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#627 Jan 21 2016 at 9:30 PM Rating: Decent
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The new High Priest won't be killed (or doing so won't solve the greater issue).


Emphasis mine. I was just observing that depending on what the focus of the story is actually supposed to be, once Durkon heads off to the Dwarven lands to cause mayhem amongst the clan leaders, the godsmoot becomes a moot (haha!) issue. It's not actually needed anymore. Well, from a story arc point of view. Having the new high priest get dusted by Roy and Belkar right off the bat would be a bit strange from a "how did Hel think this was a valid plan B" point of view. But bad guys (and good guys) having poor plans isn't exactly a new thing for this strip. If the focus of the strip is the order dealing with an evil vamped Durkon, then the godsmoot has served its purpose for that story. Whether it remains as an additional threat isn't super relevant to the objective of the OotS. Either way, they're going after Durkon to stop his evil plan(s) and restore him to his real self.


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Burlew's already made it clear that he's dragging this out.


My understanding is that this book will deal entirely with character development and dwarves and other shenanigans and the whole "stop team evil" bit will be in the next (and final) book. Basically dealing with the fallout from the previous book, much as Don't Split up the Party did. Or... dragging it out.
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#628 Jan 21 2016 at 9:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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No, Burlew said that the OotS needs to save the world and right now Hel's plan is what it needs saving from. So you can expect this line to drag out throughout most of the book. It won't be Hel being thwarted 20% of the way in. Just like the clerics should have realized to attack Durkon but then it wouldn't be the Order saving the world.
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#629 Jan 21 2016 at 10:05 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
No, Burlew said that the OotS needs to save the world and right now Hel's plan is what it needs saving from. So you can expect this line to drag out throughout most of the book. It won't be Hel being thwarted 20% of the way in. Just like the clerics should have realized to attack Durkon but then it wouldn't be the Order saving the world.


Oh. I agree that's the most likely course of action. I'm just pointing out that it's not necessary for it to go that way. There could always be a plan C.
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#630 Jan 25 2016 at 2:58 PM Rating: Good
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I really hope it's the Royal Rat Authority.

Edited, Jan 25th 2016 3:58pm by Shaowstrike
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#632 Jan 26 2016 at 11:44 AM Rating: Good
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The pacing is so off that I've lost track of Cringer the Brave Tiger.
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#633 Jan 26 2016 at 11:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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Last we saw he was being taken down by rats (yeah, whatever).

Also Bloodfeast who must have been making his Will checks every day since he either has his pre-Polymorph hit point pool or else is remarkable durable for a max 1HD creature.

Edited, Jan 26th 2016 11:50am by Jophiel
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#634 Jan 26 2016 at 3:16 PM Rating: Good
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I love how Blackwing is deliberately muffing the scroll (at least, I assume that's what's going on).
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#635 Jan 29 2016 at 6:32 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
I love how Blackwing is deliberately muffing the scroll (at least, I assume that's what's going on).
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#636 Jan 29 2016 at 10:53 PM Rating: Good
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Apparently, this strip was intentionally written to establish the fact that in the stickverse, failing to properly use a magic device (like a wand or scroll) results in an explosion. It actually says so on the scroll Blackwing is reading (when translated properly). Or so I'm told.
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#637 Feb 01 2016 at 2:38 PM Rating: Good
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And.... V finally gets involved. Yay! The plucky animal sidekicks are victorious!
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#638 Feb 01 2016 at 5:42 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
I love how Blackwing is deliberately muffing the scroll (at least, I assume that's what's going on).
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The good thing is that I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing.

Aaaaand now I get what you mean. Apple-polly-loggies and a couple rate-ups for j00, gbaji.Smiley: tongue


Edited, Feb 1st 2016 4:42pm by Bijou
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"I prepared Cat-Retrieving Hand this morning."

Edited, Feb 2nd 2016 5:48am by Shaowstrike
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#640 Feb 02 2016 at 2:53 PM Rating: Good
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I guess V spends a lot of time moving unconscious pussy.
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I guess V spends a lot of time moving unconscious pussy.


