Masamune Vs. Amanomurakumo Follow

Unstacked Evisceration on a pimped out THF with RR and VV or Stout Arm pretty much matches Fudo unless the SAM is saving up 300 TP for epeen screencaps. And Drakesbane completely destroys it. Anyone without a multi-hit crit WS is pretty much gimp in Abyssea.





It's still (slightly) better than DRK.

Edited, Dec 16th 2010 3:45am by Lobivopis

With the fully upgraded Keito+2 (TPBonus+100), atma VV/AO your still pulling out 1.5K - 2.5K WS's using just Gekko. Add a 5HIT to that and your still putting out good dmg. Certainly better than any other DD that hasn't got RR yet and DRK.

I find my SAM in my Abys NM group has her uses, She can spam Koki and I don't have to worry about organising other jobs to go for RED. Shes also there for slashing Blue too. I have no probs with the way a SAM is w/o emph if they have Keito+2 and relavtive atma.


Emp weapons are miles ahead of their counter-parts and any other weapons fora DD job in the game. Massive massive dmg increases from having one.

Now see this is why your logic fails. You relate EVERYTHING to Abyssea. It's not the end all be all that you think it is. What are you going to do when you finish in that place? Do you honestly believe we'll spend the rest of our days in that zone with SE exclusively updating it because we want it? Don't count on it. As a matter of fact, count on SE moving on and probably releasing new content that will turn your current views upside down(again)

The only safe bet with Abyssea for the future is exp groups. I enjoy Abyssea but I'll be damned if I throw all of my eggs into the Abyssea basket. It's only a mere 3 ADD ONS, after all. But you go ahead Rog, mold your character for Abyssea. See what happens when the work is worthless trash down the road because we're back to being normal and boring characters without super buffs. I will LOL so hard.


And I am totally ready and willing to eat my words if the next treat we get is a copy cat of Abyssea. But I'm pretty sure it won't happen because I know the makers of this game. We got our fun time with Abyssea. Now it's time to get back to reality where they release the sequel content to the old stuff and we get to go back to lol damage. Then we'll get to hear Rog whine about what's trash and what's not come then. Can't wait.

It's a bit of a shame a human forged blade (as spectacular as it is despite that) is superior to one granted by the gods. The problem isnt that the Amano isnt good, it's just that with both the Aftermath and Fudo doing insane damage, Masamune can easily get double the damage output. A samurai can easily keep a good Aftermath effect up nearly endlessly due to their TP gain.

Any other job wouldnt have this much diffirence between their two weapons. Still, it's a pointless arguement. If you have either one of these weapons, you're a lucky man/woman/taru.

Relics in general and Amano in particular was never that good anyway, comparing it to Masamune is laughable. Hagun was a pretty close call at 75 let alone that..

Regarding putting all of your eggs in the Abyssea basket:

I still consider SAM to be my "main" job, and ultimately it is what I put the most effort into when I am choosing what to do in Abyssea. I just like SAM's play style and feel. That said, I play my MNK probably 90% of the time in Abyssea because its like putting so much of that content on easy mode. It isn't elitism to pick the right tool for the job. As MNK, I can go out and get tons of stuff duoing with my wife's WHM or RDM. I can tank pretty much anything my LS needs me to and deal pretty nice damage. It isn't hard at all to gear multiple jobs in Abyssea now since most jobs can be leveled from 75 up and merited in not that many hours, seal NMs can be wrecked in 3-5 mins, jewel/card/etc NM's aren't that difficult to kill and you really only need 2-3 of them if you proc grellow to +2 a piece. NM's that drop gear pop pretty fast and if you bother to blue !! them they have high drop rates, moving around zones is really easy with confluxes, etc etc.

So I guess what I am saying is, in Abyssea I can have my cake and eat it too. Never before has it been so easy to level and gear multiple jobs.

DMG/Tanking in abyssea = Masa by leaps and bounds

DMG/Tanking ouside abyssea = Masa by a good bit

Time/Reward ratio = Masa by infinity

Sam is middle of the pack DD without a crit WS, but its certainly not garbage.

You know what's funny? He actually went and asked in the SAM forums and they told him that Amano loses by a wide margin too. So are you calling everyone the SAM forums elitists now? Because it sure looks that way.




Edited, Dec 16th 2010 7:37pm by blowfin

We'll talk when sam passes whm.

Pretty sure a RDM can out DD a sam, just saying.

Naw dood, don't need lolnir. Sam is just that bad. Of course 8 hit crit ws are kind of awesome, but still, lolsam.

Edited, Dec 16th 2010 3:13pm by ThePsychoticOne

There's an Octa Strike now?!