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#77 May 30 2014 at 9:01 AM Rating: Good
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HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
You can argue about game design philosophy all you like I suppose. So what if they make Titan Ex and Twintania easier than they already have? The next thing you will be complaining about is Turn 7. OK so they nerf Turn 7. Then you'll complain about 9.

Please just learn to accept your limitations instead of the entitled behavior displayed. It took me around 25 hours to learn and down T9. Twintania took around 20 hours 6 months ago. Titan Ex took around 5 hours.

I "learned" how to clear Titan EX. But I still can't clear Titan EX because it's not a solo fight. Plenty of people are doing Turn 7 and Turn 9, and that number will only increase over time. I also see plenty of Twintania farming groups in PF. Titan EX? I never see one that's a "farming group". I occasionally see "weekly clear" groups. But the vast majority of Titan EX PF groups I see are "need clear" groups.

People who have been doing Titan EX since the content came out have had plenty of time to get all of the Rowena's tokens gear that they'll ever need or want. They have no reason to repeat this content now, so the pool of players capable of clearing and actively seeking to participate is much smaller than Turn 5, Turn 7 or Turn 9. The sad thing is that SE was already trying to address issues like this by making fights easier. But with this particular fight, echo doesn't mean much.

So I guess this is intended to be content only for people with statics?
#78 May 30 2014 at 1:01 PM Rating: Decent
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BartelX wrote:
Well let's see. I haven't played since March roughly. Everything I've posted is observations from other people in this forum or other FFXIV forums, or my direct experiences in game from when I did play. From what I've read, nothing has really changed server stability-wise since then. Just because you don't have connection issues doesn't mean others don't, and it certainly doesn't give you the right to pass judgement on who you think is skilled or not. You know nothing about each situation other than assumptions you make about player skill simply because you can't fathom other people have connection problems, or problems finding a good static to clear the content.


Well let's see...I've DF'd Titan Ex around 24 times since March and I jump in PF groups weekly for fun on SCH and MNK. So yes: I think it does. I don't think anyone in those completely random DF and PF groups ever complained about connection issues.

I know that you haven't cleared this fight since March. I know that I have friends in the UK and in Austrailia that are both in my FC and in my LS's that have cleared this without issue on a NA datacenter.

My raid group consists of someone from the UK. Would you like to know his ping? I'm pretty sure it's, at a minimum, 3 times greater than yours is at any given time.

In fact, you have no right to complain. He's a good indicator of why your complaints about connection issues are totally debunk.

BartelX wrote:
Yeah, we're I'm the ones being childish.


That's much better. Most of your posts are like reading entitled crap from the OF.

svlyons wrote:
I "learned" how to clear Titan EX. But I still can't clear Titan EX because it's not a solo fight. Plenty of people are doing Turn 7 and Turn 9, and that number will only increase over time. I also see plenty of Twintania farming groups in PF. Titan EX? I never see one that's a "farming group". I occasionally see "weekly clear" groups. But the vast majority of Titan EX PF groups I see are "need clear" groups.


So how do you account for people like me who just join because they're bored and end up clearing it with PF groups anyways?

svlyons wrote:
People who have been doing Titan EX since the content came out have had plenty of time to get all of the Rowena's tokens gear that they'll ever need or want. They have no reason to repeat this content now, so the pool of players capable of clearing and actively seeking to participate is much smaller than Turn 5, Turn 7 or Turn 9. The sad thing is that SE was already trying to address issues like this by making fights easier. But with this particular fight, echo doesn't mean much.


You know they drop accessories, right? Some of those accessories are quite good. I had to go back recently and do Titan on my MNK for the earring, actually.

svlyons wrote:
So I guess this is intended to be content only for people with statics?


Very good. So what we've learned is....

You should be lobbying for content somewhere between CT (too easy/casual) and extremes/coil (too hardcore/time consuming): not trying to change existing content.

I think I just said something about this the other day, in fact...

HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
Hm I'd argue that good MMOs manage to please almost all of their audiences.

We're about to enter yet another period where one crowd is given a hefty amount of the content and the other is shafted a little bit. And this cycle continues every 3 months. I hope if and when you return, they've come up with a more balanced schedule for patches.


Edited, May 30th 2014 3:02pm by HitomeOfBismarck
#79 May 30 2014 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
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HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
svlyons wrote:
I "learned" how to clear Titan EX. But I still can't clear Titan EX because it's not a solo fight. Plenty of people are doing Turn 7 and Turn 9, and that number will only increase over time. I also see plenty of Twintania farming groups in PF. Titan EX? I never see one that's a "farming group". I occasionally see "weekly clear" groups. But the vast majority of Titan EX PF groups I see are "need clear" groups.


So how do you account for people like me who just join because they're bored and end up clearing it with PF groups anyways?

I account for people like you with my fingers. Because I probably won't need to involve my toes to count all of you guys. Also, you must have magical powers that makes everyone else in your random group of people better, a power that I lack. Or maybe your server is just better than mine.

HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
svlyons wrote:
People who have been doing Titan EX since the content came out have had plenty of time to get all of the Rowena's tokens gear that they'll ever need or want. They have no reason to repeat this content now, so the pool of players capable of clearing and actively seeking to participate is much smaller than Turn 5, Turn 7 or Turn 9. The sad thing is that SE was already trying to address issues like this by making fights easier. But with this particular fight, echo doesn't mean much.


You know they drop accessories, right? Some of those accessories are quite good. I had to go back recently and do Titan on my MNK for the earring, actually.

