Mon Nov 29 11:02:35 2004 by Archades
Another way that Blizzard is trying to keep high levels from killing lower levels is the reputation system. If you kill someone too much lower in level than you, you loose reputation standing too the point that your faction's npcs will attack you on sight. I know I wouldn't want those level 75 npc guards on my bad side...
Archades wrote:
Here's, my thoughts.
Realisticly it's all about personal prefrence. I got tired of friends in FFXI ls ranting about how much "better" WoW was. I played the beta and I liked it, but I won't give up FFXI just yet. Weather something is better is all about what you like and want out of the game. I had some people in my ls play the WoW beta and they didn't like it, there are things I don't like. I just grew tired of people trying to tell me to switch because a certain game is "better". I don't really mind the party dynamics of ffxi. With it I think come a greater sense on community. Also post level 20 in WoW you pretty much have to start partying. Your quests become too hard to solo anymore, especially when you have elite quests. (Elite NM's are bacisly those that although they may be your level, you have to have a group to take them down.) I also don't care for the engine too much, too blocky and too cartoony looking, although you can entertain yourself for a long time getting a dance party going, the /dance emote is great.
If you want both sides I suggest asking the same questions back in the ffxi forums, and get responses from people who tried the WoW beta but chose to stay in FFXI, here all you are probably going to get, while more simple than the actual responses, is ffxi sucks, wow rocks.
Fist for the OP's fear of the PvP type that manifested in DOAC or games like UO where it seemed 1/4 of the whole population of the game did nothignn but get off on killing every low level player they could find. WoW's simple answer is don't play on a PvP server if you don't want to. You can go PvE or RP (presuming those types still exist after the beta) Even then if you are on a PvP server it's a bit different as you don't really feel like to are all alone against everyone else trying to kill you, you have people on your own side that are usualy more than willing to go take on some alliance/horde interloper that is giving you problems.
Then for things I liked. Different play types between PvP and PvE, no Haubergeon, Vermillion Cloak, etc... IE there are a ton more items with greater customizability. Quests with real rewards, XP and useful items.
I'll probably get WoW when i'm unbroke. I liked certain aspects of it, but I'll still probably play both games.
Realisticly it's all about personal prefrence. I got tired of friends in FFXI ls ranting about how much "better" WoW was. I played the beta and I liked it, but I won't give up FFXI just yet. Weather something is better is all about what you like and want out of the game. I had some people in my ls play the WoW beta and they didn't like it, there are things I don't like. I just grew tired of people trying to tell me to switch because a certain game is "better". I don't really mind the party dynamics of ffxi. With it I think come a greater sense on community. Also post level 20 in WoW you pretty much have to start partying. Your quests become too hard to solo anymore, especially when you have elite quests. (Elite NM's are bacisly those that although they may be your level, you have to have a group to take them down.) I also don't care for the engine too much, too blocky and too cartoony looking, although you can entertain yourself for a long time getting a dance party going, the /dance emote is great.
If you want both sides I suggest asking the same questions back in the ffxi forums, and get responses from people who tried the WoW beta but chose to stay in FFXI, here all you are probably going to get, while more simple than the actual responses, is ffxi sucks, wow rocks.
Fist for the OP's fear of the PvP type that manifested in DOAC or games like UO where it seemed 1/4 of the whole population of the game did nothignn but get off on killing every low level player they could find. WoW's simple answer is don't play on a PvP server if you don't want to. You can go PvE or RP (presuming those types still exist after the beta) Even then if you are on a PvP server it's a bit different as you don't really feel like to are all alone against everyone else trying to kill you, you have people on your own side that are usualy more than willing to go take on some alliance/horde interloper that is giving you problems.
Then for things I liked. Different play types between PvP and PvE, no Haubergeon, Vermillion Cloak, etc... IE there are a ton more items with greater customizability. Quests with real rewards, XP and useful items.
I'll probably get WoW when i'm unbroke. I liked certain aspects of it, but I'll still probably play both games.
This is a perfect way to present an opinion stating that you like FFXI more that WoW in the WoW forums and not get flamed
Rate up for you.
