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#127 May 25 2009 at 5:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok, so basically, you're just going to ignore the fact that you've been using the same flawed(and now proven false) arguments, the fact that I've called you out on it, and the fact that I've made it fairly clear that I know I'm a **** and don't expect people to think anything else, just to continue arguing with me to make yourself feel even better?

You're cool, dude.


There is no flawed argument because there is no argument. I'm curious where you get one from. I made a simple comment a while ago in defence of someone and in response you insulted me and have continued to do so ever since. Your original posts are there for all to see Jinte.

In response to seeing I had defended someone made fun of for poor spelling you launched into a giant attack on me, trying to make me out to be a bad guy for daring to point out that being nasty to someone just reflected badly on you and there was no need for it.

Ever since then you have flip flopped between admitting your an **** then getting hysterical and defensive when it's pointed out you're an ***** making yourself out to be an Internet tough guy, then making yourself out to be a victim as though you're the one being made fun of and so on and so on.

The simple point still remains that as you illustrated so eloquently in your opening posts in this thread, you're a sneering, hypocritical web cliché who wants to treat everyone else like **** but have everyone love you for it and not say anything bad in response.


But you're not arguing, right? Smiley: grin
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Yea, I totally posted in CB's thread. I didn't know that until now, though, thanks for letting me know about that!

I was hoping you could salvage something out of your ***, but you're not living up to it, so I'm done. If you're going to start telling people about the posts that I never made, then there's no reason for me to continue, as you're playing dirty. There's no honor in an argument won by cheating and slander. You disgust me.
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There's no honor in an argument won by cheating and slander. You disgust me.
There's honor in winning internet arguments?
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#130 May 25 2009 at 6:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Professor Jinte wrote:
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The evil me is wondering when this became comedian of the month instead of player of the month.
Remember who the first PotM was?
Or second. Or third ...
you wanna play with him, gaxey? He's been trying to insult you, too, and I'm getting bored. Smiley: snore
I would, but the Spongebob Squarepants movie is on, and frankly, that's much more interesting.
heh, after reading that avesta thread, where he really had no justification in attacking you, I must say that I agree. Jtf, I'm bored with you. You've got no good points to argue, and there's no reason for me to continue wasting my time just to make you feel better about yourself, as this has lost its humor. For the record though, I called you a tard once, in this thread, having only a brief knowledge of your actions, not relating to your favorite threads (the end results, of which, you seem to have misunderstood). You seem proud of your attacking lolgaxe, and nilatai, who I consider to be good friends. I made a one word insult in their defense, and you go off on a tangent about how the world knows I'm a terrible person. So yea, I'm totally the one making personal attacks at people.

Pot, Kettle, Black, you get the drill.


A recurring theme throughout this thread has been you being a clone Jinte and if this is really your last post here then I guess it's fitting you should end with just one more clone comment - that of trying to claim hypocrisy when there is none.

No one has attacked you or lolgaxe or Nilatai. If you blindly attack others and act like the aforementioned web idiot type then people are entitled to point out what you are in response, especially when you happily admit to being what they say you are. If people point out you've done nasty things or have been a nasty person then those aren't insults or attacks are they? It's just an accurate description of you.

Once again your mentality is that no one should ever point out what you are or what you've done else they are attacking you and you're a victim which is just ludicrous.

Your blind support for lolgaxe is also ridiculous. You must realise how a message board works. You must know that the posts are in date order, time stamped from top to bottom?

If you read the whole Avesta thread from beginning to end you would have seen that lolgaxe came in and started with his crap that anyone who said anything nice about Avesta was a blind worshipper. You would also see Nilatai label everyone as retards before anyone said anything bad towards him.

The whole thread rated them down into oblivion so why focus on me?

Once again you show the mentality that you guys should be allowed to attack everyone and if anyone responds you are victims and they are bad people.

The thread is there for everyone to see for goodness sake yet you just pretend it's not as it is.

If you are really leaving the thread then good riddance. Shame it isn't the site.
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For the tl;dr of this thread, I offer the following:
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#132 May 25 2009 at 6:17 PM Rating: Good
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Stilivan wrote:
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"Why are we all fighting with eachtother! This should stop!"

"You stop first."

"No, you stop first!"

"No... you stop first"

"You stop first before I stop first."


= this thread and the lulz that's going on.


That's not what this thread is about.

This thread is about Jinte and Nilatai illustrating why they and their type have their reputation. How they preach their Internet tough guy talk but think it applies to everyone but them.

2 months ago and again last week I made a comment about treating fellow posters a little better. In response to that tiny contribution, you have these pages of hate and anger from Jinte and Nilatai.

The angrier they get, especially Jinte with all his clichéd Internet tough guy talk of treating people like puppies, being 'merciful' and posting crap on purpose to make people think they were doing that all along highlights who and what they are far better than I ever could.


