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#1 Jul 17 2008 at 10:27 PM Rating: Decent
I've been playing EQ2 for about 6 or 8 months now. I love the broker. Can't get enough of it. I watch the prices on rares regularly. I then buy and craft to sell. I know the general pattern. I know when to buy and what price to sell at. There are usually no more than 10 rares being sold by one person at one time. sometimes people will buy a bunch up at a low price and then try to sell them at a higher price. Then you get about 20 rares all bunched up. sometimes a few more. Anyway... Last week someone posted like 40 rares for a price that is below the competitive rate... These rares hadn't been bought up at a lower price. They had been newly introduced to the broker. This is bad for people like me who work the broker because the supply of items you craft that require that item will inevitably go up, the price you sell them at will go down (This means I lose money!). People who had been buying rares at the original high price can't compete on the broker anymore without losing money. It's the classic big business vs small business scenario (Wal-Mart moving to Canada if you will). I bought up as much as I could cautiously. The next day he came up with like another 30 rares at a lower price! Within one week this guy must have sold over 100 of the same rare. If this guy is legit, bravo. Maybe he or she has been saving for a long time, or just lives and breaths to harvest. I'm all for healthy competition (Even if it's kicking my ***! so long as it's legitimately kicking my ***). But if it's one of these "harvesters from China" I keep reading about how can I find out? What do I do? Is there anyone else out there who has had a similar experience?

PS This individual is now using the broker to sell both the rare at a really low price while simultaneously crafting with that same rare and selling the crafted items at a rock bottom to slightly below rock bottom price.


#2 Jul 17 2008 at 10:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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All you can do is submit a /petition outlining your suspicions and any facts you have to back them up. Give them as much information as you can. The GM's will research and make a determination.

Be aware that they are quite thorough before they decide to ban someone for EULA violating stuff and that you'll never hear from them directly if they did or did not take action.
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#3 Jul 22 2008 at 8:20 PM Rating: Good
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It was probably me :) I will always price my rares lower then everyone else, but I assure you I'm not one of those rmt's. I just so barely started (My main is only level 30) and I price things to sell because this early in the game bank and broker space is more valuable then the couple extra gold I could potentially get for an item. I guess it's the way I've always used market systems in any game. Find the lowest price, and make mine lower.

I'm not trying to make items worth less, just get them out of my inventory faster.
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#4 Jul 29 2008 at 9:18 AM Rating: Good
A couple years back, a guildie of mine cleaned out his bank by dumping all his rares on the market at fire sale prices, just to get rid of them. There were high level rare harvests where he had managed to accumulate several hundred by the time he decided to sell off! (I think he said he had over 700 of one rare metal... cobalt maybe)

He had been a market speculator, buying up anything he saw that fell below a specific price point with the intent to sell it when the market was slim and he could make a good profit. However, when he finally did sell off, it was because he had plenty of money but needed some space!

In all probability, you are seeing a seller who is clearing out of something he has been saving for a very long time.
#5 Aug 06 2008 at 2:22 PM Rating: Decent
In relation to your post about rare harvesters (farmers), I've seen something recently that I thought was a bit disturbing. I've seen players running around a zone, approaching (and I assume targeting) a node, then running off after a second or two without harvesting the node. They do this to every node in sight, but only harvest from a few. I've noticed that when this happens, my ability to harvest rares nearly drops to zero.

My concern is that they have somehow found a way to tap into the game data stream and determine which nodes will produce a rare without having to harvest the node. They only harvest nodes that will produce a rare.

I don't even know if this is possible and perhaps I'm being overly paranoid. I don't have anything other than my own observations of what I thought was odd behavior on the part of some players, and my sense that the rares seemed a little too rare when I noticed players doing this.

Has anyone else heard of something like this going on?
#6 Aug 06 2008 at 4:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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My concern is that they have somehow found a way to tap into the game data stream and determine which nodes will produce a rare without having to harvest the node. They only harvest nodes that will produce a rare.


They're probably using a node-finding bot, which does exist, and the getting there and either not wanting that node or their inventory is full and no one is minding the toon. I'd /petition them as possibly using a bot and let the GM's sort it out.

I think the dev quote poofed with the old forums, but what you get on a pull form a node is generated when you do it, courtesy of the RNG, not pre-determined.
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#7 Aug 12 2008 at 12:52 PM Rating: Good
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I think the dev quote poofed with the old forums, but what you get on a pull form a node is generated when you do it, courtesy of the RNG, not pre-determined.

That is my recollection too. Nodes are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you'll get until you hit one with a shovel or pickaxe!
#9 Sep 15 2008 at 7:17 AM Rating: Excellent
I bumped in to a farmer last week on Venekor which was sort of surprising. I watched them skip around the nodes in an automaton nature out of curiosity. Then of course I used the tools at my disposal to determine for sure if they were a bot or not. I killed them. XD

Sure enough, that fella layed on the ground for a good hour before he finally revived and started all over again. I killed him about 4 more times for the gold he was carrying and the faction gain before /reporting him. Haven't seen him in Rivervale since. ^^
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