Beat down by a rogue 2 levels beneath me. WHY?Follow

Exactly my point. How many rogues hit Evasion as soon as they start fighting a warrior?

Besides, at low health, when most rogues do pop evasion, you get to choose between a couple Overpower crits (and the Bleed effect which prevents any chance at restealthing), or a 3k Execute (GG, done like dinner) since warriors apparently get full rage bars whenever they enter PvP.


Ever tried playing a warrior? You get much more rage from doing damage than from taking damage. On top of that, you get much more rage from critical strikes than from normal strikes.


Exactly. Just throw in a Crippling Poison, maybe blind them and restealth once all the DoTs wear off, rinse and repeat, and they're toast.

As a Warrior, I LOVE when rogues pop evasion. With imp overpower crit is basically guaranteed. It usually happens when theyre low health too. Instead of increasing their life span, they end up greatly shortening it.

Similarly, I have never lost to a rogue who popped evasion, but stun lock gets the job done about 50% of the time.

Could people clarify - step by step if you don't mind - what you mean by using the mouse to move please?

I'm so used to asdw keys to move that it's ingrained. Also there are several ways to move w/ the mouse - anyway, if you could explain in more detail, I'd sure appreciate it. Thanks.

IponemaGirl,
if you "Right Click" and hold you will note that now when you move the mouce you actualy move the Feild of Vision. This lets you "Trun arround" very quickly. Rather than using the "A" key to spin untill you face 180 Degrees, right click and move to the left, you will notice you go much faster than by pressing the A and D keys. Actualy moving is the same speed, but as for turning... use the mouse.

Beleive it or not, the first folks I EVER saw doing this was hunters for the "Jump Shoot" trick where they would jump, flip 180 shoot, then flip back, usualy before hitting the ground, this let them get off instant shots , like connsucsive, arcane or a sting. Soon after Melee classes started picking up on it. For the most part it is now thought of as the PvP standard.

Last time I checked, the effect of Crippling poison is greater than your hamstring effect, and a good rogue knows that. So if you run backwards, I'm going to run forwards, and it doesn't take someone more than a fight or few to figure that one out.

Since I know someone is going to comment that.

"I can't intimidating shout because deep wounds"

You wait for the deep wounds to tick, then you hit it.

A good strategy to use if the rogue stealths right after the duel had been set is to use blood rage and then go to an area where you think the rogue is (or just run around a bit til you hear the noise meaning you can kinda see the rogue, but is still stealthed) then thunderstomp, which will break his stealth AND slow his attacks (Note-if you want to even be able to use this technique, you have to have some points in imp bloodrage and imp thunderstomp;having points in both will make it so you have more time to run around 'looking' for the rogue)

Hope that helps :p

Rogues actually hit extremely hard and you should never underestimate their damage.

JeremyRG.
You were probably beat because of one or more of these reason:

1) The rogue was twinked (had exceptional gear and enchantments for his level)- Nothing you can do about this but try for better gear.

2) At your level you lack several skills that give us an edge. Alot of people are throwing terms around like Deep wounds, second wind, intercept, berserker stance, mortal strike, etc. These are simply things you wont have at your level. The fight at your level is mostly a DPS battle. In straight DPS battle, a Rogue is better. - Try an old boxing phrase "Stick and Move". You don't want a rogue using his speed against you. If you can keep him from attacking you when your weapon is cycling you're going to win. I use the Q and E keys in conjunction with the mouse turn to strafe and turn both. This keeps me on the move circling around the rogue instead of letting him get behind me. By doing this, I often move out of his range or out of his frontal attack area. The rogue will not have the oportunity to strike me 25-75% of the time depending on his skill.

3) You let him get back into stealth - Although there are times you have no choice. Try and drop a rend on them as soon as possible and keep it on them. After using rend, use hamstring to slow their movements. This will also increase your chances when using the technique listed above under #2. When they manage to get back into stealth, try using your AoE abilities to pull them back out. Another item you could try is Oil of Immolation http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?wspell=11451&source=live It will help to keep them out of stealth.

4) It's possible this person was simply a very skilled player. Don't judge your ability to kill rogues based on an encounter with a single rogue.

5) Don't take this wrong, but it's possible that you just need more practice. You said yourself that you havent been playing a warrior very long.


For those of you fighting on behalf of the rogue...
I won't dispute the fact that some rogue players out there are skilled and might have the chance to beat a warrior in PVP. But that wont change the fact that Rogues are the easiest class for a warrior to beat. Its intentional by Bliz. In the great WoW Paper-Scissors-Rock game, we're the rock, and you're the scissors.

Perfectly said. Every good game has its Rock-Paper-Scissors game. If it didnt then there would be no strategy.

things will get better for you as you level up. at 50 i dueled a 56 rogue and really kicked his @$$. i still had about 1/3 of my health left =P

i also got a surprise attack on a ?? undead warrior(arms i suspect, he was uaing a 2hander). i used bloodrage, intercept, hamstring, berserker rage, battle shout, death wish, RECKLESSNESS!!!!!!!, rampage, and then i just used bloodthirst every 6 seconds with heroic strikes in between. that's my typical combat strategy on 1 vs 1 pvp(except for reck, the CD is way too long). by the time i got his health low enough to about 1/5, reck wore off but i wasn't concerned b/c i still had 1/2 my health left, and i could just spam execute until he died. i got him down to what i would estimate to be 5%... and then he used a health pot. so at that point i couldn't use reck, DW, execute, or even berserker rage, so that guy was able to kill me quickly then. still, i think i pretty well considering the circumstances.

also, when i was fighting in av to get the ice barbed spear (i was 51 at the time), i managed to kill a 60 hunter.

ok, those last two fights had nothing to do with warriors fighting rogues... but i thought they were too awesome not to share :p