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The point is that DPS should be in the MM tree, where it now is. SV is for survivability. Not DPS.
See this is where I think people differ here. Ask you and you say it is ok that my RaP gets nerfed if I put more spec into the Survival Tree.
The point is, previously the SV tree out-DPS'd the MM tree, and there was ONE stat for a hunter: agility (so itemization was a nightmare). Now. the MM tree is the top-DPS, and agi, RAP, and int are good stats for a hunter, and itemization will be better. The LR build with stacked agi is the only thing that was "nerfed" in terms of DPS, but you can get it back by going into a DPS tree.
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I am not saying my RaP should be the same as a MM build Hunter, I am saying my RaP should have stayed where it was before the patch. A MM Hunter should have more power but that power added on to what we used to have.
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Again, before SV was much HIGHER than a MM hunter at a certain point in end-game. Now it is lower than MM, but the MM DPS has improved. The swapping of importance of aimed shot and arcane shot will be a HUGE DPS buff in raids.
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Think about it for a sec. I put 41 points into MM and my DPS is only 6 better than what it used to be, I had no Trueshot Aura and no new AotHawk at lv60 before that.
If I went full Marks BEFORE the patch I would have had more DPS than I do now after the patch.
I DID go full marks before and I have more dps now, post-patch. You have to include TSA and other improvements (RWS, barrage, etc), not just look at your RAP. It's misleading.
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So answer me this, if this isn't a nerf, why would my 31 point talent Hunter have more DPS than my 41 Point Hunter?
Master Marksman directly affects your RAP (and will increase it more than TSA with the right gear).
Silencing shot isn't intended to increase DPS. I imagine that future encounters will require it. Blizzard is trying to make up for the fact that in max-min uber-endgame guilds, hunters were totally not keeping up with itemization. The addition of really tasty raid utility spells like misdirection and Silencing Shot will now require at least a couple of hunters.
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I never said my Surv Hunter should be on par with a MM Hunter with DPS that is foolish. But I believe that if I spec the way I had it my DPS should be on par with what I used to have.
But previously they out-performed MM. If you spec the way you had before you will have good (actually VERY good) survivability. That's because you picked the survivability tree. If you want DPS, you have to change your playstyle and select a different weapon. It's not that big a deal.