I lurked both threads mentioned. Not interested/cared.

Why are you posting if you don't want them to stop being internet jerks? I can understand you feel you need to do what you're doing, but take it to PMs.

Same reason as the other two, they're trying to get you to stop while at the same time claiming they're having a great time out of all this.

So basically, you're both trying to stop each other from doing what you're doing and going in circles. Yay.

Frankly, not enough people care about what either of you are talking about. Well, I can't speak for everyone, so to correct myself, I don't care. I do find your arguments correct, but I also agree that what you're doing is beyond pointless. They're not going to throw in the towel or agree with anything you're saying. Therefore, this will continue until one of you all quit or an admin takes measures.

Take it to PMs.



Edited, May 25th 2009 8:11pm by Stilivan


i agree with you on the futility, but i also think jiftaru is a rampaging idiot who mistakes his own feelings for someone's "reputation". jiftaru reminds of mellowy and lobi in that literally everything they say seems to be stupid. it's as if they try to find the wrong side and then come down on it.

anyway, newsflash everyone: none of this matters. free premium for a month or more is cool. getting to read an interview with victrola would be really cool. your opinion about who the greatest alla poster ever is not very interesting. your opinion of jiftaru or nilitai is not interesting (my opinion of it isn't interesting either). vote for who you want, take it lightly, say nice things, everything goes well. i'm going against my advice, but (for better or worse) i wouldn't care about any of this even if it did matter.

edit: by the way, jiftaru/jinte argument summary:

<jiftaru> (deluded internet white knight nonsense)
<jinte> (trolling)
(repeat)

jiftaru is sad and annoying. everything is annoying. my head hurts.

Edited, May 25th 2009 10:23pm by milich
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#133 May 25 2009 at 6:21 PM Rating: Decent
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free premium for a month or more is cool.
You don't get premium for a month for winning anymore.
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#134 May 25 2009 at 6:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Quit trying to be so goddamn righteous on an internet message board. You're not revealing who they really are. You're not the first one who will try to "expose" them, and you won't be the last. Any long time readers/posters on here know precisely what kind of posters these guys are. Speaking specifically of Nil and gaxe, if you had ever frequented the job forums that they do a lot of posting in, you'd have to acknowledge their contributions there. As it is, you've made no mention of said contributions, and only reference their generally nonsensical posting habits in =10. Clearly you do not see the full picture.

I'll just end with this: if you truly think that responding to them repeatedly is going to change any significant number of people's minds about them, you're sadly mistaken. If you think that they don't want you to keep replying to them, you're sadly mistaken on that account as well. Look at their post counts. It's plainly obvious that they like to post on this message board. You're only giving them an excuse to continue to do so.


I've seen them at work in the job forums. They are the same as they are here. I'm not the slightest bit righteous. Stubborn maybe though. I just like to see things through. I'm sure as hell not going to go through this again in another thread. Might as well finish it here.

I'm sorry if you didn't like the thread but I'm afraid you show the same mentality as them in what you say. We are on topic as this relates to my nomination so what's your problem? YOU don't like my posts so I should do what you want?

If you don't like a thread, just... don't go in it. I do that all the time. It's why I don't spend my time in threads I don't like. Or you could rate me down.

Either way, I personally felt that the things needed to be said and I'm happy they were.

Earlier on I was told that they wanted me to stop posting and replying to them now you say they like me replying to them. To be honest, I'm not really that interested in what goes through their tortured little minds. Half the time I don't think they know.


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Argument
1. an oral disagreement; verbal opposition; contention; altercation: a violent argument.
2. a discussion involving differing points of view; debate: They were deeply involved in an argument about inflation.
3. a process of reasoning; series of reasons: I couldn't follow his argument.
4. a statement, reason, or fact for or against a point: This is a strong argument in favor of her theory.
5. an address or composition intended to convince or persuade; persuasive discourse.
6. subject matter; theme: The central argument of his paper was presented clearly.
7. an abstract or summary of the major points in a work of prose or poetry, or of sections of such a work.
8. Mathematics.
a. an independent variable of a function.
b. Also called amplitude. the angle made by a given vector with the reference axis.
c. the angle corresponding to a point representing a given complex number in polar coordinates. Compare principal argument.
9. Computers. a variable in a program, to which a value will be assigned when the program is run: often given in parentheses following a function name and used to calculate the function.
10. Obsolete.
a. evidence or proof.
b. a matter of contention.

sounds kinda like this thread to me...

Your arguments have no substance other than reiterating the comments I have towards them. Your pride from making nil and gaxey ***** about their karma is a lie, as anyone who actually read their posts in the threads you continually brag about but never actually linked to(I did that for you) could see clear as day. You decided to initiate a longwinded retort full of logical fallacies and repetitive statements after I made an offhand remark about you, rather than rolling with the punch and making an offhand remark about me. You continually do nothing but ignore your faults and grasp desperately your faulty reasoning.

