Greetings, im looking for Answers to some Question for which i couldnt find an Answer on all the Websites i visited. I didnt had the Chance to test these Stuff, so i really hope some Experienced CB Testers can help me.
Most of Questions are PvP related and maybe many other Players are looking for these Answers as well. These Questions are taking away from my Sleep^^
English isnt my first language, im sry for any Bad Grammar.
1: What Effects Dismount a Player from his Mount? Be specific pls. What ends the Shamans Ghost Wolf Form?
2: What can end Polymorph except a Dispel, Damage taken or Shapeshift? Isnt there a Dispel Trinket?
3: What can end Fear except Dispel and Undead Racial Trait?
Is there any other way to become immune to fear except UD Racial Trait?
4: Can someone use any First Aid Bandage while bleeding or poisoned? ---Clearly Answered
5: Can someone use any First Aid Bandage while moving?--- Clearly Answered
6: What Effects/buffs cannot be purged by Shamans? Pls be specific.
7: Can someone use 3 different Alchemy Potions after another or is there a Timer which makes it Impossible. An Example, could a Warrior use a Free Instant a Rage and a Swiftness Potions all in 3 Seconds? ---Clearly Answered
8: How do Resistances work? Do they increase chance to resist Spells/Effects ot do they decrease Damage taken?---- Clearly Answered
9: How does Orc Racial Trait "Hardiness" works vs an Melee Attack like Rogues Cheapshot?
10: Will 2 non NE Rogues be able to find each other if they both have Master of Deception 5? I mean can they Hunt each other or do they rarely see the other in Stealth if they have the Talent?
11: Does Armorclass reduces Spelldamage taken? ----- Clearly Answered
12: Does the Engineering Item "Gnomish Mind Control Cap" and the Priest Spell Mindcontrol work vs Players?^^ if so,does it count as charm?
13: Can u Summon the Mount in Combat? ---- Clearly Answered
14: Does a Character keeps attacking when drinking a Potion in Melee Combat, will he loose any Dps?
15: Can i use this Potion http://www.thottbot.com/?i=12594 when allready Stunned? The Description of Stun on the WoW Community Page reads, u cannot do anything while stunned. so i whonder, does u icons grey out when stunned?
16: Is there a Set interval in that Dot and Bleed Spells/Effects damage their Target. An Example, if Rank 1 Moonfire does 12 Damage over Time for 9 Seconds will it tick 3 Times every 4 Seconds?
17: Are all Buff Effects like the ones from potions, classified as Magic, so a Shaman can Purge any Buff?
18: Can i equip another Weapon while Disarmed, will an Offhand weapon Disarmed too?
19: Is it possible to block Arrows/Shots?
Thats it, cant think of more atm^^ Many Thx in Advance.
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I'll attempt to answer your questions, though on a few i'm iffy and will make sure to put that in parens behind them.
1: What Effects Dismount a Player from his Mount? Be specific pls. What ends the Shamans Ghost Wolf Form?
I know that polymorph will dismount someone, that's all i know though.
2: What can end Polymorph except a Dispel or Shapeshift? Isnt there a Dispel Trinket?
To my knowlege magic resistances can end this early, as well as taking any damage will take you out of polymorph. However the only thing on could find was dispel magic (the spell) that would really do anything.
3: What can end Fear except Dispel and Undead Racial Trait?
Is there any other way to become immune to fear except UD Racial Trait?
Damage, and resistances are the only thing that will end this early for you.
4: Can someone use any First Aid Bandage while bleeding or poisoned?
5: Can someone use any First Aid Bandage while moving?
If you are taking damage you can't use a bandage, however you are able to use one and then run around, I'm not entirely sure about cast time.
7: Can someone use 3 different Alchemy Potions after another or is there a Timer which makes it Impossible. An Example, could a Warrior use a Free Instant a Rage and a Swiftness Potions all in 3 Seconds?
