I got a quick question:
While looking through a friend's profile ( http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?2260 )
I saw the primal kilt of the owl or something, yet when I click on it it goes to the non "of the ___" item.
I also have seen several items (even got one to drop) that is like that, Sturdy Quarterstaff of the Monkey... So anyone care to explain how some items already in the DB have extra stats and things? And no, these aren't enchanted unless mobs can drop enchanted items.
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bump... doesn't anyone know how these items got like this?
I believe just like in Diablo2 they can have different endings giving them qualities based on the names they get. Monsters drop them this way, and I >think< enchanters can enchant them later this way. Hope this helps.
Thats what I was thinking but I think that the DB shouls be able to reconigze the difference somehow since they AREN'T the same items really.
I agree, they should recognize them as multiple items... OR have them have this little text thingie attached to them saying something along the lines of, "Can also be... Etc etc etc.."
Kinda hope Alla reads this post so he can think about changing that.
I have a AH bid for a nice little tomahawk which isnt in the DB because its like that....
In the profiles it does show as of the ___ though, which is interesting.
I have a AH bid for a nice little tomahawk which isnt in the DB because its like that....
In the profiles it does show as of the ___ though, which is interesting.
They probably know about this already ^^. Just more than likely have a thousand other things to do AND the undeniable urge to play WoW.. None-the-less it would be nice! =)
Lol yea, I'm in withdrawal atm since they took the pacific servers down JUST as I was about middle of my playing time... and then 3 hours later or so they back up and i'm tired but I want to play >.>
Thats what holidays are for though lol! SLEEP IN!!!
Thats what holidays are for though lol! SLEEP IN!!!
I can see that, I played Open Beta a lot and man.. I'm starting to rethink whether I should wait the week I told myself I'd wait to avoid the 'Release Rush'. Game is way too addicting, true to Blizz's style =P.
Well besides the HORRIBLE LAG I think this taking down the servers was made to fix, I haven't really seen a "release rush"...
And as for the lag its pretty fightable if you make a few sacrifices.
Most of the lag was/is caused by looting. When you loot a new item you have to connect to their over stressed Item DB server and thats what causes the lag. However once you have one in your inventory you can loot w/o connecting to it for as much data.
So once you suffer that first bit of lag you can get around it by being picky about what you fight.
From my skills, Skining and Leather and Cooking and all doesn't seem to be an exception to this. Nor are rewards from quests.
And as for the lag its pretty fightable if you make a few sacrifices.
Most of the lag was/is caused by looting. When you loot a new item you have to connect to their over stressed Item DB server and thats what causes the lag. However once you have one in your inventory you can loot w/o connecting to it for as much data.
So once you suffer that first bit of lag you can get around it by being picky about what you fight.
From my skills, Skining and Leather and Cooking and all doesn't seem to be an exception to this. Nor are rewards from quests.
Let me try to explain. What you see in our database is always the base item. From there, some of these items are dropped with a random property added on. In effect, these are like enchantments that are built into that copy of the item, and they're selected randomly from a really big table. We can show the correct version of the item in profiles because the id number for that version is uploaded.
We don't show the randomized versions of the items for things like item searches and mob loot because there can be so many of them. Also, as far as I can tell, all of the randomized versions of each base item can be dropped at random from the same level range of mobs, so seperate statistics for each version arent much use there either. To give some idea of what I mean.. there are currently 9974 items in our database. 1569 of those are ones marked as being the base for randomized items. For each of those, there would be 10+ versions.. and even more if you counted every iteration of the same stat combinations with different values (ie. considering a +2 strength version to be different from a +1 strength version).
One thing I can do for now is to add a tag to the display for items that can be randomized. If anyone has any better ideas on how to handle this, I'd be open to suggestions.
We don't show the randomized versions of the items for things like item searches and mob loot because there can be so many of them. Also, as far as I can tell, all of the randomized versions of each base item can be dropped at random from the same level range of mobs, so seperate statistics for each version arent much use there either. To give some idea of what I mean.. there are currently 9974 items in our database. 1569 of those are ones marked as being the base for randomized items. For each of those, there would be 10+ versions.. and even more if you counted every iteration of the same stat combinations with different values (ie. considering a +2 strength version to be different from a +1 strength version).
One thing I can do for now is to add a tag to the display for items that can be randomized. If anyone has any better ideas on how to handle this, I'd be open to suggestions.
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Perhaps it is possible just to list the titles of the different things it could be, for instance of the Owl, of the Bear etc. on the tag or something. Then have a separate section for what each of these random factors does to the item. So of the Owl would be gives slight increase to Intellect and Spirit...
That way you have a centralised list of the additional factors than can appear on Weapons & Armour etc and then just a list of what each piece has the chance of getting?
It's a tough one I'll admit... But thats my thought!
That way you have a centralised list of the additional factors than can appear on Weapons & Armour etc and then just a list of what each piece has the chance of getting?
It's a tough one I'll admit... But thats my thought!
I like to see the of the owl, bird, etc ones myself.
I have the kilt of the owl,... its my profile.
Wow, your prof when wonky.
I kind of like xarcon's idea for how to handle this in the database.
Something like:
Sturdy Quarterstaff (can be of the ____)
for item name maybe.
The ____ would be filled in with a link to a seperate page which lists the different randomized things like of the owl, monkey, ect. On that page just give something like:
Owl: Increases ___
Monkey: Increases ____
Something like:
Sturdy Quarterstaff (can be of the ____)
for item name maybe.
The ____ would be filled in with a link to a seperate page which lists the different randomized things like of the owl, monkey, ect. On that page just give something like:
Owl: Increases ___
Monkey: Increases ____
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Darkflame, I do like to see the of the Owl, of the Bird, on the profiles, it's accurate after all!
Even if you don't do it on the page for the base item though I would like to see a listing somewhere on the site that had what all the additional effects do... It's just good to know what you can get on your drops.
Even if you don't do it on the page for the base item though I would like to see a listing somewhere on the site that had what all the additional effects do... It's just good to know what you can get on your drops.
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