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#327 Jul 25 2005 at 1:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Hmm maybe the number of mobs depends on the con to them, for me the mobs are always 50+ so lower mobs = more kills maybe.

45 mins is correct though I didn't kill any mobs to see how long she would stay with me.
#328 Jul 25 2005 at 1:25 PM Rating: Decent
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So question is; Did he switch back because I took him out as a low level job or because I tossed my pearl? Does "losing" your pearl start them over so to speak in terms of gear collecting?


>.> I have summoned my NPC twice a day, and I never had a equipment reset. But the equipment switch seems random, it jumps from high level to low level. But pretty sure switching jobs resets it to some extend.

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EDIT: My other question was: Does what weapon you give Luto perhaps decide your npc's job? I don't think all those weapons are all jobs, are they?


I don't think the NPC have a job per say. I think the Weapon is just what kinda damage you want your NPC to do. I don't think switching the NPC to GK will give him/her Meditate for example.
#329 Jul 25 2005 at 1:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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^^update^^ finished day 12 and talked to Luto. She tells me "Cupapa was telling me she wanted to upgrade her weapon." Gonna try out some weapons and update on what I find.
#330 Jul 25 2005 at 2:03 PM Rating: Good
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Does anyone recognize what legs these are? They look like lizard but something seems different about them, if I'm wrong then slap me. I know the rest is Mythril, Chain, and Gaiters.

http://www.uploadhouse.com/images/206565541epilleve3.jpg
#331 Jul 25 2005 at 2:13 PM Rating: Decent
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that is lizard legs. Just the knee part is always covered by the lizard shoos.

Those are lizard legs though. :)
#332 Jul 25 2005 at 2:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ok, got to trading some weapons to Luto. Here are the ones I've been able to get her to take.

Katana - Wakizashi
Polearm - Bronze Spear
Axe - Brass Axe
Scythe - Brass Zaghnal
Great Axe - Greataxe
Great Sword - Two-Handed Sword
H2H - Brass Knuckles

I haven't figure out the following:
Great Katana - Tried Nodachi, Kanesada, and Okanehira
Sword - Tried Brass Xiphos, and Spatha
Staff - Tried Holly Staff
Club - Tried Bronze Rod, and Brass Rod
Dagger - Tried Brass Dagger

That's all for now, I'm sure someone will come up with the ones i'm missing soon^^
#333 Jul 25 2005 at 2:37 PM Rating: Decent
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your npc will not level by fighting in alepa just 1 time... if it did my npc would be around 40 by now it wook about 3 times in altepa to level her up then 2 more time to 32 then 2 more to 33 then 3 times (2 of which were in xcabard) to 34, your npc wont level quick it takes time... guess i shoulda mentioned that

and thanks ^^


and what about the time i took him to Jugner with my 27 Ninja, or the time i took him to Sanctuary of Zi'tah and killed a bunch of stuff that woulda been IT++ to him. then i took him to Batalia downs then Rolanberry fields... THEN i took him to altep and fought IT++++ with him... that is a valid mistake for you to say after only 1 day ive tried to level him.

frankly put he shoulda been level 31 at least by now IMO.


Actually your NPC caps at your level if your current job is under level 30. So there is no way your NPC could get level 31 when you were using a level 27 Ninja. It could not even earn any Exp that entire time seeing it was capped at 27, the same level as your Ninja.
#334 Jul 25 2005 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually your NPC caps at your level if your current job is under level 30. So there is no way your NPC could get level 31 when you were using a level 27 Ninja. It could not even earn any Exp that entire time seeing it was capped at 27, the same level as your Ninja.


You can level while being level capped, as long as you are getting exp.

I have leveled to 52 Sam, and 33 Rng, both in Promyvion. You even get the correct message. Imagine my surprise when I got "Karamethien attained leve 32" after we killed a Empty blocking our way.
#335 Jul 25 2005 at 3:09 PM Rating: Good
I haven't played much with my NPC, just one session a day out in Sauromugue Champain killing Evil Weapons and Tabar Beaks (as they are the only mobs that still con EP to my lvl 50 BST).