There is a brief dealy, however you are able to use multiple seperate types of potions rather rapidly, however you cannot reuse the same potion usually for a rather lenghty amount of time (Healing, mana, likely the freedom potion)
11. Does Armorclass reduces Spelldamage taken?
Armorclass doesn't help, just resistances and I"M not entirely sure the overall effect of resistances.
Anyone feel free to correct me when I'm wrong, or just add, I skipped a few.
1: What Effects Dismount a Player from his Mount? Be specific pls. What ends the Shamans Ghost Wolf Form?
I know that polymorph will dismount someone, that's all i know though.
2: What can end Polymorph except a Dispel or Shapeshift? Isnt there a Dispel Trinket?
To my knowlege magic resistances can end this early, as well as taking any damage will take you out of polymorph. However the only thing on could find was dispel magic (the spell) that would really do anything.
3: What can end Fear except Dispel and Undead Racial Trait?
Is there any other way to become immune to fear except UD Racial Trait?
Damage, and resistances are the only thing that will end this early for you.
4: Can someone use any First Aid Bandage while bleeding or poisoned?
5: Can someone use any First Aid Bandage while moving?
If you are taking damage you can't use a bandage, however you are able to use one and then run around, I'm not entirely sure about cast time.
7: Can someone use 3 different Alchemy Potions after another or is there a Timer which makes it Impossible. An Example, could a Warrior use a Free Instant a Rage and a Swiftness Potions all in 3 Seconds?
There is a brief dealy, however you are able to use multiple seperate types of potions rather rapidly, however you cannot reuse the same potion usually for a rather lenghty amount of time (Healing, mana, likely the freedom potion)
11. Does Armorclass reduces Spelldamage taken?
Armorclass doesn't help, just resistances and I"M not entirely sure the overall effect of resistances.
Anyone feel free to correct me when I'm wrong, or just add, I skipped a few.
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Thx alot for taking the Time helping me with my Questions.
I forgot to add damage taken to the except list for Polymorph^^
I once looked up on a Trinket on Thottbot which had a Dispel for a friendly Target, but couldnt find it again to link it.
This Website http://www.worldofwar.net/guides/transport.php has the Info that Effects !like! polymorph, Stun, Fear and Sleep dismount a Player, but that Info seems a little old, so im still trying to figure out what Effects work. Does Root work?^^
If u cant Bandage when taking Damage including Bleed, Poison then Dwarf Rogues have a big Advantge in Fights vs Other Rogues. But that could belong in the Thread on top of the Site, where someone states Races doesnt matter^^I guess it matters beeing able to take out a Priest just because u are Undead.
Keep the Answers coming, if u can Answer these its just a Prove that u are wise cause u know and nice cause u share^^
I forgot to add damage taken to the except list for Polymorph^^
I once looked up on a Trinket on Thottbot which had a Dispel for a friendly Target, but couldnt find it again to link it.
This Website http://www.worldofwar.net/guides/transport.php has the Info that Effects !like! polymorph, Stun, Fear and Sleep dismount a Player, but that Info seems a little old, so im still trying to figure out what Effects work. Does Root work?^^
If u cant Bandage when taking Damage including Bleed, Poison then Dwarf Rogues have a big Advantge in Fights vs Other Rogues. But that could belong in the Thread on top of the Site, where someone states Races doesnt matter^^I guess it matters beeing able to take out a Priest just because u are Undead.
Keep the Answers coming, if u can Answer these its just a Prove that u are wise cause u know and nice cause u share^^
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Update, Edited the first Post to add 2 new Questions^^, still looking for Answers. Thx in Advance
6: What Effects/buffs cannot be purged by Shamans? Pls be specific.
Shamans can remove magic effects, poison effects, and disease effects. Only thing left I think is a curse, they can't remove.
Shamans can remove magic effects, poison effects, and disease effects. Only thing left I think is a curse, they can't remove.
1. Daze effects. Nothing ends a wolf form that I'm aware of other than maybe poly, but I wasn't a hardcore shaman player.