I know Titan EX drops earrings. I also know that weathered earrings are better, can be upgraded to be even better, and you can get the one that you want for your job instead of hoping the right one drops and you don't get outlotted for it. I used to see more extreme primal farming groups in PF before 2.2. These days, the only primal farming groups I see are for Leviathan EX.
#80 May 30 2014 at 2:47 PM Rating: Decent
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svlyons wrote:
I account for people like you with my fingers. Because I probably won't need to involve my toes to count all of you guys. Also, you must have magical powers that makes everyone else in your random group of people better, a power that I lack. Or maybe your server is just better than mine.


You must have a lot of fingers. Queue for Roulette: Trial and behold. There are plenty of people with shiny new gear that can only use it once a week due to coil lockouts. So where do these people go to test this gear?

Which brings me to my next point...

svlyons wrote:
I know Titan EX drops earrings. I also know that weathered earrings are better, can be upgraded to be even better, and you can get the one that you want for your job instead of hoping the right one drops and you don't get outlotted for it. I used to see more extreme primal farming groups in PF before 2.2. These days, the only primal farming groups I see are for Leviathan EX.


You seem to have found the magic elixir that allows you to uncap your weekly soldiery limits. The day I can spend soldiery on Hitome's MNK is...the day I finish gearing up a new job (BRD) 2 months into the patch.

So surprise: 1st coil and extreme accessories are usually great for alts...which many players have.

Also, ponies.

Edited, May 30th 2014 4:48pm by HitomeOfBismarck
#81 May 30 2014 at 4:03 PM Rating: Good
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HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
BartelX wrote:
Yeah, we're I'm the ones being childish.


That's much better. Most of your posts are like reading entitled crap from the OF.


And yet you seem to be the one flinging insults around...

That's fine, I really don't mind, because it doesn't make you any more right. Enjoy the game. Smiley: wink
#82 May 30 2014 at 4:31 PM Rating: Good
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HitomeOfBismarck wrote:


You seem to have found the magic elixir that allows you to uncap your weekly soldiery limits. The day I can spend soldiery on Hitome's MNK is...the day I finish gearing up a new job (BRD) 2 months into the patch.

So surprise: 1st coil and extreme accessories are usually great for alts...which many players have.

Also, ponies.

Edited, May 30th 2014 4:48pm by HitomeOfBismarck


Well 1:

Primal Accessories are outdated if you end up buying sol accessories, depending of course.
2. You don't need "unlimited sol", some spread it out if they're not hardcore pushing through Turn 9.
3. I90 works perfectly fine for 99% of the content in this game currently, that includes Hero/Allagan (First Coil) gear, so you don't NEED to be beyond i90 if you're not pushing through Second Coil.

So I guess you're saying those who focus all tomes on their main? Yeah, but not EVERYONE does that though and those that don't honestly has no need for Primal accessories.

Maybe Moogle one though, as that's new still.
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#83 May 30 2014 at 4:34 PM Rating: Decent
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BartelX wrote:
I'm not going to address any of the points: I'll just talk semantics to detract from my lack of a retort because that's what I've been doing in this thread and again in this thread with Hyanmen


Well this does sound about right when your MO is considered.

I do enjoy the game. Ifrit Ex is quite fun as is just about everything in the 2nd coil. Only complaint is only being able to do them once per week on a single character...but then again, that's why I have Hito Yu.

I'll have Ruelems/Oppai Le'sponge (the player from the UK) send you some tips if you'd like.

Theonehio wrote:
Well 1:

Primal Accessories are outdated if you end up buying sol accessories, depending of course.
2. You don't need "unlimited sol", some spread it out if they're not hardcore pushing through Turn 9.
3. I90 works perfectly fine for 99% of the content in this game currently, that includes Hero/Allagan (First Coil) gear, so you don't NEED to be beyond i90 if you're not pushing through Second Coil.

So I guess you're saying those who focus all tomes on their main? Yeah, but not EVERYONE does that though and those that don't honestly has no need for Primal accessories.

Maybe Moogle one though, as that's new still.


I have 6 alts (BLM main): SMN (shared gear...not so much with spell speed), SCH, MNK, PLD, BRD, and WHM.

I need 1500 soldiery to obtain all the accessories per job: 1125 with Moogle Ex neck. This does not include soldiery weapons (1300...different for PLD), belts, and anything on the left side.

So yes: 1st coil and Titan accessories are very relevant to me and others because it is the only way we will get gear for those jobs in a relevant fashion.

My WHM and SCH still use quite a few of the accessories since I 1) don't have the spare myth to spend and 2) have not had the opportunity to lot on healer accessories in the first coil. Even 1125 soldiery will take 3 weeks to acquire and trust me: I don't want to be spending it purely on accessories for alts.

Edited, May 30th 2014 6:42pm by HitomeOfBismarck
#84 May 30 2014 at 4:43 PM Rating: Good
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Why should I reply to your argument when you're just hurling insults? I'm not going to apologize for my point of view, and I think you're being pretty self-centered about the whole thing. I'm honestly just trying to end this discussion because it's not proving anything. I know that means you think you somehow won, so congratulations, you should be proud.

I'll say this again and hope you get the message this time... enjoy your game.

Edited, May 30th 2014 6:45pm by BartelX
#85 May 30 2014 at 9:10 PM Rating: Good
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HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
svlyons wrote:
I account for people like you with my fingers. Because I probably won't need to involve my toes to count all of you guys. Also, you must have magical powers that makes everyone else in your random group of people better, a power that I lack. Or maybe your server is just better than mine.

You must have a lot of fingers. Queue for Roulette: Trial and behold. There are plenty of people with shiny new gear that can only use it once a week due to coil lockouts. So where do these people go to test this gear?

Trial Roulette does not include Titan EX, or any of the Extreme Primal fights for that matter.
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