I don't know if this has been mentioned before (if so I do apologize, but I didn't feel up to reading 300+ posts to check).

Two observations:

1) As BST you can summon your NPC and a pet at the same time, effectively making you a three man party. You will get a double penalty though... The lowest XP I got was 9, which would have been a normal 18 point EP mob. I got 30% off for killing the mob with my pet still around (18 * 0.7 = 12.6). Then I took another 30% penalty for playing with my NPC (12.6 * 0.7 = 8.82 rounded to 9).

2) I noticed that, allthough my NPC is only level 31, she does not ever gain aggro from mobs that would normally aggro any level 31 player. For example: today I was fighting (as BST50/WHM25) an EP Tabar Beak with my NPC and CrabFamiliar while being surrounded by at least 3 Goblins. None of the Gobs aggroed. As they were all TW to me, it is normal they didn't aggro me... but for the NPC they should have been T, VT or even IT, therefor she should have drawn aggro. But she didn't. This probably means your NPC will never be aggroed, no matter what level mobs she encounters.

Nothing more to report, except that I believe the statement your NPC disappears after 15 fights. I know mine did say she was 'too exhausted from fighting and had to return home' twice now (yesterday and today) after exactly 15 fights. BTW, my NPC is a Female Hume called Nanako, playing in Attacker mode using a sword.
#336 Jul 25 2005 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
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So after 15 Fights my npc says,"reached quota", and after 45 minutes says,"It's getting late".

From my experience i'm gonna say that your npc will last either 45 minutes or 15 kills, whichever comes first
#337 Jul 25 2005 at 4:26 PM Rating: Decent
This is just a thought, but what if your NPC's attitude and personality affect it's starting job? People were saying that they think their NPC is a PLD because it intimidated a skeleton. Maybe because of it's personality it is a PLD. Can anyone prove or disprove this theory by what their NPC does and says? If someone already thought of this, sorry, I didn't read through all the posts.
#338 Jul 25 2005 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Nothing more to report, except that I believe the statement your NPC disappears after 15 fights. I know mine did say she was 'too exhausted from fighting and had to return home' twice now (yesterday and today) after exactly 15 fights. BTW, my NPC is a Female Hume called Nanako, playing in Attacker mode using a sword.


The reason you guys might be thinking 15 fights it maybe the quota is 3000 exp.

If you are level 50 killing things and your NPC is 30-ish. The NPC will be getting 200 exp a kill (assuming no chains and that their exp calculation is same as players).

I don't think the NPC will leave after 15 Too Weak Fights. Thought I never tried.
#339 Jul 25 2005 at 4:35 PM Rating: Decent
Today i finally was able to give my Char a weapon. Went out with another lS member and noticed something. The NPC's might not wear what their job class allows. EX: Freind had NPC as Sheild Went out lv'd NPC. Got new pearl was able to change to healer class. She was still wearing Bronze armor. Now maybe I think that they are not Classes like what we have to use but more of a guideline/combination of classes. Please share if you noticed same thing
#340 Jul 25 2005 at 4:41 PM Rating: Good
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turtlelin wrote:
Ok, got to trading some weapons to Luto. Here are the ones I've been able to get her to take.

Katana - Wakizashi
Polearm - Bronze Spear
Axe - Brass Axe
Scythe - Brass Zaghnal
Great Axe - Greataxe
Great Sword - Two-Handed Sword
H2H - Brass Knuckles

I haven't figure out the following:
Great Katana - Tried Nodachi, Kanesada, and Okanehira
Sword - Tried Brass Xiphos, and Spatha
Staff - Tried Holly Staff
Club - Tried Bronze Rod, and Brass Rod
Dagger - Tried Brass Dagger

That's all for now, I'm sure someone will come up with the ones i'm missing soon^^


I can't get mine to equip Wakizashi. What level is your NPC?
#341 Jul 25 2005 at 4:49 PM Rating: Good
I couldn't believe what happened when my NPC left half way through the FIRST fight in the Sanctuary of Zi'Tah against a Goobue.
#342 Jul 25 2005 at 4:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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My NPC is level 35. Traded a Wakizashi after taking NPC out for 12th time and talked to Luto again. Luto said my NPC wanted to upgrade her weapon. Then I traded Wakizashi.
#343 Jul 25 2005 at 5:23 PM Rating: Decent
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unsure if its been posted or not, but i thought you'dlike to knwo that in ATTACKER MODE the npc gets access to counter :)

leads me to belive attacker mode is war/mnk as i've also seen then double attack
#344 Jul 25 2005 at 6:48 PM Rating: Decent
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You can level while being level capped, as long as you are getting exp.