When you learn how to have an intelligent debate, contact me, and we'll finish this, because as it stands, I feel like I'm arguing with a five year old.


You really shouldn't use big words you don't understand Jinte. And your desire to make an argument out of nothing doesn't mean there was an argument to start with.

You also really shouldn't lie on a message board about the very thread you are in.

On the first page of this thread you showed who and what you are by insulting me for defending that guy. In response I made that 'offhand remark' you just advised.

In response to that YOU 'decided to initiate a longwinded retort full of logical fallacies and repetitive statements'.

Anyone with a pair of eyes or even one eye can click on page one of this thread and see that Jinte.

Go back to page 1 and refresh your memory...

I just find it frightening how you people think if you just say something it must be true.

Or maybe you really have no clue what you write.

That makes more sense which is probably why nothing you write does.
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jtftaru wrote:
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Ok, so basically, you're just going to ignore the fact that you've been using the same flawed(and now proven false) arguments, the fact that I've called you out on it, and the fact that I've made it fairly clear that I know I'm a **** and don't expect people to think anything else, just to continue arguing with me to make yourself feel even better?

You're cool, dude.


There is no flawed argument because there is no argument. I'm curious where you get one from. I made a simple comment a while ago in defence of someone and in response you insulted me and have continued to do so ever since. Your original posts are there for all to see Jinte.

In response to seeing I had defended someone made fun of for poor spelling you launched into a giant attack on me, trying to make me out to be a bad guy for daring to point out that being nasty to someone just reflected badly on you and there was no need for it.

Ever since then you have flip flopped between admitting your an **** then getting hysterical and defensive when it's pointed out you're an ***** making yourself out to be an Internet tough guy, then making yourself out to be a victim as though you're the one being made fun of and so on and so on.

The simple point still remains that as you illustrated so eloquently in your opening posts in this thread, you're a sneering, hypocritical web cliché who wants to treat everyone else like **** but have everyone love you for it and not say anything bad in response.


But you're not arguing, right? Smiley: grin


Me? No. Just patiently pointing something out.

Darkdoom, you're the STFU guy right?

I don't mean to drive a wedge between you and Jinte but if you go back to earlier in this thread he says that you were one of the few people who didn't deserve to win PoM.

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I'm sorry if you didn't like the thread but I'm afraid you show the same mentality as them in what you say. We are on topic as this relates to my nomination so what's your problem? YOU don't like my posts so I should do what you want?
I'm interested in how I'm displaying this same purported "mentality." I don't think you should do what I want you to do. I just think that your continued response to them is exactly what they want from you, and that you're just performing an exercise in futility here.

I don't really know what your goal is in all of this. You seem to want to expose these posters in some way, when it's clear to anyone with half a brain what kind of posters they are. You're not revealing anything new in what you say.

Keep responding. So will they. Round and around we go.
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jtftaru wrote:
Professor Jinte wrote:
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The evil me is wondering when this became comedian of the month instead of player of the month.
Remember who the first PotM was?
Or second. Or third ...
you wanna play with him, gaxey? He's been trying to insult you, too, and I'm getting bored. Smiley: snore
I would, but the Spongebob Squarepants movie is on, and frankly, that's much more interesting.
heh, after reading that avesta thread, where he really had no justification in attacking you, I must say that I agree. Jtf, I'm bored with you. You've got no good points to argue, and there's no reason for me to continue wasting my time just to make you feel better about yourself, as this has lost its humor. For the record though, I called you a tard once, in this thread, having only a brief knowledge of your actions, not relating to your favorite threads (the end results, of which, you seem to have misunderstood). You seem proud of your attacking lolgaxe, and nilatai, who I consider to be good friends. I made a one word insult in their defense, and you go off on a tangent about how the world knows I'm a terrible person. So yea, I'm totally the one making personal attacks at people.

Pot, Kettle, Black, you get the drill.


A recurring theme throughout this thread has been you being a clone Jinte and if this is really your last post here then I guess it's fitting you should end with just one more clone comment - that of trying to claim hypocrisy when there is none.

No one has attacked you or lolgaxe or Nilatai. If you blindly attack others and act like the aforementioned web idiot type then people are entitled to point out what you are in response, especially when you happily admit to being what they say you are. If people point out you've done nasty things or have been a nasty person then those aren't insults or attacks are they? It's just an accurate description of you.

Once again your mentality is that no one should ever point out what you are or what you've done else they are attacking you and you're a victim which is just ludicrous.

Your blind support for lolgaxe is also ridiculous. You must realise how a message board works. You must know that the posts are in date order, time stamped from top to bottom?