2. Damage can end polymorph. 1 point of it. For YOU being polymorphed, there's nothing you can do for yourself, only groupmates.
3. That's it.
4. No.
5. On themselves. It's a channeled heal on others.
6. Shamans can purge anything considered to be "magic". Poisons, diseases, curses and non-tagged abilities like Rend do not apply. Note that the shaman can cure a few of those with other skills.
7. Alchemy potions have a cooldown timer for certain classes of potions. You cannot use a healing potion after another healing potion, or a mana potion, or anything else that restores health/mana. Potions that create long-term buff effects you can chug all you want.
8. Purely a chance to negate completely. There are no partial resists.
9. couldn't tell you.
10. don't know that one either. You're clearly a pvp person...oh hey, you said that at the top. /bonk self.
11. No.
12. Priest mind control does. Never heard of the cap before.
13. No.
Does root work for what?
Dwarves have no advantage regarding bandaging in battle because the bandaging effect ends if you take damage, and cannot be repeated for 30 seconds.
Undead are no longer undead for purposes of spells like shackle and exorcism.
2. Damage can end polymorph. 1 point of it. For YOU being polymorphed, there's nothing you can do for yourself, only groupmates.
3. That's it.
4. No.
5. On themselves. It's a channeled heal on others.
6. Shamans can purge anything considered to be "magic". Poisons, diseases, curses and non-tagged abilities like Rend do not apply. Note that the shaman can cure a few of those with other skills.
7. Alchemy potions have a cooldown timer for certain classes of potions. You cannot use a healing potion after another healing potion, or a mana potion, or anything else that restores health/mana. Potions that create long-term buff effects you can chug all you want.
8. Purely a chance to negate completely. There are no partial resists.
9. couldn't tell you.
10. don't know that one either. You're clearly a pvp person...oh hey, you said that at the top. /bonk self.
11. No.
12. Priest mind control does. Never heard of the cap before.
13. No.
Does root work for what?
Dwarves have no advantage regarding bandaging in battle because the bandaging effect ends if you take damage, and cannot be repeated for 30 seconds.
Undead are no longer undead for purposes of spells like shackle and exorcism.
Only the exceptions can be exceptional.
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Thx alot for taking the time to Answer one of my questions.
I tested and purge couldnt remove Evasion or Sprint. Will it remove Effects generated from Melee Abilies, like Slice&Dice Haste or ghostly Strike Evadebuff?
What Effects/Spells are classified as Curses?
Thx in Advance
I tested and purge couldnt remove Evasion or Sprint. Will it remove Effects generated from Melee Abilies, like Slice&Dice Haste or ghostly Strike Evadebuff?
What Effects/Spells are classified as Curses?
Thx in Advance
Well, effects usually have a classification. When you hover over the effect, usually it says the name of the effect in the left corner, with the classification in the right.
For example: Sleep Magic.
Sleep is effect name, magic is the classification.
So unless the effect is of type magic, poison, or disease, it can't be removed by a Shaman.
Warlocks may be able to curse, I've never played one. I've only seen one monster use a curse, and the curse had a random chance to stun you for 3 seconds in a 2 minute period.
For example: Sleep Magic.
Sleep is effect name, magic is the classification.
So unless the effect is of type magic, poison, or disease, it can't be removed by a Shaman.
Warlocks may be able to curse, I've never played one. I've only seen one monster use a curse, and the curse had a random chance to stun you for 3 seconds in a 2 minute period.
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Im starting to get excited about so many Replys (-: Many Thx to all who are trying to help me.
To Azuarc Scholar, i mean this Cap http://www.thottbot.com/?i=13960 Even saw it in a Video but couldnt figure if its Charming High lvl Players.
The Question regarding Root was, does it unmounts a Player?
your wrote non-tagged Abilities cant be Purged, are Selfeffect Abilities like HolyShield Paladin talent or Slice&Dice haste purgable?
