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#1 Sep 03 2004 at 10:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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If you are playing beta or the stress test, please help us out in collecting data. Rale has developed a program similar to the Lucy item collector for Everquest that collects WoW info. You just need to install it on your computer and run it after you log out of each wow session. It will upload to our database every item you moused over, every quest you accepted and every mob you targetted, along with their location and any drop info if you killed them. It does not need to be running while you are actually playing, just run after you log out or quit. Thanks for the help.

The url to download the program is

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/wr-setup.exe

Feel free to post any problems you have or any feedback or suggestions.

Edited, Fri Sep 3 23:39:10 2004 by Allakhazam

Edited, Fri Nov 26 21:10:28 2004 by Allakhazam
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#2 Sep 04 2004 at 12:39 AM Rating: Decent
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kk will help till hurricane frances blows me away!!
#3 Sep 04 2004 at 1:07 AM Rating: Good
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Ah, now I don't have to package up my wdb files. Hurray for you! Oooh, and I have some delightful pics of some boss mobs to send in.
#5 Sep 04 2004 at 7:59 PM Rating: Good
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I got quite a few "Unkown mob: Mob name here" errors when I tried to load it up today. Is this because they aren't already in your database, or is there a problem recognizing their names, or what?
#6 Sep 04 2004 at 9:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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If you crashed when you logged out or tried to run it while still in the game, this would happen. Basically, the loc info saves when you click on it, but the actual mob info won't save until you log out of the game. So if you crashed, the loc of a mob will be there, but the mob's name won't and the program will tell you there's an unknown mob.
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#7 Sep 05 2004 at 2:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Hrmm... this should be interesting...

my only question:

How does your program interact with Cosmos?
(the custom UI program that adds in extra spell bars, and shows a few other things, it also uploads info - if you click the box to do so - and sends it to thottbot)

im having enough problems getting my damn game to run, i dunno if i wanna chance another external program to kick me in the groin every time i try to log in....
#8 Sep 05 2004 at 4:09 AM Rating: Good
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You use this program when you DON'T have WoW running, and it collects the info from your cache files and uploads it to WoW. The program is only open for about a minute. Run, upload, close. Then go play WoW.
#9 Sep 05 2004 at 1:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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The program saves you the time to send us the caches by mail and then the time it takes us to run that program on our own. It's like submitting with two clicks! :) It is an awesome program, Rale did a great job.

However we still take image submissions and quest info. Some quests need to have detailed information and the caches only give us the starting dialog and info, oh and the rewards.
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#10 Sep 05 2004 at 7:29 PM Rating: Decent
Just installed this and zipped a packagge today, keep up the great work alla.
#11 Sep 05 2004 at 9:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Few notes: The unknown mob popup happens when it has location data for a mob it hasn't cached yet, fix by exiting game, then running wowreader. (will adjust this later)

Cosmos: It should not interfere with any part of Cosmos or any other add on to the UI. If it does, this is a bug so please report it.

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#12 Sep 07 2004 at 2:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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Just a note, I just uploaded a new version with a small bugfix and removed the extra unknown mob/npc popups. It should be automatically downloaded next time you start the app, so nothing to worry about.

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#13 Sep 21 2004 at 6:28 PM Rating: Good
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ETA on the uploader for the new push?
#14 Sep 24 2004 at 3:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sorry for not posting sooner, it's already updated to work with this push. Theres a bug with the old version that may cause it to hang while trying to update - if you run into it, delete the 'uifiles' folder in the wowreader installation directory, and then run wowreader again, and it should finish it's update.

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#15 Sep 25 2004 at 1:02 PM Rating: Decent
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I ran into that problem running the updater for the first time, but before reading this, and I found that just cancelling and rerunning the program let it work itself out.

BTW, love new patches. Only time I ever manage to upload 653 new pieces of information at once.
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#16 Oct 02 2004 at 7:24 PM Rating: Decent
If I understand this app correctly (I am using it to help out the site), it is reading the database format files (wdb's in the WDB folder). Is the database format proprietary to Blizzard or is it some standard format? The reason I ask is, I think it would be cool to be able to export these databases to a format that is readable for tracking all quests and items per character. Have you heard of anyone creating an app like this? It probably wouldn't take much for you guys to alter the current app to display a list. What do you think?
#17 Oct 03 2004 at 10:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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Quote:

If I understand this app correctly (I am using it to help out the site), it is reading the database format files (wdb's in the WDB folder). Is the database format proprietary to Blizzard or is it some standard format? The reason I ask is, I think it would be cool to be able to export these databases to a format that is readable for tracking all quests and items per character. Have you heard of anyone creating an app like this? It probably wouldn't take much for you guys to alter the current app to display a list. What do you think?


You're correct, in that it parses the wdb files. Its a custom Blizzard file format, and they contain every item, quest, etc that any characters you've played have ever seen (well - they're reset each patch). Because they contain every quest you've seen, and not just ones you've started/accepted/finished, I'm not sure how useful displaying a list would be.
#18 Oct 14 2004 at 12:04 PM Rating: Decent
I'm assuming that Wowreader will not run on (Mac) OSX...

I'd be happy to help port your collection and parsing code over to the Mac platform to support the 10-20% of WoW players that use Macs.
#19 Oct 14 2004 at 12:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Our Lua gatherer works cross platform. and I'm working on porting the parser/uploader to OSX (since that's what I play wow on).

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#20 Oct 14 2004 at 12:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Whenever I try to upload, it tells me Login failed, check password. I know I am using the right name and password so what is up?

EDIT: Tried it anonymously and still resulted in the same error.

Edited, Thu Oct 14 13:44:41 2004 by Fafamer
#21 Oct 14 2004 at 12:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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There's a bug with logins at the moment, working on tracking it down.
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#22 Oct 14 2004 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
In the pipe, 5 by 5.
#23 Oct 15 2004 at 1:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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Just to update, the login error should be fixed now. If anyone sees any more errors pop up, let us know.
#24 Oct 15 2004 at 9:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Yep, its working great.
#25 Oct 15 2004 at 7:48 PM Rating: Decent
Saw your post on the WoW forums and installed the reader today. Sorry you got kinda flamed over there. I loved using this site for other games, hope my data can help with this one.
#26 Oct 15 2004 at 8:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Carrying over from my (anonymous) post on the WoW UI forums... I have the latest version of WowReader, I gave it permission out on my firewall (which is port inspecific by the way), and it's still telling me that it can't establish a connection -- even though I can it see it doing exactly that on my firewall's monitor, to db.allakhazam.com. Any thoughts?
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