If you read the whole Avesta thread from beginning to end you would have seen that lolgaxe came in and started with his crap that anyone who said anything nice about Avesta was a blind worshipper. You would also see Nilatai label everyone as retards before anyone said anything bad towards him.

The whole thread rated them down into oblivion so why focus on me?

Once again you show the mentality that you guys should be allowed to attack everyone and if anyone responds you are victims and they are bad people.

The thread is there for everyone to see for goodness sake yet you just pretend it's not as it is.

If you are really leaving the thread then good riddance. Shame it isn't the site.

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Darkdoom, you're the STFU guy right?

I don't mean to drive a wedge between you and Jinte but if you go back to earlier in this thread he says that you were one of the few people who didn't deserve to win PoM.
/whoosh

You're on a roll tonight.
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#139 May 25 2009 at 6:34 PM Rating: Good
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Ok, so basically, you're just going to ignore the fact that you've been using the same flawed(and now proven false) arguments, the fact that I've called you out on it, and the fact that I've made it fairly clear that I know I'm a **** and don't expect people to think anything else, just to continue arguing with me to make yourself feel even better?

You're cool, dude.


There is no flawed argument because there is no argument. I'm curious where you get one from. I made a simple comment a while ago in defence of someone and in response you insulted me and have continued to do so ever since. Your original posts are there for all to see Jinte.

In response to seeing I had defended someone made fun of for poor spelling you launched into a giant attack on me, trying to make me out to be a bad guy for daring to point out that being nasty to someone just reflected badly on you and there was no need for it.

Ever since then you have flip flopped between admitting your an **** then getting hysterical and defensive when it's pointed out you're an ***** making yourself out to be an Internet tough guy, then making yourself out to be a victim as though you're the one being made fun of and so on and so on.

The simple point still remains that as you illustrated so eloquently in your opening posts in this thread, you're a sneering, hypocritical web cliché who wants to treat everyone else like **** but have everyone love you for it and not say anything bad in response.


But you're not arguing, right? Smiley: grin


Me? No. Just patiently pointing something out.

Darkdoom, you're the STFU guy right?

I don't mean to drive a wedge between you and Jinte but if you go back to earlier in this thread he says that you were one of the few people who didn't deserve to win PoM.





And that's an opinion he's free to have. And his opinion on whether or not I deserved to win PoTM is irrelevant to the current issue, so I fail to see why that even matters.



It's also obviously a joke saying that I shouldn't have won because I need to stfu, now that I've seen the post I find it hard to see where you took it literally.

Edited, May 25th 2009 8:38pm by Darkdoom
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I'm sorry if you didn't like the thread but I'm afraid you show the same mentality as them in what you say. We are on topic as this relates to my nomination so what's your problem? YOU don't like my posts so I should do what you want?
I'm interested in how I'm displaying this same purported "mentality." I don't think you should do what I want you to do. I just think that your continued response to them is exactly what they want from you, and that you're just performing an exercise in futility here.

I don't really know what your goal is in all of this. You seem to want to expose these posters in some way, when it's clear to anyone with half a brain what kind of posters they are. You're not revealing anything new in what you say.

Keep responding. So will they. Round and around we go.
Um, all jtf really appears to want is added attention. Now he's taking shots at other posters. So... um... while I did mine for the lulz, I would think that if no one replied to him, he'd wander off to anotehr thread.

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Drexis...

I'm really beginning to like you. Smiley: grin

Edited, May 25th 2009 10:38pm by Pawkeshup
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I would think that if no one replied to him, he'd wander off to anotehr thread.
Shh... you're not supposed to reveal that.

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Edited, May 25th 2009 10:39pm by boywithoutaspoon
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i agree with you on the futility, but i also think jiftaru is a rampaging idiot who mistakes his own feelings for someone's "reputation". jiftaru reminds of mellowy and lobi in that literally everything they say seems to be stupid. it's as if they try to find the wrong side and then come down on it.

anyway, newsflash everyone: none of this matters. free premium for a month or more is cool. getting to read an interview with victrola would be really cool. your opinion about who the greatest alla poster ever is not very interesting. your opinion of jiftaru or nilitai is not interesting (my opinion of it isn't interesting either). vote for who you want, take it lightly, say nice things, everything goes well. i'm going against my advice, but (for better or worse) i wouldn't care about any of this even if it did matter.

edit: by the way, jiftaru/jinte argument summary:

<jiftaru> (deluded internet white knight nonsense)
<jinte> (trolling)
(repeat)

jiftaru is sad and annoying. everything is annoying. my head hurts.

Edited, May 25th 2009 10:23pm by milich


Well so far Jinte has had Nitalai, lolgaxe, Pawkeshup, Overburn, bsphil and now milich turn up to support him. With people like that to fight your corner, it's no wonder he has such a good reputation.

And milich, basic civility and common decency aren't the stuff of white knights. Your expectations of life are very low.