Regarding Question 8) you wrote its a SpellResist Chance increase. So a Hunter with Aspect of the Wild and some special Items will resist more then 2/3 of a Druids Wrath, as an example?
Thx in Advance
Dwarfs do have an Advantage, a Dwarf Rouge can easily Gouge another Rougue or other Character, then cast Stoneform and bandage himself. Some Month after Release many will Combat this Strategy with using Dot Poison and Procs and Bleed Styles. This will work fine against anyone then a Dwarf. In Addition a Dwarf can Stoneform before he Vanish or when fleeing cast Stoneform to get rid of a DoT Effects then ShiftRight Click Stoneform Buff Icon to get back the Speed.
I predict that in some Time many Hardcore PvP Players with a Melee Cha will play an Undead if they can. Just because they have the only Counter to Fear except Dispel.
I really hope Blizzard will try to bring some Balance into PvP. Cause i fear there are many Things which will stop PvP Players from Playing the Game if there are no Changes.
Its not PvP related but another Sad Truth, if they dont change they way Ore and Herbs spawn then Ebay will have an negative Impact on WoW soon.
Keep up the Posting
Edited, Mon Nov 22 18:18:28 2004 by Lavim
To Azuarc Scholar, i mean this Cap http://www.thottbot.com/?i=13960 Even saw it in a Video but couldnt figure if its Charming High lvl Players.
The Question regarding Root was, does it unmounts a Player?
your wrote non-tagged Abilities cant be Purged, are Selfeffect Abilities like HolyShield Paladin talent or Slice&Dice haste purgable?
Regarding Question 8) you wrote its a SpellResist Chance increase. So a Hunter with Aspect of the Wild and some special Items will resist more then 2/3 of a Druids Wrath, as an example?
Thx in Advance
Dwarfs do have an Advantage, a Dwarf Rouge can easily Gouge another Rougue or other Character, then cast Stoneform and bandage himself. Some Month after Release many will Combat this Strategy with using Dot Poison and Procs and Bleed Styles. This will work fine against anyone then a Dwarf. In Addition a Dwarf can Stoneform before he Vanish or when fleeing cast Stoneform to get rid of a DoT Effects then ShiftRight Click Stoneform Buff Icon to get back the Speed.
I predict that in some Time many Hardcore PvP Players with a Melee Cha will play an Undead if they can. Just because they have the only Counter to Fear except Dispel.
I really hope Blizzard will try to bring some Balance into PvP. Cause i fear there are many Things which will stop PvP Players from Playing the Game if there are no Changes.
Its not PvP related but another Sad Truth, if they dont change they way Ore and Herbs spawn then Ebay will have an negative Impact on WoW soon.
Keep up the Posting
Edited, Mon Nov 22 18:18:28 2004 by Lavim
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Ghost wolf only changes back to your normal form if you make it.
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If so then lets talk about something clearly Overpowered, how im supposed to kill a Shaman then if he dont want to die.
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Get better?
..Weird question.
:p
..Weird question.
:p
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I still dont know how to tell if a Effect/Buff is classed as Magic. I looked at many Spell Icons at Thottbot and couldnt find the Classification. Maybe the Ingame Infotext is different.
Thx anyway
Thx anyway
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Get better?^^ im trying to figure out how to counter each and every abilitie/Spell and Item, so i guess thats part of getting better.
