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#1 Nov 24 2004 at 4:13 PM Rating: Default
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the game is unplayable...

wait every day on full servers to get in for hours...
once in you lag so badly you can't do anything or keep dying...
at one point either your booted or the server crashes...
process repeats again.

thats not a game, its worse than beta.
if they are gonna cap servers than do it right...
limit 1 character per server, limit 5000 registrations per server, lock the server forever, create a new server for every one that fills up.

problem solved, ppl want to be on same server with a friend... use the world pass system in FFXI from then on. 50 gold to buy one so it wont' be any time soon and Blizzard can work on the lagging and server cap more.

this is playing 30 million ppl tug of war with a 2 inch string.
#2 Nov 24 2004 at 4:15 PM Rating: Decent
A. Blizzard doesn't read these forums.

B. You have given Blizzard a whole... one and a half day. Give them a week or two and see if it still continues this way. Remember, this is a MMORPG, you're supposed to measure gaming experience in months, not hours.
#3 Nov 24 2004 at 4:16 PM Rating: Decent
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When I got on last night I didn't have any lag. Didn't hear anyone complaining about lag.

Heard of only one person disconnecting.

I personally like the queue system. Limits the number of people to a server.
#4 Nov 24 2004 at 4:16 PM Rating: Default
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If you are going to complain about this go here

Edited, Wed Nov 24 16:16:58 2004 by Imios
#5 Nov 24 2004 at 4:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Theres not really a point in getting more servers because once the server population spreads out they wont need the extra servers, it will just be a waste of money - servers cost thousands and thousands of dollars (no im not an expert on game servers but i have seen prices on them). I agree that the lag sucks and all but lets give it a bit first
#6 Nov 24 2004 at 4:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Doh sorry didnt notice that i double posted lol

Edited, Wed Nov 24 17:34:29 2004 by Qwestionator
#7 Nov 24 2004 at 4:27 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm sorry, but blizzard has had years and a lot of beta time to get this right. They kept pushing back the date of release to 'ensure' us that they were making great game, however, what we get is a lack luster launch that leaves the game mostly unplayable for the first days. The ffxi launch in north america went smooth as silk. I was up and running the first day and having a blast. And while you can tell me that "well SE had time with the japanese launch", the NA lanuch more than doubled the population and still the launch went smoothly. Why? because SE planned ahead by making it so you are locked into a server and limiting population. Non of this jumping around stuff which just causes more lag and brings down more servers. Blizzard, IMHO, didn't know what they were getting into when they started making an MMORPG and should have brought in some outside talent to make this better.

And on the subject of "well it's just the first day". That is a copout excuse used by fanboys and morons that don't want to hear a bad thing about blizzard. When I buy something and get it home, I want it to work. I don't go buy a coffee maker or a new game to play it a week from now. If I wanted to play it then, I would have bought it then. People need to take more pride in their products. This is just another example of the stereotypical "American-half-assed-job". I wouldn't have minded them pushing the date back a little to get a product that worked right the first time. But releasing a product that isn't ready is just bad business and Blizzard is most likely going to lose customers over this.

Finally, MMORPGs are meant to be played for months and years, true, but first impressions are always the strongest and this one left a sour taste in my mouth.

This is me ranting.

Edited, Wed Nov 24 16:29:12 2004 by Kria
#8 Nov 24 2004 at 4:29 PM Rating: Good
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When I got on last night I didn't have any lag. Didn't hear anyone complaining about lag.

Heard of only one person disconnecting.


Please give me the name of this magical WoW land without lag. Because I have yet to find one, and I'm searching nonstop. (Ok, so I have found a few, but they haven't been stable more then a half a day.)
#9 Nov 24 2004 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
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I'll admit, the release didn't go flawlessly. Here's what I didn't like:

1) The Gnutella-style patching app, over an hour for 19MB file? Sheesh!
2) Lag was a bit unbearable at times, there would be moments of absolutely nothing followed by long periods of smooth play. Not a deal breaker, definately considering it was release night.
3) Weird quirkly lag-related issues that kept me from seeing people, NPC, etc. Two restarts and everything was peachy.
4) When I looted my first bag, got knocked off the server (only happened once all night long), and came back timewarped 5 minutes in the past...no small blue bag. =(

Other than these few issues it went pretty good, and I even chose a "Medium" populated server right off the bat. I could see how the problems would be exacerbated on the High-pop servers, but you picked your poison (usually).