Everything anyone needs to know about milich can be found in this post. It might have been written 18 months ago but nothing has changed.
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milich wrote:
i agree with you on the futility, but i also think jiftaru is a rampaging idiot who mistakes his own feelings for someone's "reputation". jiftaru reminds of mellowy and lobi in that literally everything they say seems to be stupid. it's as if they try to find the wrong side and then come down on it.

anyway, newsflash everyone: none of this matters. free premium for a month or more is cool. getting to read an interview with victrola would be really cool. your opinion about who the greatest alla poster ever is not very interesting. your opinion of jiftaru or nilitai is not interesting (my opinion of it isn't interesting either). vote for who you want, take it lightly, say nice things, everything goes well. i'm going against my advice, but (for better or worse) i wouldn't care about any of this even if it did matter.

edit: by the way, jiftaru/jinte argument summary:

<jiftaru> (deluded internet white knight nonsense)
<jinte> (trolling)
(repeat)

jiftaru is sad and annoying. everything is annoying. my head hurts.

Edited, May 25th 2009 10:23pm by milich


Well so far Jinte has had Nitalai, lolgaxe, Pawkeshup, Overburn, bsphil and now milich turn up to support him. With people like that to fight your corner, it's no wonder he has such a good reputation.

And milich, basic civility and common decency aren't the stuff of white knights. Your expectations of life are very low.

Everything anyone needs to know about milich can be found in this post. It might have been written 18 months ago but nothing has changed.


Actually, everyone is coming to support him because he is an intelligent, funny, helpful member of the community.

Whereas you haven't contributed a damn thing to the forums.


brain no work...

Edited, May 25th 2009 8:51pm by Darkdoom
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I'm sorry if you didn't like the thread but I'm afraid you show the same mentality as them in what you say. We are on topic as this relates to my nomination so what's your problem? YOU don't like my posts so I should do what you want?
I'm interested in how I'm displaying this same purported "mentality." I don't think you should do what I want you to do. I just think that your continued response to them is exactly what they want from you, and that you're just performing an exercise in futility here.

I don't really know what your goal is in all of this. You seem to want to expose these posters in some way, when it's clear to anyone with half a brain what kind of posters they are. You're not revealing anything new in what you say.

Keep responding. So will they. Round and around we go.
Um, all jtf really appears to want is added attention. Now he's taking shots at other posters. So... um... while I did mine for the lulz, I would think that if no one replied to him, he'd wander off to anotehr thread.


i'm sure white knights often want attention, but it is a great mystery as to how their reception actually affects them. do they see red when no one comes around to see The Truth about how evil the thing they're complaining about (usually forum regulars, as in this textbook case) really is? are they sincere? or are they just attention getting trolls passing some time? does it usually vary, or is the white knight a more or less static character type? who's to say?

you're wrong, though. not angry "YOU'RE WRONG!" but an incidental "you're wrong". jiftaru either feels or is portraying the feeling of righteous anger against The Regulars. the regulars (being regulars) will continue to post, and jiftaru will post regardless of whether the regulars address or mention him/her. since in this case some of the regulars are internet trolls (or occasionally troll), they likely will respond to him/her, because they're trolling him/her, but s/he'd post regardless.

by the way, in my humble opinion, jiftaru is not doing any mystical internet pomo stuff, s/he's just another "YOU REGULARS ARE BAD!" who needs support and attention from strangers. the white knight is generally not a role someone knowingly adopts as a trolling strategy; people really get all indignant when they see "injustice" (eg "regulars are liked, which means circle jerk, which means INJUSTICE!" or "someone was mean to someone else and i don't understand why so I BETTER STICK UP FOR THEM THIS IS INJUSTICE!" etc). jiftaru really does care about all this, and is probably half-distraught, half-patting him/herself on the back for standing up to someone or something. no roleplaying involved, just a sad, deluded person trying to make a difference on the internet.

edit:

jiftaru, while you won't take me seriously because i've been insulting you (neither surprising nor really unjustified), i'll clear up a couple things: "white knight" is a technical term (as technical as the term "troll") meaning self-righteous posters who try to save the day when someone is mean on a forum, or other related times. i did not make up the term. further, i'm not posting on jinte's behalf, nor do i support his arguments (in fact, i haven't read much of any of the posts in this thread). he is trolling you. he does not care about anything he's saying, and if you think he is does, you are wrong.

as for the post summing me up, ctrl+f "pahn" for my responses. the one about not caring is more heartfelt than the one about My Lofty Sense Of Service (which i'm sure you wouldn't appreciate because you're new and stupid).

Edited, May 25th 2009 10:51pm by milich
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Darkdoom, you're the STFU guy right?

I don't mean to drive a wedge between you and Jinte but if you go back to earlier in this thread he says that you were one of the few people who didn't deserve to win PoM.
/whoosh

You're on a roll tonight.