Can u tell me something helpful regarding Shadowwolfs PvP Balance?^^ Lets say a Warrior on his Mount sees ur Shaman^^how is he going to kill u if u dont want to? Can someone instantly attack after dismounting? If so then fine he could ride ahead unmount then drink a Rage Potion and Attack u with Harmstring but the Timing is kind tricky i guess^^ Another option is Sticky Glue(a Quest Reward will get the nerfbat^^) or this Netgun http://www.thottbot.com/?i=13932
But im only a Newb who played some of Openbeta, nothing more. So i really dont know^^
Update: Added Question 14) pls reply^^
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Can u tell me something helpful regarding Shadowwolfs PvP Balance?^^ Lets say a Warrior on his Mount sees ur Shaman^^how is he going to kill u if u dont want to? Can someone instantly attack after dismounting? If so then fine he could ride ahead unmount then drink a Rage Potion and Attack u with Harmstring but the Timing is kind tricky i guess^^ Another option is Sticky Glue(a Quest Reward will get the nerfbat^^) or this Netgun http://www.thottbot.com/?i=13932
But im only a Newb who played some of Openbeta, nothing more. So i really dont know^^
Update: Added Question 14) pls reply^^
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Woot, found a Counter to Fear, now we got the one Warrior Talent, Will of the Forsaken and this http://www.thottbot.com/?i=12875 but i still cant find the Dispel trinket. Damn Database^^
Edit: Here it is http://www.thottbot.com/?i=23592 What do u think, can i use it on myself while im a sheep?
Does this Item http://www.thottbot.com/?i=24252 really lowers my Enemys chance to land a Spell by 20% isnt there a Cap or something?
Thx in Advance, i hope the Information i provide in return are of any Value for the Readers of the thread^^
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Edited, Mon Nov 22 19:31:06 2004 by Lavim
Edit: Here it is http://www.thottbot.com/?i=23592 What do u think, can i use it on myself while im a sheep?
Does this Item http://www.thottbot.com/?i=24252 really lowers my Enemys chance to land a Spell by 20% isnt there a Cap or something?
Thx in Advance, i hope the Information i provide in return are of any Value for the Readers of the thread^^
Edited, Mon Nov 22 19:31:26 2004 by Lavim
Edited, Mon Nov 22 19:31:06 2004 by Lavim
The resistances aren't a % ratio, they're just a number.
It would take over 100 in a resistance to make a big difference.
It would take over 100 in a resistance to make a big difference.
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Do u know the exact formula? (-: Or can u give me some Average Nrs, how much Resistance increases Spellresistance % by what Amount. Can you answer Question 9? The Info on Hardiness says its a 25% Resistance so its kinda confusing.
Thx in Advance
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Thx in Advance
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Edited, Mon Nov 22 19:40:10 2004 by Lavim
I could if the WoW forums weren't deleted. :\
There was thread discussing whether or not armor that added resistances was too powerful or not against mages or something.
Edit: I just checked the armor (Thorium) and the set adds like +46 resistances. If I recall correctly, I believe the armor was nerfed because I remember it to be higher. I believe it used to be approximately in the 80s, which was approximately 10-20% resistances. This isn't concrete though, I may remember wrong.
Edited, Mon Nov 22 19:50:13 2004 by Korup
There was thread discussing whether or not armor that added resistances was too powerful or not against mages or something.
Edit: I just checked the armor (Thorium) and the set adds like +46 resistances. If I recall correctly, I believe the armor was nerfed because I remember it to be higher. I believe it used to be approximately in the 80s, which was approximately 10-20% resistances. This isn't concrete though, I may remember wrong.
Edited, Mon Nov 22 19:50:13 2004 by Korup
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Update, added Question^^
thx alot korup for looking for Infos. So u think theres some kind of internal % resistance code which is affected by Resistance Nr? So Hardiness would be a clear 25%greater Resist(miss?)chance?
Edited, Mon Nov 22 19:55:17 2004 by Lavim
thx alot korup for looking for Infos. So u think theres some kind of internal % resistance code which is affected by Resistance Nr? So Hardiness would be a clear 25%greater Resist(miss?)chance?
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14: Does a Character keeps attacking when drinking a Potion in Melee Combat, will he loose any Dps?
Potions are instant, and so if any time is lost, it's only a second or so.
Can you answer Question 9? The Info on Hardiness says its a 25% Resistance so its kinda confusing.
9: How does Orc Racial Trait "Hardiness" works vs an Melee Attack like Rogues Cheapshot?