I for one am pretty satisfied and it should get better soon. I've lived through UO and EQ launches, this is nothing.
#10 Nov 24 2004 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
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GrandMasterDaveo wrote:
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When I got on last night I didn't have any lag. Didn't hear anyone complaining about lag.

Heard of only one person disconnecting.


Please give me the name of this magical WoW land without lag. Because I have yet to find one, and I'm searching nonstop. (Ok, so I have found a few, but they haven't been stable more then a half a day.)


Was on Illidan actually.
#11 Nov 24 2004 at 4:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I have been around the MMORPG scence since most of you were in diapers. And I think that most of this fustration people are feeling towards WoW stims from our past experiences with game launches as a whole.

Blizzard has always had high quality games. I believe WoW is a HQ game as well. But we have come to expect more from the people over at Blizzard.

So half a million peeps buy WoW and we all log in and cannot play. So all the ugly memories of the bad launches in past games come back to haunt us. Not being able to play a decents day of WoW after waiting 5 years, going though a year of beta tend to wear on anyones nerves.

I payed 100 bucks for this game. I have never bought a CE in any other MMORPG I have played. After all this talk about lag is intentional, wiping servers for a fresh start and the thought that Blizzard prolly raked in $25,000,000 dollars in sales. I WANT TO VENT. And to make matters worse we cannot post on the offical forums because the log-in server is down.

40 Servers is not enough. One server farm is not enough. One gateway is not enough. You would think that they would have forseen this, but apparently they didnt.

All these excuses for Blizzard just don't pan out anymore. They have raised the bar continually in the gaming industry and now they hafta live up to the expectations. They are victims of thier own arrogance, guess they are human afterall.

HAPPY TURKEYDAY EVERYONE!

p.s. I'm not suprised this happened, but it doesn't mean im not pissed about it.
#12 Nov 24 2004 at 4:34 PM Rating: Good
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The ffxi launch in north america went smooth as silk.


That was an 18-month old game.
#13 Nov 24 2004 at 4:36 PM Rating: Decent
"The ffxi launch in north america went smooth as silk. I was up and running the first day and having a blast."

It wasn't so smooth when it released in Asia unforunatly. The game was out a year before it even came to the US.
#14 Nov 24 2004 at 4:39 PM Rating: Decent
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For all of you that are upset that WoW is laggy, can't get on, blizzard support sucks, whatever. Just stop playing, if it bothers you that much take the game back and get your money back and quit your ******** here.

Tell us about the problems on the games are not going to fix the problems about the game.

And just so you know since I started playing retail, I have experienced one lag spike of a half a second and one crash. Which for a new-release, is not that bad.
#15 Nov 24 2004 at 4:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Imios wrote:
For all of you that are upset that WoW is laggy, can't get on, blizzard support sucks, whatever. Just stop playing, if it bothers you that much take the game back and get your money back and quit your ******** here.


I'm with Imios.
#16 Nov 24 2004 at 4:41 PM Rating: Decent
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the game is unplayable...

wait every day on full servers to get in for hours...
once in you lag so badly you can't do anything or keep dying...
at one point either your booted or the server crashes...
process repeats again.

thats not a game, its worse than beta.
if they are gonna cap servers than do it right...
limit 1 character per server, limit 5000 registrations per server, lock the server forever, create a new server for every one that fills up.

problem solved, ppl want to be on same server with a friend... use the world pass system in FFXI from then on. 50 gold to buy one so it wont' be any time soon and Blizzard can work on the lagging and server cap more.

this is playing 30 million ppl tug of war with a 2 inch string.


Welcome to the 2nd day, where hundreds of thousands of people are logging in on the same time, crashing and burning everything on sight!

I actually expected this to happen, really. First week of an online game such as WoW will be hell but once people buy the game, play it out and spread their time, it's all cool.

Me, personally, am okay with this. I've been working 14 hour days for the pass 4 days anyways. As my co worker loves to say in all her infinite wisdom, I'm ***** ducky, man! :)

If you have no patience, please do us all the favor and not play. The biggest problem here is that since we've been used to our previous MMOs for a long time, we quickly forget what a first week feels like.
#17 Nov 24 2004 at 4:46 PM Rating: Decent
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I do love how people on the general forums are saying they are going to sue.