Do you remember bsphil, the last time I said Americans didn't get sarcasm or irony you posted in response a picture of a British guy in a funny hat?

If you wanted to post that again now I wouldn't mind.
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milich wrote:
Stilivan wrote:
jtftaru wrote:
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"Why are we all fighting with eachtother! This should stop!"

"You stop first."

"No, you stop first!"

"No... you stop first"

"You stop first before I stop first."


= this thread and the lulz that's going on.


That's not what this thread is about.

This thread is about Jinte and Nilatai illustrating why they and their type have their reputation. How they preach their Internet tough guy talk but think it applies to everyone but them.

2 months ago and again last week I made a comment about treating fellow posters a little better. In response to that tiny contribution, you have these pages of hate and anger from Jinte and Nilatai.

The angrier they get, especially Jinte with all his clichéd Internet tough guy talk of treating people like puppies, being 'merciful' and posting crap on purpose to make people think they were doing that all along highlights who and what they are far better than I ever could.


I lurked both threads mentioned. Not interested/cared.

Why are you posting if you don't want them to stop being internet jerks? I can understand you feel you need to do what you're doing, but take it to PMs.

Same reason as the other two, they're trying to get you to stop while at the same time claiming they're having a great time out of all this.

So basically, you're both trying to stop each other from doing what you're doing and going in circles. Yay.

Frankly, not enough people care about what either of you are talking about. Well, I can't speak for everyone, so to correct myself, I don't care. I do find your arguments correct, but I also agree that what you're doing is beyond pointless. They're not going to throw in the towel or agree with anything you're saying. Therefore, this will continue until one of you all quit or an admin takes measures.

Take it to PMs.



Edited, May 25th 2009 8:11pm by Stilivan


i agree with you on the futility, but i also think jiftaru is a rampaging idiot who mistakes his own feelings for someone's "reputation". jiftaru reminds of mellowy and lobi in that literally everything they say seems to be stupid. it's as if they try to find the wrong side and then come down on it.

anyway, newsflash everyone: none of this matters. free premium for a month or more is cool. getting to read an interview with victrola would be really cool. your opinion about who the greatest alla poster ever is not very interesting. your opinion of jiftaru or nilitai is not interesting (my opinion of it isn't interesting either). vote for who you want, take it lightly, say nice things, everything goes well. i'm going against my advice, but (for better or worse) i wouldn't care about any of this even if it did matter.

edit: by the way, jiftaru/jinte argument summary:

<jiftaru> (deluded internet white knight nonsense)
<jinte> (trolling)
(repeat)

jiftaru is sad and annoying. everything is annoying. my head hurts.

The obvious answer is to never read any post over one paragraph long, that way you get 95% of the lulz and a minimal amount of QQ. It's done wonders for my sanity.
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jtftaru, I never defended Jinte, his actions or his behavior in this thread.

In fact, I only pointed out you're a raving loon. Repeatedly.

Doubt me?

Here's my entire quoted history here
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Damn, no one nominated me ; ;

I think Nilatai will be mad this Nilitai character was nominated.

Now now, just because someone named Nilitai was nominated instead of you is no reason to say that. Maybe next month Nil.

Nilatai thinks he was nominated, when it was really Nilitai that was. The poor boy's mind snapped. He's been trying so hard to be PotM, this is almost mocking to him.

We will need to find a way to break this to him gently. Something like this could cause him to finally lose it, get a trench coat and start sniping people...

Don't pick on jtftaru. He's dislexic, he probably has to have someone read this all to him, then recheck his post like 8 times! You're a big meanie Jinte, and so are you Nilatai!

How dare you both write nasty words! It's horrible! We all know words can kill people you thoughtless bastards. It's a tragedy!


And if you had nominated me, I would probably be drawing all the flack!

Jinte, don't stop the man when he's on a roll!

So you're Mercy Stroking him?

This. What were YOU thinking?

I've always found that Poster of the Month (as I see it) is more about contributing something to the forums. Now, that doesn't mean always contributing something truly valuable. Instead, it could be doing something as simple as the fact that everyone reading this has just lost the game.

Or it could be the epic trolling of people like Vic.

Or the endless positive contributions from posters like Tummie.

In the end, it's part popularity, part usefulness, and 100% entertainment value.

In an effort to be a helpful person, I've decided to honor jtftaru's request.

jtf...



(SLAP IMG)


PWNED!!! OMG DUDE U SUCK SO HARD UR HEAD IMPLODES WHEN U DRINK SODA!!!

That's right! I'm an internet tiger BALLS! SOUL!! RAWR!!


(LOLCAT INTERNETZHATEMASHEEN IMG)

(NO HOPE THREAD IMG)

(CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS IMG)


Now I gotta go, my momz be ******** that I be late 4 suppa!