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the only rant I have about WoW at this point is the mailbox system. It takes an hour to get anything delivered to you. In FFXI it's pretty much instantaneous.
This is done on purpose to make the world seem more realistic.
I bought out a belt on the AH last night, walked directly to mailbox and picked it up. There was no hour wait. Are you talking about player to player or what?
It was my understanding from my friends on closed beta that buying stuff from the AH is an instant delivery (save lag and database delay), and player to player was about an hour delay.
Edited, Mon Nov 29 13:24:30 2004 by JustShuush
It was my understanding from my friends on closed beta that buying stuff from the AH is an instant delivery (save lag and database delay), and player to player was about an hour delay.
Edited, Mon Nov 29 13:24:30 2004 by JustShuush
Ooooh, I hope I'm not too late to add, Die...Please.
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This is done on purpose to make the world seem more realistic.
this may be true, although I doubt many people like this "realism" they may have put in. I mean people complained about the travel time on chocobos and airships/boats in FFXI. The travel time could also be said to put realism in the game, but people just dislike it I guess? =)
ive been playing ffxi since june i think. i dont play too much. 6hrs on saturday, 2-3 hours a couple nights a week. highest lvl is 30. i still think its fun, if it ever gets to the point where its more of an irritation than a fun game, ill just quit, or lvl up some other job(like ive been doing).
ive seen lots of screen shots and videos from WoW. very impressive. not enough to make me think ff sucks. i think these games are very different and i wish i could combine the best of both games into one.
i will be buying WoW and still play ff. ill take my time and enjoy the game slowly and not worry about anything.
ive seen lots of screen shots and videos from WoW. very impressive. not enough to make me think ff sucks. i think these games are very different and i wish i could combine the best of both games into one.
i will be buying WoW and still play ff. ill take my time and enjoy the game slowly and not worry about anything.
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Look, there are a plethora of WoW vs FFXI threads out there that go in depth
...so we don't need one more, really. And why is it only FFXI people seem to start these threads? Never any people from Everquest or any other game.
Only the exceptions can be exceptional.
I was reading through this thread, putting together a response in my head, and then I got to Archades's post, and realised he already said it all. :P
I'm currently playing both games, and I love them for different reasons. WoW is fast-paced, cartoony, and divides exp blocks into quests which for the time being, are pretty interesting. FFXI has a greater sense of community (I know a lot of people my level just for being that level), is slower and more strategic, and makes you feel a greater sense of accomplishment for finishing things. I just hope my bank account can handle them both for as long as I like them both.
Rate up, by the way, Archades, for posting in a civil, calm, and rational manner about how the games are preference. A nice change from the plethora of "omg [FFXI or WoW] r0xx0rz and [FFXI or WoW] suxx0rz!!!11" posts around both forums.
I'm currently playing both games, and I love them for different reasons. WoW is fast-paced, cartoony, and divides exp blocks into quests which for the time being, are pretty interesting. FFXI has a greater sense of community (I know a lot of people my level just for being that level), is slower and more strategic, and makes you feel a greater sense of accomplishment for finishing things. I just hope my bank account can handle them both for as long as I like them both.
Rate up, by the way, Archades, for posting in a civil, calm, and rational manner about how the games are preference. A nice change from the plethora of "omg [FFXI or WoW] r0xx0rz and [FFXI or WoW] suxx0rz!!!11" posts around both forums.
Seeing as how WoW has been out for about a week now it's difficult to make a truely unbiased evaluation of gameplay mechanics and balancing untill WoW has been out a bit longer. But on the other hand there are a few things that pop out instantly in my mind for both games.
in WoW you can get up and do something. I just logged into FF today (since my girlfriend was monopolizing WoW) and proceeded to look for a Promyvion group. This took me 4 hours of spaming shouts, /searching for members, sending tells, and waiting. At the end of 4 hours I had a group of 4 people (we were waiting on the other 2 to arrive) when all of the sudden 2 of them had to disband because they were impatient and got an XP invite. The party disbanded, and I was left dumbfounded at what was the result of my 4 hours of hard work... nothing.
