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#527 Aug 10 2004 at 10:31 PM Rating: Good
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Keep playing with the Karma, I'll play with it too


Why? Why come into a topic just to be so disrespectful and disruptive? If you have a problem, leave. It's that simple. But why turn this into a karma war? Nobody here's been using foul language, nobody's been calling people names, everyone has just been expressing their opinion and then listening and responding to the opinions of others. It WAS an awesome topic and the first I've ever seen of this nature on a message board that didn't instantly degenerate into flames, until you got here and attempted to derail it. Why not just leave? What harm is this topic doing to you? Let us resume our conversation and you can go read other topics that don't bother you so much, and then everyone's happy.
#528 Aug 10 2004 at 10:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Leifein said:
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I know for a fact that if a married gay couple moved into my neighborhood people would start moving out. They wouldnt want their kids to be playing in the street and see George kiss Micheal before he went to work. This is reality.


You are absolutely right. It would be horrible for my child to see George kiss Micheal before he went to work. I mean, that's how it is. Every morning before my husband goes to work, we walk out into the middle of the yard at 5 AM, call everyone's attention, and make out for five minutes. Then every night when he comes home, we have wild sex on the front lawn. The neighbors love it, and they do the same. Because all couples do that, right?

As for the dark character models, I have seen some pretty dark Elvaans, but it may have just been bad lighting.

I have a friend in his fourties who is gay, but didn't become gay until about 10 years ago. He has two grown children. I don't know if he had a change of heart or if he was really gay the whole time. I don't know if homosexuality is something your born with or not. Let's face it, nobody knows. All I know is people are people, and I don't care who they love.

Edited, Tue Aug 10 23:37:55 2004 by GoddessBelldandy
#529 Aug 10 2004 at 10:37 PM Rating: Good
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Every morning before my husband goes to work, we walk out into the middle of the yard at 5 AM, call everyone's attention, and make out for five minutes. Then every night when he comes home, we have wild sex on the front lawn. The neighbors love it, and they do the same. Because all couples do that, right?


That mental image was the funniest I've had all day. Thank you. XD
#530 Aug 10 2004 at 10:41 PM Rating: Decent
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DaluinRizzo wrote:
"I however, am about to rate you down. You're the one who made this OT."

******** buddy, go read the last two pages! Nothing but religion, politics and flames! And I didn't respond on those pages at all now did I? Learn to read...


That's pretty cool.

Guess what, coversation topics CHANGE. While we're still discussing something related to the OP, it's not 100% off the OP!

Also, I'm not messing with the karma system. If I was, why am I not the only one rating you down?
#531 Aug 10 2004 at 10:42 PM Rating: Default
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"Why come into a topic just to be so disrespectful"

Yes, why are you???

"and disruptive?"

Same question I have for you.

"Nobody's been calling people names"

Really, just one page back you are telling people they "lack reading comprehension".

"I've ever seen of this nature on a message board that didn't instantly degenerate into flames"

Then you are a greenback! The biggest troll topic on any forum is related to religion or politics.
#532 Aug 10 2004 at 10:43 PM Rating: Default
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CBD wrote:
Also, I'm not messing with the karma system. If I was, why am I not the only one rating you down?


You have sock puppets.
#533 Aug 10 2004 at 10:48 PM Rating: Good
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I had ONE sockpuppet, Tilolo, that was used to test if journal ratings affected karma. That account will have a 3.00 rating if I ever post with it again. It was never used to rate me up anywhere but a journal.

However, I'm beginning to think that you, in your anger, decided to rate most of the thread down? If you look here, it seems that someone started to randomly rate people down, and only recently, as I only checked since my karma dropped .02.

If someone could be so kind as to help me rate up the people that are unfairly being rated down, I'd appreciate it.

EDIT: just checked, it appears to be only me and deathreigns, I've already rated most of deathreign's posts up.