PEACE!!!

I do, it was OK.

(screenshot of error)

See, here's his interview!

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It's OK, I already gave jtftaru all he wanted, and he just wants more abuse. I swear, we need to get him to post in the OoT.

For the lulz of course.

It's OK, I already gave jtftaru all he wanted, and he just wants more abuse. I swear, we need to get him to post in the OoT.

For the lulz of course.

[image of a pot calling a kettle black]

I don't even know if that's what he's trying to do, because I've just been watching this trainwreck thinking jtf went off his meds or something.

There's honor in winning internet arguments?

For the tl;dr of this thread, I offer the following:

[Winning arguments on the internet is retarded img]

Um, all jtf really appears to want is added attention. Now he's taking shots at other posters. So... um... while I did mine for the lulz, I would think that if no one replied to him, he'd wander off to anotehr thread.

Edit:

Drexis...

I'm really beginning to like you.
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Actually, everyone is coming to support him because he is an intelligent, funny, helpful member of the community.

Whereas you haven't contributed a damn thing to the forums.


brain no work...

Edited, May 25th 2009 8:51pm by Darkdoom


Nice edit Darkdoom. I won't bother replying to what you originally said.

Actually I contribute a fair bit to the forums. Most of my posts are to help people or give them information. The fact you're ignorant of that doesn't make it untrue. Also, I don't go round attacking people for spelling things wrong or try to score petty points over grammar or hijack threads or any of that crap that ruins forums and that alone makes me a far better person than your esteemed friend.



milich wrote:

i'm sure white knights often want attention, but it is a great mystery as to how their reception actually affects them. do they see red when no one comes around to see The Truth about how evil the thing they're complaining about (usually forum regulars, as in this textbook case) really is? are they sincere? or are they just attention getting trolls passing some time? does it usually vary, or is the white knight a more or less static character type? who's to say?

you're wrong, though. not angry "YOU'RE WRONG!" but an incidental "you're wrong". jiftaru either feels or is portraying the feeling of righteous anger against The Regulars. the regulars (being regulars) will continue to post, and jiftaru will post regardless of whether the regulars address or mention him/her. since in this case some of the regulars are internet trolls (or occasionally troll), they likely will respond to him/her, because they're trolling him/her, but s/he'd post regardless.

by the way, in my humble opinion, jiftaru is not doing any mystical internet pomo stuff, s/he's just another "YOU REGULARS ARE BAD!" who needs support and attention from strangers. the white knight is generally not a role someone knowingly adopts as a trolling strategy; people really get all indignant when they see "injustice" (eg "regulars are liked, which means circle jerk, which means INJUSTICE!" or "someone was mean to someone else and i don't understand why so I BETTER STICK UP FOR THEM THIS IS INJUSTICE!" etc). jiftaru really does care about all this, and is probably half-distraught, half-patting him/herself on the back for standing up to someone or something. no roleplaying involved, just a sad, deluded person trying to make a difference on the internet.

edit:

jiftaru, while you won't take me seriously because i've been insulting you (neither surprising nor really unjustified), i'll clear up a couple things: "white knight" is a technical term (as technical as the term "troll") meaning self-righteous posters who try to save the day when someone is mean on a forum, or other related times. i did not make up the term. further, i'm not posting on jinte's behalf, nor do i support his arguments (in fact, i haven't read much of any of the posts in this thread). he is trolling you. he does not care about anything he's saying, and if you think he is does, you are wrong.

as for the post summing me up, ctrl+f "pahn" for my responses. the one about not caring is more heartfelt than the one about My Lofty Sense Of Service (which i'm sure you wouldn't appreciate because you're new and stupid).

Edited, May 25th 2009 10:51pm by milich



Milich, firstly you lot do not represent the 'Regulars'. You represent the 'Circle Jerk Morons'.

As for me being new, I have been on this site longer than you. The fact I don't pollute every thread with +1 nonsense and most of my posts are on topic and helpful doesn't mean I don't come here a lot.

Plenty of other 'Regulars' have been here longer than you and all they do is post pleasantly, don't attack anyone and don't think simple basic manners equates to some impossibly high standard that only popes have access to.

How you and your little MNK/WAR clique behave does not represent how everyone behaves here.

As for Jinte trolling, as I said earlier in the thread, he did what they all do. Started off seriously, then ended up being a prick on purpose to make out he was having great fun and it made him all powerful and dominant ect.

What you don't get is, if he's a prick for real or he's being one on purpose, there's no real distinction. For you people, you call it 'trolling' and act like it's a great thing. For normal people acting like that on purpose makes him look as big an idiot as doing it for real.

Edited, May 25th 2009 11:23pm by jtftaru
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Actually, everyone is coming to support him because he is an intelligent, funny, helpful member of the community.