I wonder if EQ ever got lawsuits over patching times twice-three times the time stated.
#18 Nov 24 2004 at 4:48 PM Rating: Good
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wiping servers for a fresh start



Can someone quote me some info on this? Is this a rumor?


No links please as my company blocks many, many IPs. This includes the WoW boards and most of allah. (Thank god not the main threads)
#19 Nov 24 2004 at 4:49 PM Rating: Default
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FFXI was out 18 months before US launch yes...
but WoW was in closed beta for 3 YEARS.
open beta was designed to be the last min fix so this wouldn't happen, but they limited open beta cause it couldn't handle the load of ppl... hello that right there should have told you something.

so during open beta if it couldn't handle it, push back release of retail for 2 more months while keeping open beta up til you have 0 cap and no limit to players. when the server could handle that on a test server then your ready to release full version.

BTW the log in server for the offical forums are down, they got tired of hearing us complain about their bad product, their phones are off the hooks too. i wouldn't doubt it they have the curtains drawn and are cowaring under their desk pissing in their pants.
#20 Nov 24 2004 at 4:51 PM Rating: Decent
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FFXI was out 18 months before US launch yes...
but WoW was in closed beta for 3 YEARS.
open beta was designed to be the last min fix so this wouldn't happen, but they limited open beta cause it couldn't handle the load of ppl... hello that right there should have told you something.

so during open beta if it couldn't handle it, push back release of retail for 2 more months while keeping open beta up til you have 0 cap and no limit to players. when the server could handle that on a test server then your ready to release full version.

BTW the log in server for the offical forums are down, they got tired of hearing us complain about their bad product, their phones are off the hooks too. i wouldn't doubt it they have the curtains drawn and are cowaring under their desk pissing in their pants.


Actually, the game was in the works for 3 years. Closed beta started like back in January...

BTW, 2nd day! 2ND DAY!!! 2ND DAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!111!!!!one!!! *head explodes*

Edited, Wed Nov 24 16:53:14 2004 by Redmoonxl
#21 Nov 24 2004 at 4:52 PM Rating: Default
lol cowering under their desk and pisses their pants!
#22 Nov 24 2004 at 4:52 PM Rating: Default
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To the person advocating that WoW players be treated as poorly as FFXI players: You're an idiot. Forcing people onto servers without their friends is ridiculous. Making people have a "pass" to get onto a server is assinine.

The caps are set, they are implemented, and for the most part, they work fine. Does it suck that you can't get onto server right away? Yes, but it also makes you think twice about which server you're choosing. The biggest problem I see is that there don't seem to be quite enough PVE servers, specifically roleplay servers. I think one in the Central/Mountain area would be more than adequately populated, however, we won't know for sure until the population evens out in a couple of days.

Grady

Edited, Wed Nov 24 16:53:57 2004 by Grady
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#23 Nov 24 2004 at 4:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Overlord Pallier wrote:

BTW the log in server for the offical forums are down, they got tired of hearing us complain about their bad product, their phones are off the hooks too. i wouldn't doubt it they have the curtains drawn and are cowaring under their desk pissing in their pants.


I'd turn the phones off too if I had a bunch of whiners doing nothing but complain about stuff that was to be expected anyways.


If you find it so bad, don't play.

Me personally, I'm going to wait patiently for servers to come back up and play and have fun.

I'm quite satisfied with their "bad" product.
#24 Nov 24 2004 at 4:54 PM Rating: Decent
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As I said before and I'll say it again: The biggest problem here is that since we've been used to our previous MMOs for a long time, we quickly forget what a first week feels like.
#25 Nov 24 2004 at 4:57 PM Rating: Default
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Cancel your account and go back to your respective MMO's, lag fixed.
#26 Nov 24 2004 at 4:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Redmoonxl wrote:
As I said before and I'll say it again: The biggest problem here is that since we've been used to our previous MMOs for a long time, we quickly forget what a first week feels like.


This is actually going smoother then I thought it would.

I remember couple years ago when UO did the Age of Shadows expansion set. My god, that was awful.

Keep in mind that this was a game that had been around for about 6 years at that time.

The SECOND day it was so bad from people trying to register that it took about 2 hours to get thru the registration servers. Then you log on and the lag was so bad that you couldn't even move.

This was an existing game and an expansion. If they couldn't solve those issues after 6 years and 2 or 3 expansions before that, you actually expect Blizzard to get it perfect on their first shot?
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