Locks are not over powered!Follow

Seriously, I was arguing with over HALF my guild (we had about 20 members online at the time) about locks being OP. They are such noobs it's not even funny, and I haven't even reached endgame yet! (they have) I tell them how other classes can pwn locks, but they're like 'well you can seduce!', so of course I say it doesn't last longer than 3s (if you're lucky and have everything timed right) because we have DoTs on them and you HAVE to have succy out (which I never do because it sucks compared to felhunter imo). I say that if they silence us, especially shadow, we're screwed (I'm aff so all I can do is run away... :) ), and they say that silences don't last longer than 4s. BS! I can't think of a silence that doesn't last less than 4s (and that's imp. cs for mages, which gives them 6s silence of a school of magic + 4s of silence). It just amazed me how they could throw out completely random ideas that would never work because it uses multiple demons. They completely forgot about how locks are cloth and if you stun us you can easily get in 1k damage (at high 50's) before it wears out, which is a third of my health. Since I haven't reached endgame, I don't know if it's true, but they said that locks have 10k health easily at 70, which I think is wrong but I know of locks that had 12-13k, so I didn't say much about it. I HATE people who say locks are OP no matter what class/spec we fight, because we AREN'T! There are so many ways to fight us it's not even funny. If you want an OP class, pick hunters (imo), and go BM if you want to wtfpwn locks.

/end rant

Edited, Apr 27th 2007 10:08pm by Miscelaneous

3 minute mages are the new locks now. Phew...

I really think that blizzard needs to ****** QUIT with the nerfs. I am referring to the fear nerf that is in the upcoming patch. Blizzard needs to put their foot down and quit giving into the crybabys. They need to say "look, here is what the skills are set to, and this is how they are going to stay." **** playing around with **** all the time.

You have it. If you have it, then it must be fair. Use it all you like, what the **** are they gonna do? All they can do it ***** about it.

So what your saying is as a rule of thumb you don't fight warlocks?

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Oh, and I've been soloed many a time by many a class and I tend to get owned in every arena match...maybe I just suck, but I honestly don't think warlocks are the best class in the game, not by a long shot.

I'd actually go with rogue, druid, and hunter as the classes I hate fighting more than a shadow priest, but yeah, a good shadow priest owns.

I think it really depends. In a BG, (My lock is only lvl 34 now), I have a blast, so long as I see who I'm needing to kill first. If it is 1v1, then I have no real issues at that level. Fear DOT DOT DOT, or DOT DOT Fear DOT if I see them first. :-) Either way, they usually die. Sometimes I do as well, but DOTs are the gift that keep on giving. (I'm PvE specced full affliction currently, but still get to have fun in the BGs).

If it is more than 1v1, then I get pwned because it seems all want to take out mages, locks and priests first (well, duh!). I do have such a blast though, and a hunter is the only other class that I think can really do a good job in confined spaces against elite mobs. My mage can kite stuff, but I have to have a lot of room.

I rolled a lock originally because I wanted to see how they worked because I was tired of getting pwned by them. I truely do enjoy playing them both now and I know why I get hammered by locks when I do get hammered by them. If I catch a lock unaware with my mage (not quite a 3 minute mage build, but very close), then I can kill one, especially if I get a lucky crit. But I was in haala the other day, 1v1 with a lock and was holding my own until I got a 5.6K soulfire crit on me.... DED, just DED. :-) I guess that's how a lock feels when I get a 5K pyroblast crit. lol!

To summarize my rambling post, locks really do very well 1v1 PvP and PvE according to my experience so far. OP? 1v1 I think so, but less so when there are groups around to support the other classes, in PvE? Not as much, as I find my mage kills stuff in PvE much more quickly, with the exception of being able to solo elites rather easilly.

I dont mind a fear nerf at all....as long as they also are nerfing priest and warrior fear.

There are so many ways to break fear anyway that you cant really rely on it to win battles.

Just hoping all the crybabies will finally STFU now and l2p.

Cry me a river about being feared. You don't hear me crying about your pet chewing on my ankles or your inviso backstab garbage or your bubble, your 3 minute mage clusterf*cks, your born-again pally talent, your druid turning into a cat and boning out or anything else that distinguishes a class and a spec. The classes are fairly balanced, everyone has their own bag of tricks. I've dabbled in lock, hunter, rogue, mage, and shammie, I've won and lost battles, and the only cinsistent factor in the equation is me. It boils down to how well you know your own class and that of your opponent. If you cop out and blame being gutted in a duel on fear, maybe start sinking some energy into figuring out how to counter it and less time griping about something you have no control over.
That being said, my main is a deep frost mage and I hate fighting locks as much as the next guy, but they're by no means bullet proof. Any lock will tell you there are chinks in that armor (just like all classes), you just have to find them. The biggest challenge with locks is the versatility in their ******** it's what make the class so formidable in PvP and imo, so much fun to fight =P. So pick up your skirt, grab your balls, and don't get all sad in the face over a duel you consented to

Umm, your in the Lock forum, kinda preaching to the choir here.

Stun does not break on damage at all, and althought they do not last as long, they are always instant and can be chained to let you do absolutely nothing. They do not need outside intervention and are not interruptable and cannot be locked down for belonging to a school of magic.


The only way to break stun IS a trinket, and up to now few classes had stun-breaking trinket, and it can be reapplied almost instantly in the right conditions. BW cannot be activated while stunned, Death Wish and Berserker Rage do not break stun, WotF does not break stun, there is no "stun ward", Tremor totem does not break stun and Grounding totem does not absorb fear, etc...


Destruction Warlocks who seduce-lock still exist. As do affliction locks who CoEx and kite fury warriors to death.
Now hand over the Grial mister Langdon...


Old habits die hard, especially when its about crying about getting your *** owned. L2P.

Edited, May 4th 2007 4:37pm by Azatodeth

Rogues can't keep you stunned until your dead? That's really funny. I guess someone better get to the 39 bracket BGs and tell that dwarf Rogue named Sista that what she's doing isn't possible!

Give me a freakin' break! The reason you're in here ******** and moaning is because 'Locks kick the crap out of Druids. Just like Hunters and Rogues kick the crap out of US.

I bet you'd be singing a different tune if someone told you that from now on, damage would knock you out of one of your animal forms, wouldn't you? You know, considering animal forms are one of the things that make Druids what they are, just like Fear is one of the things that makes Warlocks what they are.
Or what would you propose we do against you Druids, eh? DoT you up and then run like hell and hope that your faster than us animal forms won't be able to catch up until the DoTs are done? If they don't get removed that is.

Fear is so cheap and so overpowered and so game-breaking because it means you don't hold every single advantage over us. It's not enough that you have fast animal forms, it's not enough that you have healing, it's not enough that you have access to better Armor than we do. Why don't you just go play a single-player game on Kiddie Mode so you can feel like God, and stop complaining about what everyone else has that you don't have?

Edited, May 4th 2007 8:02pm by Mordaire

... Did you even read what I posted?


I don't expect to hold every single advantage over you. All things considered, I should be losing to 'Locks.

What I have a problem with is being chain-feared by the even-leveled 'Lock while he polishes off my Mage friend before turning on me and whittling my 2200 HP down to 300-500 before I even have a chance to cast a single spell, not that it does any good at that point.

Like I said... 'Locks themselves are fine. It's just Fear that needs a fix. It should have been breaking easier for a long, long time now. And Warlocks don't need it. You have plenty of tools and plenty of damage to fair perfectly well without chained, 12-second Fears. It's being used as a crutch, and your leg isn't even broken.