Whereas you haven't contributed a damn thing to the forums.


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The One and Only Darkdoom wrote:

Actually, everyone is coming to support him because he is an intelligent, funny, helpful member of the community.

Whereas you haven't contributed a damn thing to the forums.


brain no work...

Edited, May 25th 2009 8:51pm by Darkdoom


Nice edit Darkdoom. I won't bother replying to what you originally said.

Actually I contribute a fair bit to the forums. Most of my posts are to help people or give them information. The fact you're ignorant of that doesn't make it untrue. Also, I don't go round attacking people for spelling things wrong or try to score petty points over grammar or hijack threads or any of that crap that ruins forums and that alone makes me a far better person than your esteemed friend.



milich wrote:

i'm sure white knights often want attention, but it is a great mystery as to how their reception actually affects them. do they see red when no one comes around to see The Truth about how evil the thing they're complaining about (usually forum regulars, as in this textbook case) really is? are they sincere? or are they just attention getting trolls passing some time? does it usually vary, or is the white knight a more or less static character type? who's to say?

you're wrong, though. not angry "YOU'RE WRONG!" but an incidental "you're wrong". jiftaru either feels or is portraying the feeling of righteous anger against The Regulars. the regulars (being regulars) will continue to post, and jiftaru will post regardless of whether the regulars address or mention him/her. since in this case some of the regulars are internet trolls (or occasionally troll), they likely will respond to him/her, because they're trolling him/her, but s/he'd post regardless.

by the way, in my humble opinion, jiftaru is not doing any mystical internet pomo stuff, s/he's just another "YOU REGULARS ARE BAD!" who needs support and attention from strangers. the white knight is generally not a role someone knowingly adopts as a trolling strategy; people really get all indignant when they see "injustice" (eg "regulars are liked, which means circle jerk, which means INJUSTICE!" or "someone was mean to someone else and i don't understand why so I BETTER STICK UP FOR THEM THIS IS INJUSTICE!" etc). jiftaru really does care about all this, and is probably half-distraught, half-patting him/herself on the back for standing up to someone or something. no roleplaying involved, just a sad, deluded person trying to make a difference on the internet.

edit:

jiftaru, while you won't take me seriously because i've been insulting you (neither surprising nor really unjustified), i'll clear up a couple things: "white knight" is a technical term (as technical as the term "troll") meaning self-righteous posters who try to save the day when someone is mean on a forum, or other related times. i did not make up the term. further, i'm not posting on jinte's behalf, nor do i support his arguments (in fact, i haven't read much of any of the posts in this thread). he is trolling you. he does not care about anything he's saying, and if you think he is does, you are wrong.

as for the post summing me up, ctrl+f "pahn" for my responses. the one about not caring is more heartfelt than the one about My Lofty Sense Of Service (which i'm sure you wouldn't appreciate because you're new and stupid).

Edited, May 25th 2009 10:51pm by milich



Milich, firstly you lot do not represent the 'Regulars'. You represent the 'Circle Jerk Morons'.

As for me being new, I have been on this site longer than you. The fact I don't pollute every thread with +1 nonsense and most of my posts are on topic and helpful doesn't mean I don't come here a lot.

Plenty of other 'Regulars' have been here longer than you and all they do is post pleasantly, don't attack anyone and don't think simple basic manners equates to some impossibly high standard that only popes have access to.

How you and your little MNK/WAR clique behave does not represent how everyone behaves here.

As for Jinte trolling, as I said earlier in the thread, he did what they all do. Started off seriously, then ended up being a prick on purpose to make out he was having great fun and it made him all powerful and dominant ect.

What you don't get is, if he's a prick for real or he's being one on purpose, there's no real distinction. For you people, you call it 'trolling' and act like it's a great thing. For normal people acting like that on purpose makes him look as big an idiot as doing it for real.

Edited, May 25th 2009 11:23pm by jtftaru


the idea that you've helped anywhere near the amount of people i have in this game or on this site is laughable(:, but you can't troll me. you're right that i don't represent the regulars though. i don't represent anyone. for all i care you guys can troll each other in every thread, but i thought it might be helpful to give my perspective. obviously it wasn't(:.

edit in case my severe headache is diminishing my clarity: the perspective i'm giving is that boywithoutaspoon was correct in the couple posts he made regarding you not proving anything to anyone, and the fact that you're being trolled. even if jinte tells you to shut up (and even if he writes mad paragraphs to say it), he doesn't actually care. further, i'm offering the (good) advice that people take the PotM thing lightly and stay positive, b/c it doesn't matter at all.

final edit: inb4lock, and in case anyone's curious, i never +1. it's not like my posts are crushingly important, but i barely understand what it means to +1, much less have any desire to actually do it. as for circle jerks, i'm totally down with those.

Edited, May 25th 2009 11:42pm by milich
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