Edited, Tue Aug 10 23:51:24 2004 by CBD
#534 Aug 10 2004 at 10:50 PM Rating: Default
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You were unfairly rated down? ROFL!!!!!!!

What about me?

PS: Looks like I need to make some sock puppets

And by the way brighteyes, what makes YOU think I am rating everyone down? Do you not think this topic will bring out the karma campers? Are you that stupid?

Edited, Tue Aug 10 23:51:58 2004 by DaluinRizzo
#535 Aug 10 2004 at 10:51 PM Rating: Good
This thread is rated "excellent - 4.50". Clearly, most people would disagree with you on its merit. And CBD isn't the only one rating you down, I am too now. And I will continue to until you stop trolling the topic and leave or join in with something worthwhile to say. If need be, I WILL bring a moderator into it since you're intentionally disrupting the discussion and being an *** about it. You ALWAYS have the freedom to leave the thread, so if you don't like it then rate it down and leave. But your continued presence here is unwelcome if all you're going to do is be a nuisance. This conversation is in no way hurting you, and you're not required to participate, so don't.

To everyone else, I suggest you ignore him until he either goes away or has something relevant to say, and continue rating him down as that IS the intent of the karma system. If it gets bad enough, I'll ask a moderator to intervene, but I hesitate to bother them until it gets particularly bad as I'm sure they're all busy people.

Anyway, thank you for "coming out" to us, CBD. It's not easy, I know.

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I have a friend in his fourties who is gay, but didn't become gay until about 10 years ago. He has two grown children. I don't know if he had a change of heart or if he was really gay the whole time. I don't know if homosexuality is something your born with or not. Let's face it, nobody knows. All I know is people are people, and I don't care who they love.


If you don't think it would make him uncomfortable, you might ask him. It would be interesting to know one way or another since it's very relevant to the discussion, but certainly don't do anything to make him feel uncomfortable or on-the-spot.
#536 Aug 10 2004 at 10:53 PM Rating: Decent
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DaluinRizzo wrote:
You were unfairly rated down? ROFL!!!!!!!

What about me?

PS: Looks like I need to make some sock puppets

And by the way brighteyes, what makes YOU think I am rating everyone down? Do you not think this topic will bring out the karma campers? Are you that stupid?

Edited, Tue Aug 10 23:51:58 2004 by DaluinRizzo


I'll post this in the Feedback forum. Kaolin just loves sockpuppets use for rating.

I'm not the only person rating you down, as was mentioned before. However, I'm getting ONE awful from ONE person.

Karma campers, huh? They mainly singled out two people, and no one on the first page.

You make lame excuses.
#537 Aug 10 2004 at 10:54 PM Rating: Default
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What part of "you are starting flamewars with this thread" do you not understand?

Would you like me to cut and paste every time you insulted someone in this post?

Change my karam all you like boy, I will just be right back at you IF that is how you want to play!

All I did was say this topic is NO LONGER RELATED TO FFXI, I didn't flame anyone, YOU DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#538 Aug 10 2004 at 10:55 PM Rating: Decent
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If someone could be so kind as to help me rate up the people that are unfairly being rated down, I'd appreciate it.

EDIT: just checked, it appears to be only me and deathreigns, I've already rated most of deathreign's posts up.


Don't worry CBD, I'll go back through and put you and deathreigns back up, and I respectfully ask that everyone else try to "patrol" the karma in this topic. There's no reason ANYONE should be rated down simply for expressing their opinion. As long as you have an intelligent argument to make, you can expect a rate-up from me, REGARDLESS which side of the issue you're on. Tonight I'll go through and rate everyone but for now I'll just have a cursory run-through to correct any unfair "imbalances".

Daluin, if you don't want rate-downs then either post something worthwhile or leave the topic. But intentionally trying to be disruptive WILL get you marked down.
#539 Aug 10 2004 at 10:55 PM Rating: Default
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You're damn straight I am rating you two morons down now, after all YOU BOTH admited to doing it to me.