I have leveled to 52 Sam, and 33 Rng, both in Promyvion. You even get the correct message. Imagine my surprise when I got "Karamethien attained leve 32" after we killed a Empty blocking our way.


yes you can gain exp because you AND your npc were in a capped zone so you AND you npc were both level 30 so he gained the same exp as you did

but the other guy was NOT in a capped zone so his npc wouldnt get exp towards his level

#345 Jul 25 2005 at 6:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh, heres another little bit of information for you!

It may be old news to many of you, but your NPC's equipment can progress across one trend while you seem to play another. For instance...

I swiched my Mithra NPC to Healer mode as soon as I had braught her out 3 times. After 3 sessions with healer she had lost some scale gear and gained trader's gear, which seems normal for healer type. Next, I took her out as Attacker type and gave her a GKT to try out. I didnt like the results though, so I went back to Rendezvous point to change her job... and what do you know, she had gone from trader's gear to seer's gear. Joy, just what I wanted! The odd thing, of course, is that she *got* that gear while leveling as Attacker type while it is much more fitting of her more usual style, Healer. This suggests to me that perhaps equipment is gained via an overall trend, rather than isolated instances of gain.

Just thought you might like to know!
#346 Jul 25 2005 at 6:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Anyone tried trading bows or X-bows yet? Maybe if you trade some low level ones they might use them, or maybe throwing weapons of some kind?
#347 Jul 25 2005 at 7:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Went out with another lS member and noticed something. The NPC's might not wear what their job class allows.


The more I read the more I think that the actual armor they wear is little more than window dressing.

Maybe someone else has tested it out... I'd like to know if anyone's noticed a change in the amount of damage the NPC takes in different gear. I didnt notice any difference... and my NPC has gone from scale to lv 1 rse to lizard with no obvious difference in it's defense.

I think it'd be cool if the gear tended to improve based on how well/efficiently you use your NPC from day to day (exactly what that means, I dont know yet). But I'd settle for just having it show up in matching sets. :D

#348 Jul 25 2005 at 7:06 PM Rating: Decent
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yes you can gain exp because you AND your npc were in a capped zone so you AND you npc were both level 30 so he gained the same exp as you did

but the other guy was NOT in a capped zone so his npc wouldnt get exp towards his level


Hmm, I disagree. Zones themselves aren't capped; rather, a level cap is a condition inflicted upon a character under certain circumstances. For instance, when first entering promyvions you are given a level cap due to your current status. But later in CoP storyline you can re-enter uncapped (or so I understand) and be in the same area next to people who are capped. So to say an "area is capped" is actually to say that your character is given a capped status.

That being said, I think your NPC is just being given a "capped status" under these conditions, just like what you would get if you entered a promyvion under certain conditions. Therefore, I see no difference between this and PC capping, and I conclude that your NPC should be gaining EXP.
#349 Jul 25 2005 at 7:25 PM Rating: Decent
Your NPC's leveling is based on EXP, not some other condition like some others said. Mine finished after a normal fight, didn't even use a WS, and leveled. What seems to be confusing people is the lag between the end of the fight and seeing the message for the level.

After the fight, I was going to cure mine as it ended up tanking, but its HP bar refilled, and about 10 seconds later I got the level message (yes, it is a very big gap).
#350 Jul 25 2005 at 7:33 PM Rating: Decent
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ok nvm im done trying go ahead and level your npc's on level 10 jobs but just dont come back saying "why wont it level!!" because i told you why
#351 Jul 25 2005 at 7:45 PM Rating: Decent
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I am hoping either an option becomes available, or SE changes it so you can select through weapons you have dotated to the NPC. Having to buy a new weapon to switch over kinda stinks...
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