im sure people have noticed by now, but they changed the way you interact with your fairy considerably. its pretty annoying now to get it to do stuff. the only thing I wanted changed was for it to stop casting its AoE regen by itself. now it is completely manual. unless your paying attention to your fairy, she will do absolutely NOTHING. you can of couse use sic to let her do whatever she wants...but now you cant click her abilities.
they should have just added a manual mode button and left obey alone, barring not letting her use her AoE regen.
what do you guys think? am I the only one who doesn't like what they did? or is everyone with me on this? your guys thoughts?
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OMG I'm going to lose my mind about this.
Here's my process / fight with Eos:
Cast Phisick, try to get Eos to cast Embrace during GCD
"You cannot do this because Eos is in 'Free Mode'"
Set Sic to hot bar
Sic doesn't work if Im not targeting a mob
Try to target a mob
Success! You can now do what you used to do.
Fairy Dies.
Swiftcast > Call Fairy
Cast Phisick > Embrace
"You cannot do this because Eos is in 'Free Mode'"
Try, even more paniced, to target a mob as your tank, who has only been receiving half cures during this time, dies.
Quit the scholar job forever.
Edited, Dec 18th 2013 12:12am by Louiscool
Here's my process / fight with Eos:
Cast Phisick, try to get Eos to cast Embrace during GCD
"You cannot do this because Eos is in 'Free Mode'"
Set Sic to hot bar
Sic doesn't work if Im not targeting a mob
Try to target a mob
Success! You can now do what you used to do.
Fairy Dies.
Swiftcast > Call Fairy
Cast Phisick > Embrace
"You cannot do this because Eos is in 'Free Mode'"
Try, even more paniced, to target a mob as your tank, who has only been receiving half cures during this time, dies.
Quit the scholar job forever.
Edited, Dec 18th 2013 12:12am by Louiscool
Yeah I'm in agreement with you two. This is horrid. :| I would prefer the old system with new system's macros TBQH.
HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
Yeah I'm in agreement with you two. This is horrid. :| I would prefer the old system with new system's macros TBQH.
Yeah! This new system single-handedly killed my entire team when my fairy ate an unfortunate sandworm in Copperbell Hard and I couldn't figure out how to take her out of free mode after recalling her.
Edited, Dec 18th 2013 8:54am by Louiscool
If the issue is mostly free mode then what you might find useful is to macro the summon. For instance:
/macroicon "Summon"
/ac "Swiftcast" <me>
/wait
/ac "Summon" <me>
/wait
/pac "Obey" <me>
I haven't tested it, but I think that macro should put your pet on obey right after it has been summoned. Not sure about the syntax if obey uses <me> or <t>, and if swiftcast CD is down you will need a longer /wait time.
/macroicon "Summon"
/ac "Swiftcast" <me>
/wait
/ac "Summon" <me>
/wait
/pac "Obey" <me>
I haven't tested it, but I think that macro should put your pet on obey right after it has been summoned. Not sure about the syntax if obey uses <me> or <t>, and if swiftcast CD is down you will need a longer /wait time.
As far as I am aware, Obey must be used on a hostile target.
Free mode is a LOT better on Selene than Eos. She times the Fey speed buffs perfectly so that one is always up.
Free mode is a LOT better on Selene than Eos. She times the Fey speed buffs perfectly so that one is always up.
Canadensis wrote:
If the issue is mostly free mode then what you might find useful is to macro the summon. For instance:
/macroicon "Summon"
/ac "Swiftcast" <me>
/wait 1
/ac "Summon" <me>
/wait 7
/pac "Obey" <me>
I haven't tested it, but I think that macro should put your pet on obey right after it has been summoned. Not sure about the syntax if obey uses <me> or <t>, and if swiftcast CD is down you will need a longer /wait time.
/macroicon "Summon"
/ac "Swiftcast" <me>
/wait 1
/ac "Summon" <me>
/wait 7
/pac "Obey" <me>
I haven't tested it, but I think that macro should put your pet on obey right after it has been summoned. Not sure about the syntax if obey uses <me> or <t>, and if swiftcast CD is down you will need a longer /wait time.
Just need to add values for the wait times (see bolded numbers above). Because Swiftcast is an instant, the first wait needs only be 1. The second wait is 7 to make sure you finish casting Summon, which has a 6 second cast time.
Does Obey work targeted on <me>?