If Hardiness gives +25% resistance, then it'll work against anything that tries to stun or knockout you.
Potions are instant, and so if any time is lost, it's only a second or so.
Can you answer Question 9? The Info on Hardiness says its a 25% Resistance so its kinda confusing.
9: How does Orc Racial Trait "Hardiness" works vs an Melee Attack like Rogues Cheapshot?
If Hardiness gives +25% resistance, then it'll work against anything that tries to stun or knockout you.
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Yes 1 Second is the Global Delay of every Used Abiltie or Spell. But 1 Second no Attack is alot when Dualwielding Daggers, if timed wrong u loose a whole round of swings. I guess i just have to test this when OB comes to Europe^^
Someone said Resistance can decrease Fear and Polymorph Durations, any Experience how much xx Arcane/Shadow will be needed to lower Duration by 10%?^^
So Enemy Stunn Abilities and Spells will miss/resist 25% more on an Orc? Sounds not bad
Keep up the Posting. Wish u all alot of Fun Today. Its American Release Day^^on my Desktop Clock it is.
I will post these Question on the offical Forum once its up again, then i post the missing Answers here.
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Edited, Mon Nov 22 20:14:58 2004 by Lavim
Someone said Resistance can decrease Fear and Polymorph Durations, any Experience how much xx Arcane/Shadow will be needed to lower Duration by 10%?^^
So Enemy Stunn Abilities and Spells will miss/resist 25% more on an Orc? Sounds not bad
Keep up the Posting. Wish u all alot of Fun Today. Its American Release Day^^on my Desktop Clock it is.
I will post these Question on the offical Forum once its up again, then i post the missing Answers here.
Edited, Mon Nov 22 20:05:17 2004 by Lavim
Edited, Mon Nov 22 20:07:12 2004 by Lavim
Edited, Mon Nov 22 20:14:58 2004 by Lavim
Hardiness is resistance against stun and knockouts, not the arcane, nature, fire, etc resistances.
Edit: Ah, see you got it. Anyways I'm not exactly sure about potions, whenever I used them I was running. ;)
Edited, Mon Nov 22 20:04:09 2004 by Korup
Edit: Ah, see you got it. Anyways I'm not exactly sure about potions, whenever I used them I was running. ;)
Edited, Mon Nov 22 20:04:09 2004 by Korup
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Updated and added a few Questions (-:
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I don't have any information for you, however, i have found every piece of this information valuable to me as a new player to Wow. I played ob a little but not enough to really dabble in the higher level playing, 14 was my highest. But hopefully my Dwarf Hunter-to-be will make his way up the ladder :)
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Im glad the Thread got some new Infos for you.
15: Can i use this Potion http://www.thottbot.com/?i=12594 when allready Stunned? The Description of Stun on the WoW Community Page reads, u cannot do anything while stunned. so i whonder, does u icons grey out when stunned?
Can't do anything while stunned. Not sure if the icons grey out but they probably do.
16: Is there a Set interval in that Dot and Bleed Spells/Effects damage their Target. An Example, if Rank 1 Moonfire does 12 Damage over Time for 9 Seconds will it tick 3 Times every 4 Seconds?
It's usually every 3 seconds.
18: Can i equip another Weapon while Disarmed, will an Offhand weapon Disarmed too?
No, it's called disarm for a reason. Though I could be wrong, never tested it, but highly doubtful it'll work.
Can't do anything while stunned. Not sure if the icons grey out but they probably do.
16: Is there a Set interval in that Dot and Bleed Spells/Effects damage their Target. An Example, if Rank 1 Moonfire does 12 Damage over Time for 9 Seconds will it tick 3 Times every 4 Seconds?
It's usually every 3 seconds.
18: Can i equip another Weapon while Disarmed, will an Offhand weapon Disarmed too?
No, it's called disarm for a reason. Though I could be wrong, never tested it, but highly doubtful it'll work.
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