ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
Now if anyone reading this thinks this is elitist, I assure you that's not my view.
No you are not elitist. I think you are just mad at ppl who join pugs undergeared. A true example of an elitist was the **** last night who booted me out of a prae run simply becuase I was on PS3, and instead of waiting 5 seconds to cross the purple barrier he zerg rushed it on purpose so I would get locked out of two battles. Booted me and told me "Get a computer". Grrr. I can cancel immediately when the cs comes up, then another cs comes up and i immediately cancel, then I bum rush to the purple line and one second before I arrive the 15 seconds are up. I really think they do it on purpose to see how many they lock out. I wish their computers would explode so they can play on ps3 and see how it feels.
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Dead weight, boat anchors, gimp...take whatever label you want and use it if you don't understand leeching. If someone isn't pulling their weight, that's exactly what they are. I'm not going to continue to argue semantics with you. Crap is crap... There is a huge difference between crappy gear and elite gear. DL is not elite gear either despite public opinion. Relic ilv90 gear covers that honor.
There exists a thing in nature, a phenominon quite frankly, which is defined as a symbiote. In the medical field, leeches are used to remove blood clots (beneficial purposes). One member might need protection while providing light, or food, or something else beneficial to the protector. Is a whm leeching off of the tank because the tank provides protection? Or is the tank leeching off of the whm because he can't cure himself effectively? And is the dd just leeching off of them both for protection and heals, or are they both leeching off of the dd because neither the tank or the whm can effectively do damage? Puts it into perspective, and you can't defeat that point unless you are just here to argue.
In the FC, we function a lot like a party of adventurers. Not sure if you quite understand that based on your last post, so I'll clarify. There was a severely undergeared scholar who joined the FC. Cool guy. I helped him through Hydra, then Ifrit, then Garuda. But then guess what, after Garuda, the guy zipped off and got himself geared, got his relic before me, and then helped me get mine. If I would have never helped him, would he have been there to help me through titan? Karma is a *****, and a saint, and could be why you have your current stance.
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I realize things were different for you, but that's not relevant to this conversation. We need to focus on the here and now, not the past. Currently there is no damn excuse for anyone to have gimpy gear on an AK run. Unless they're either A) disrespectful, B) unaware of the raid's challenge. It's typically one of those answers. I don't have a problem with B, but A does irk me. There isn't a catch 22 anymore so let's drop that tiresome argument.
Ok, focus on the here and now. You want an army. You want a group of soldiers who can rip the crap out of whatever is in front of them. You want the coil. Problem is, you are stuck with a bunch of farmers with pitchforks and potato sacks. Are they disrespectful for wanting to rush into battle in their potato sacks? Nope, they want it as bad as you do. Your job in the FC, with all your awesome gear, is to help those folks get awesome gear so when they are beside you in battle you dont all get mowed down. You are helping them, but you are also helping yourself my building up your companions.
Perhaps you are referring more to duty finder, or pugs. I am referring to a team.
Edited, Oct 3rd 2013 10:39am by Valkayree 
As for AK, well, as a dd beforehand you could afford to do a few cm runs to get some darklight pieces, or have a relic dd guide you through your first AK so you can buy the gc weapon that is better than ifrit. It is defintely a tough dungeon to run, even with an ifrit weapon. 