Edited, Dec 18th 2013 12:47pm by Gnu
Edited, Dec 18th 2013 12:48pm by Gnu
Gnu wrote:
Canadensis wrote:
If the issue is mostly free mode then what you might find useful is to macro the summon. For instance:
/macroicon "Summon"
/ac "Swiftcast" <me>
/wait 1
/ac "Summon" <me>
/wait 7
/pac "Obey" <me>
I haven't tested it, but I think that macro should put your pet on obey right after it has been summoned. Not sure about the syntax if obey uses <me> or <t>, and if swiftcast CD is down you will need a longer /wait time.
/macroicon "Summon"
/ac "Swiftcast" <me>
/wait 1
/ac "Summon" <me>
/wait 7
/pac "Obey" <me>
I haven't tested it, but I think that macro should put your pet on obey right after it has been summoned. Not sure about the syntax if obey uses <me> or <t>, and if swiftcast CD is down you will need a longer /wait time.
Just need to add values for the wait times (see bolded numbers above). Because Swiftcast is an instant, the first wait needs only be 1. The second wait is 7 to make sure you finish casting Summon, which has a 6 second cast time.
Does Obey work targeted on <me>?
Edited, Dec 18th 2013 12:47pm by Gnu
Edited, Dec 18th 2013 12:48pm by Gnu
Well, those numbers aren't completely necessary.
/wait
Is the exact same thing as
/wait 1
Try it for yourself. You only have to add a number if you want to wai longer than 1.
In regards to the /wait 7 line - that only applies if Swiftcast is on CD. If Swiftcast is ready, you don't want to have to wait 7 seconds for obey... May as well just do it manually at that point. To cover all options the macro could be:
/macroicon "Summon"
/ac "Swiftcast" <me>
/wait
/ac "Summon" <me>
/wait
/pac "Obey" <t>
/wait 6
/pac "Obey" <t>
This way, regardless if Swiftcast is ready or not, obey will be used right after summoning. If you are using Swiftcast I would want Obey ready as fast as possible, because odds are if it is not used right after the summon is Swiftcast in, you are likely already hitting other macros and the /wait 7 will get interrupted leaving you in free stance.
Canadensis wrote:
/wait
Is the exact same thing as
/wait 1
/macroicon "Summon"
/ac "Swiftcast" <me>
/wait
/ac "Summon" <me>
/wait
/pac "Obey" <t>
/wait 6
/pac "Obey" <t>
This way, regardless if Swiftcast is ready or not, obey will be used right after summoning. If you are using Swiftcast I would want Obey ready as fast as possible, because odds are if it is not used right after the summon is Swiftcast in, you are likely already hitting other macros and the /wait 7 will get interrupted leaving you in free stance.
Oh sweet, new Macro information. Thanks a ton! I did not know about the /wait.
Have you tested this?
Is Obey a toggle? or would activating it twice turn it off?
Also, do you have to have the Pet targeted for the Obey part of the macro to work? If you just summoned him, will it target him automatically for this?
Edited, Dec 19th 2013 10:15am by Gnu
Gnu wrote:
Canadensis wrote:
/wait
Is the exact same thing as
/wait 1
/macroicon "Summon"
/ac "Swiftcast" <me>
/wait
/ac "Summon" <me>
/wait
/pac "Obey" <t>
/wait 6
/pac "Obey" <t>
This way, regardless if Swiftcast is ready or not, obey will be used right after summoning. If you are using Swiftcast I would want Obey ready as fast as possible, because odds are if it is not used right after the summon is Swiftcast in, you are likely already hitting other macros and the /wait 7 will get interrupted leaving you in free stance.
Oh sweet, new Macro information. Thanks a ton! I did not know about the /wait.
Have you tested this?
Is Obey a toggle? or would activating it twice turn it off?
Also, do you have to have the Pet targeted for the Obey part of the macro to work? If you just summoned him, will it target him automatically for this?
Edited, Dec 19th 2013 10:15am by Gnu
I have not yet actually tested this macro myself. I don't play SCH a whole lot and had already been in the habit of always setting my Garuda to Obey on SMN anyways, so i haven't really had to change my play style from 2.0.
That being said, obey is not a toggle, you can press obey as many times as you want. Until the pet dies, is resummoned or you take a zone (eg. Teleporters in CM) the pet will stay in obey. Edit: of course issuing another pet command like steady or guard would also interrupt obey. I often have Gaurda in either obey or steady, so I like to use them both manually.
Obey must be used on a hostile target though. An above poster mentioned that and I confirmed it last night playing around with it in town. <me> will not work for obey. So if you are SCH and don't want to take your target off the tank maybe use <tt> for obey.
Edited, Dec 19th 2013 11:01am by Canadensis
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