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#642 Feb 08 2016 at 9:23 PM Rating: Good
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All talk; no action!!Smiley: mad
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All talk, no action, no punchline.
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#644 Feb 09 2016 at 5:36 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't know. The whole bit with Roy saying he knew that he did not count as the bodyguard of the new HPoH because "it was the single most frustrating way to rules lawyer it" was pretty good. Doubly so given all the drama about this on his site. That and the whole bit about not being responsible for damage to the staff thing. Honestly, what I liked about this page was that it put to rest a ton of ridiculous questions about "why can't this happen?" or "why didn't that happen?". Of course, this still didn't prevent someone on that site from asking (in the thread about this strip no less) "why doesn't Roy just go ahead and kill the new priest anyway?". Um... He spends like 4 panels explaining why he's not going to do this. Did you bother to read the thing?

Not sure how Burlew handles people on his site. I'd be all like "OMG! How clearly do I have to spell things out for you guys?", and then mass banning them for sheer stupidity. But then, I suppose that's not a good idea given that he makes his living off this. Still. I've got to imagine he's temped some times.
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#645 Feb 09 2016 at 5:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, it was basically just a bunch of lampshading to set up the next phase of the story.
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#646 Feb 10 2016 at 10:30 AM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
Doubly so given all the drama about this on his site.
Eh, unless he stabs himself through the hand over it forum drama really isn't noteworthy.
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Doubly so given all the drama about this on his site.
Eh, unless he stabs himself through the hand over it forum drama really isn't noteworthy.

Yeah, it's not like it's Steven Universe level drama. Smiley: tongue
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gbaji wrote:
Doubly so given all the drama about this on his site.
Eh, unless he stabs himself through the hand over it forum drama really isn't noteworthy.


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Speaking of people over-reacting on the OotS forums, a little more something-something for the reading audience.
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#651 Feb 12 2016 at 5:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Lol. They didn't even make it to the second page of this strip's discussion thread before someone said "why don't they just do <insert something specifically mentioned and rejected as not working in the very strip you're discussing>". Sigh. i seriously gain a much greater respect for the posters on this forum every time I read that forum.

As to the strip itself. More exposition and explanation. Which is fine. But the remaining question is: How's Belkar doing? I'm assuming Roy's heading out now, and V's heading in. So they should run into each other at some point. I'm assuming, given the "jump from one scene to another, because they're all basically happening at the same time" format of the last 20 strips or so, that we'll jump back and see Belkar dealing with the door guard vamp guy next. Probably concluding with one or both of Roy and V arriving. Maybe arriving on time, or maybe too late. Dun dun dun!

On that note though, there's lots of talk about the prophecy that Belkar will breathe his last breath before the end of the year, and tons of speculation about it happening here (gets vamped himself, or attacks the new HPoH without knowing the consequences, etc). I don't think that's going to be the case though. The strip is about the order of the stick, and he's a member. Given that there's one more whole book to go, I'm going to assume anything that permanent to one of the main characters will not happen in this book, but will at some point (probably quite late) in the final book.

Of course, this assumes an actual permanent death. If there's some other meaning for "breathe his last breath", that somehow still allows him to walk around and be a functioning character in the strip, that could happen at any time. What would be funny is him being vamped, but the "deep dark place" in his heart is actually his emerging chaotic goodness, and he turns into a nicer person as a result, so they decide to keep him that way. Possibly even foreshadowed by the whole bit with Durkon pretending to breathe (pointing out that vampires don't breathe). Um... Which I don't think is very likely. Having two members being vamped kinda steps on itself story wise. That and vampires are explicitly stated to be evil. Which, I suppose, could still result in him being less evil than now, but still. Probably not a condition that the team would allow to continue, doubly so after the betrayal by Durkon. Roy's not going to believe that Belkar isn't just as evil and more of a threat as a vampire than as a living halfling.

Maybe he gets turned into a sentient golem or something? Nah... That's just silly.
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