MclarenTAGPorsche wrote:
1: Are you trying to fool yourself? Everyone who said they got banned for gardening had almost an entire if not multiple accounts for gardening and npcing wildgrass. They said it.
2: SE cant investigate each case no matter if thats good or bad. They dont have the amount of ppl needed or time, or care for this. I'm not from SE.
4: You don't seem to know the logic behind avatar runs for money. Good, you won't get banned for that.
5: Dupes, exploits, speed hacks, teleport hacks, who cares if they are botting a HNM or adding 400k each 2 weeks in economy without any human interaction by pressing the check plants button each 2 days whatever, each one of you adds 400k to economy and helps inflation on everything. Your lack of imagination to make gil besides using real monel on more slots for mules hurts so many more ppl.
But you don't care also. It's your CC. either if you are buying gil or slots to make gil with real money, its up to you, isnt it?
Funny though that the one that removed my answer to this JOKE of situation (exploiters complaining they got banned) pretends to be like Tom Cruise and actually looks like a deformed version of Goose.
I'm going to take a guess here that you're replying to me, though in the future you may want to add a quote so that's less confusing, especially if there are multiple days between posts.
1: I assure you I'm not trying to fool myself; what would that gain me? It doesn't even sound like fun. "Everyone" is a fallacious statement, you can't possibly know what "everyone" who was banned for gardening was doing on their account(s), claiming otherwise would be claiming omniscience and I don't think you're quite there yet. Furthermore, let's say hypothetically I have 4 mules that I use for gardening/muling/AHing in cities, that means that 80% of my account is being used for gardening (1 main char), well that's most.. so I guess you've got me there. As for additional accounts, let's say my family or girlfriend also plays and I'm paying for their accounts, and for kicks I add a mule to each one to help with my gardening needs (hey it's still only an extra $1 a month and I don't have to log to check them).. so that's multiple accounts? Hmm.. Ok.
2: SE certainly doesn't have the care to do investigations, I can't argue with you there. However, when the STF was introduced, they did state that they were investigating on a case-by-case basis to help ensure that the team's actions were correct. So either they were lying, or their policy has changed.. Personally I'd put my money on the latter.
3 is for squares apparently
4: I do understand the logic behind regular avatar runs. However, your point of contention here seemed to be that legitimate players were using 6 accounts to do avatar runs and I'm saying that this is extremely unlikely. Most people who own more than one account have 2, 2 is all you need to kill an avatar that isn't Fenrir easily, and paying for 6 accounts just to add a little more gil for this isn't something a legit player is likely to do. Also don't worry about things I'll get banned for, as my signature clearly (in block caps) states, I'm retired and therefore I won't be banned for anything. Cool huh.
5: I'm with you, cheaters deserve to lose their work, but we're not talking about cheaters here, we're talking about real people like you and me who woke up one morning (or got d/c'd and logged back in) and found they were banned, who then discovered some cryptic reason for it from SE with no further explanation and no hope of recovery. Do I think that 100% of the people who were banned by the STF were legit? No, odds are good that they got some real RMT with their normal bannings, they have every month since their inception. Do I think there were a whole bunch of people banned by the STF that WERE legit? Yes.. yes I do.
I'm afraid I don't understand the Top Gun reference here. First off, nobody deleted your post, it's still up there at sub-default so the normal alla filters pass it up, that's how I figured out you were talking to me. Second.. Tom Cruise? Really? So the person who deleted (didn't happen) your post tried to look like a crazy scientologist but ended up looking like someone who ended the movie by crushing his head against a fighter canopy.. Classy.
EDIT: Btw, this is a civilized discussion, we're civilized people, let's refrain from personal attacks or assumptions about the other people in the discussion. If you feel that I buy gil (retired rememeber) let me assure you that you're mistaken, and I'd also ask that you not jump to conclusions about people you don't know.
Edited, Aug 7th 2009 9:03pm by Callinon