[Mage]PTR Fire Mage "Changes"Follow

From MMO-Champion:
I'm all for the increase in damage, but I really feel like it kinda missed the point. Still gonna be rng-lol-bursty, just higher rng-lol-bursty.

Edit: And I could be wrong, but I'm not so sure that'll do much to help scaling issues.

Edited, Oct 13th 2011 2:14pm by Poldaran

Edited, Nov 6th 2011 11:45pm by Poldaran

I'll be honest, I really don't know much about fire beyond the basics when I was working on Alys. But I agree with you. Every complain I've ever heard about fire is how RNG it is due to trying to time ignite with Combustion. Doesn't look like any of those changes will affect that. The T13 4 piece might though. I can't remember exactly what it is off the top of my head, but when something happens, Combustion CD is reduced by 3 seconds, and I'm pretty sure the something happens fairly often. Should be really nice for Frost as well, as it reduces the CD of Icy Veins.

At this point, I'm happy with anything that's not a nerf. I love pyro. I have always loved pyro. My blood elf fire mage looks like Drew Barrymore. That's how much I love pyro. I'm happy with anything that lets me play it without being looked at like a disease-ridden slum queen during an instance.

And I weep for your soul if you don't understand the Drew Barrymore reference. L2The80s.

I was just thinking coefficient tweaks(either the damage spells do or to T1 Hot Streak) would allow more for scaling than a static increase. Not asking that they make life altering changes(maybe remove the proc aspect of cleaving with Impact).

Well, just increasing the damage is helpful and probably a lot easier than completely redesigning the way the fire rotation works. They'll probably fix it better for MoP.

That's true, but it doesn't seem like it was nearly as bad during Wrath. Maybe that's because it was so strong for most of the expansion, so most people played it, but I don't remember people complaining about the RNG of fire back then.

I hear about it all the time now.

Fire was on top for Naxx and I believe Ulduar as well. Then Arcane was on top for ToC, partly because of the Incanter's Absorption gimmick on the twins fight. Also cause the fights were generally shorter. I'm pretty sure for ICC fire was back on top again, though I'll admit I didn't play much during the year ICC was out.

As I may have mentioned before, a fix to scaling would probably yield better results than a static damage increase, which I suspect is going to lead us to a point where arcane outscales fire again as we approach mid-HCs.

There's actually a lot to be said for stacking haste, considering the way more crit reduces the base procs of hot streak. I don't remember exactly how it maths out, though.

I have a feeling that trying to reforge gear as fire would make the Rawr tool very useful. =x

That would be... annoying. But this is why it's good to play with reforging and stat priorities in Rawr, before doing it in game!

Isn't Rawr not fully functional for feral druids though? I know it has 100% functionality for mages, resto druids, boomkins, and a couple other classes/specs. Like I don't use Rawr for theorycrafting stuff for my priest, because it's only about 50% functional for shadow priests.

Huh. I could have sworn one of the druid specs wasn't fully supported. Must be thinking of something else. =x