Grow the hell up already!
#540 Aug 10 2004 at 10:57 PM Rating: Decent
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You think we're flaming?

You would NOT survive in The Asylum.

You came in here, rudely said that we were getting OT, and now that people are rating you accordingly for being a complete jerk, you're switching into whine mode.

Please leave if you're not going to contribute to the discussion we were having.
#541 Aug 10 2004 at 10:58 PM Rating: Good
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/sigh

And this thread was going so well, too ; ;
#542 Aug 10 2004 at 10:59 PM Rating: Default
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Saboruto wrote:

Daluin, if you don't want rate-downs then either post something worthwhile or leave the topic. But intentionally trying to be disruptive WILL get you marked down.


Don't threaten me!

I did post something constructive, I posted that IMO, this post is WAY OFF TOPIC NOW! The last few pages contain numerous insults, religious and sex preference comments that have NOTHIGN WHATSOEVER to do with Square's stance on gay marriages.

All I am saying is it no longer belongs in this forum. Personally I do not care about the topic itself, I'm not a gay basher! This just isn't the place to sit on your soap box discussing religion and politics, there is a forum for that.
#543 Aug 10 2004 at 11:00 PM Rating: Default
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CBD wrote:
said that we were getting OT


Because you ARE off topic
#544 Aug 10 2004 at 11:01 PM Rating: Good
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I did post something constructive, I posted that IMO, this post is WAY OFF TOPIC NOW! The last few pages contain numerous insults, religious and sex preference comments that have NOTHIGN WHATSOEVER to do with Square's stance on gay marriages.


Conversation topics CHANGE. The core to the topic was STILL there. You had no right to come in an accuse of of going OT.

I'm not going to reply to your posts anymore, they're only making this topic go OT.

Edited, Wed Aug 11 00:01:49 2004 by CBD
#545 Aug 10 2004 at 11:03 PM Rating: Default
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CBD wrote:
You had no right to come in an accuse of of going OT.


I have a right to say whatever I please so long as it doesn't violate any rules here. Get off your high horse...
#546 Aug 10 2004 at 11:06 PM Rating: Default
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How many sock puppets did you login CBD?

#547 Aug 10 2004 at 11:11 PM Rating: Decent
He's not worth it. Just rate him down until his posts drop below the filter and ignore him, he'll get the idea and leave.

To anyone who feels negatively toward gay marriage, both in the game and out: If S-E had added the concept of marriage but had never placed any sort of restrictions on its use...meaning, if they had put marriage in the game but made it so that any character could marry any other character regardless of race/gender, etc...how do you think you would have reacted? Would you have been upset? Or would you have just figured it was S-E being lazy? Do you think there would've been a big backlash or do you think it would have gone under the radar?
#548 Aug 10 2004 at 11:13 PM Rating: Default
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Saboruto wrote:
He's not worth it. Just rate him down until his posts drop below the filter and ignore him, he'll get the idea and leave.


And thats exactly what will happen to you.

What a troll you are...
#549 Aug 10 2004 at 11:14 PM Rating: Good
(And as a stupid aside: WHAT is a sockpuppet? I see that name thrown around all the time on this board but nobody's ever explained it...is it an allakhazamism, like that 'basqt' thing that was going around?)
#550 Aug 10 2004 at 11:16 PM Rating: Default
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Saboruto wrote:
(And as a stupid aside: WHAT is a sockpuppet? I see that name thrown around all the time on this board but nobody's ever explained it...is it an allakhazamism, like that 'basqt' thing that was going around?)


Ask CBD, he has plenty of them. Its when someone creates many accounts and uses them to respond to themselves and/or karma camp people.
#551 Aug 10 2004 at 11:16 PM Rating: Good
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An account someone makes, then rates the posts up on, in order to karma troll without making it obvious it was them.

That, or another account for someone to post their opinion on without worrying about their main karma.
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