Wow you can get up and take a quest. do it by yourself. Do it with 1,2,6,8,12 friends if you want. Granted these are lower lvl quests, but the fact remains that you don't need the "PERFECT PARTY" to get something accomplished. Then again this might change later on in WoW.
WoW has tresure chests! And everyone can open them. FF has coffers (few and far between) and Chests (pointless and not worth it by the time you acctually have the levels required to get the key. Don't even get me started on people camping coffers in FF >< it's terrible at least in WoW everyone can open it (only 1 time though then it is unaccessible for you there after).
WoW has less job classes with more class customazation. This is a good thing. a game doesn't need 8 DD classes. In WoW you get more flexability with the classes. take Warrior for example in FF you get what 8 abilities from lvl 1-75. In WoW you get 3 fighting stances with (easily) over 50 abilities. plus you get trait points to further customize your character even farther by upgrading abilities you like and even taking on diffrent weapons and skills other warriors might not have.
PvP. I play on a PvE server in WoW this gives PvP between good and evil characters while not being attacked by your own race. you still get PvP but it is controlled and done in a manner that goes with the story line, and is not too overbearing for people who are new or don't care for PvP a chance to experience the fun it can be. FF you get balista ><. since i'm not lvl 60-75 i don't get a chance to do this. I've tried on numerous occasions all of which turn out like my Promyvion mission example.
there are numerous other things I would like to go into, but it is late and I'm going to sleep now. maybe i'll edit this tommorow to cover somemore things i've noticed.
in WoW you can get up and do something. I just logged into FF today (since my girlfriend was monopolizing WoW) and proceeded to look for a Promyvion group. This took me 4 hours of spaming shouts, /searching for members, sending tells, and waiting. At the end of 4 hours I had a group of 4 people (we were waiting on the other 2 to arrive) when all of the sudden 2 of them had to disband because they were impatient and got an XP invite. The party disbanded, and I was left dumbfounded at what was the result of my 4 hours of hard work... nothing.
Wow you can get up and take a quest. do it by yourself. Do it with 1,2,6,8,12 friends if you want. Granted these are lower lvl quests, but the fact remains that you don't need the "PERFECT PARTY" to get something accomplished. Then again this might change later on in WoW.
WoW has tresure chests! And everyone can open them. FF has coffers (few and far between) and Chests (pointless and not worth it by the time you acctually have the levels required to get the key. Don't even get me started on people camping coffers in FF >< it's terrible at least in WoW everyone can open it (only 1 time though then it is unaccessible for you there after).
WoW has less job classes with more class customazation. This is a good thing. a game doesn't need 8 DD classes. In WoW you get more flexability with the classes. take Warrior for example in FF you get what 8 abilities from lvl 1-75. In WoW you get 3 fighting stances with (easily) over 50 abilities. plus you get trait points to further customize your character even farther by upgrading abilities you like and even taking on diffrent weapons and skills other warriors might not have.
PvP. I play on a PvE server in WoW this gives PvP between good and evil characters while not being attacked by your own race. you still get PvP but it is controlled and done in a manner that goes with the story line, and is not too overbearing for people who are new or don't care for PvP a chance to experience the fun it can be. FF you get balista ><. since i'm not lvl 60-75 i don't get a chance to do this. I've tried on numerous occasions all of which turn out like my Promyvion mission example.
there are numerous other things I would like to go into, but it is late and I'm going to sleep now. maybe i'll edit this tommorow to cover somemore things i've noticed.
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as interesting, correct, and profound all your posts are...
http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=21&mid=1101164200951355921&num=124
The people who will be even more interested are reading that...
Sorry if this post seems brash but i really am tired of all these posts about FFXI VS WOW, being a convertee myself all i have to say is let this thread die and give your important thoughts in the right place
http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=21&mid=1101164200951355921&num=124
The people who will be even more interested are reading that...
Sorry if this post seems brash but i really am tired of all these posts about FFXI VS WOW, being a convertee myself all i have to say is let this thread die and give your important thoughts in the right place
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Completly different games.
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