This is the 3rd/4th Best body Pld can wear extreamly useful very nice gear.. Cover Effect on this aint like anything, Converts 20% of dmg 2 MP... and Btw 1st and 2nd would be koening and ares's... And you can have too Much vit on this so those who stack alot of bit normaly do it for the def bonus since vit has it's limit on reducen max dmg since most mobs can't break a sertain limit..... Also like 2 add haven def also reduce's ur hate losse Not directly but getting hit=hate loss getting hit for 3dmg=less hate losse than getting hit for 100dmg. Averge Set up would use: Def, HP and Enmity
This is the 3rd/4th Best body Pld can wear extreamly useful very nice gear.. Cover Effect on this aint like anything, Converts 20% of dmg 2 MP... and Btw 1st and 2nd would be koening and ares's... And you can have too Much vit on this so those who stack alot of bit normaly do it for the def bonus since vit has it's limit on reducen max dmg since most mobs can't break a sertain limit..... Also like 2 add haven def also reduce's ur hate losse Not directly but getting hit=hate loss getting hit for 3dmg=less hate losse than getting hit for 100dmg. Averge Set up would use: Def, HP and Enmity
"So if PLD get hit for 20 damage like 10 damage when DEF is up, is 10 damage like 20 damage when PLD have VIT off koenig body? Or is 30 damage like 10 damage when PLD get hit?"
Seriously, you're an Idiot. Please GTFO and never play PLD. The only body piece better than Valor Surcoat is most likely Hydra Haubert. Koenig body is nothing but a "Once in awhile" Situation piece which is medicore at best. Ares is decent but Valor is still much better. Also Valhalla Breastplate would be up there but with the slow effect it is bad for /NIN tanking. Also your spelling is horrible, only showing you are indeed A moron. You are most likely one of those Adaman wearing moron PLD's who think's they know sh*t about sh*t they don't know about, and can't put together one complete sentence. So once again PLEASE GTFO.
To anyone looking at this beautiful body piece. Untill you get Hydra Haubert this is the best "All around" body piece you can get, with Ares falling in 2nd then Valhalla then way down the line Koenig body.
When used properly, the Cover effect makes a big difference in many end-game scenarios. Extra HP, DEF and enmity is more important to a PLD than 4 VIT. If you manage to get the the AF2 body, you can permanently stow away your Gallant Surcoat.
JP have been running around with these for years in huge numbers. Sometimes I wonder how they get so many. Thus far I have seen 4 NA on our server with one (maybe we're just really really unlucky).
If you are at the stage where you can do dynamis and wear the artifacts there, you should know that VIT isn't as important endgame. The enmity, HP, and solid DEF more than outshines the 4 measly VIT on the Gallant.
#REDACTED,
Posted:Mar 30 2006 at 12:49 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Im not a big fan of this set most of the set doesnt give you any vitality although teh hp is nice but id prefer 20 vit to 100-200 hp cause in the long run that vit is gonna help you out more although intrested on thoughts
+Vit is good, but IMO, this has *most other armor sets beat for most purposes ( and don't include Koenig when I when I say *most)
Why? Well here's what you get....
Valor Surcoat: +4 Emnity, +3 Dex +23 Hp, Enhances Cover Valor Corronet +3 Emnity, +10 Healing Magic, +18 Hp,Enhances Rampart Valor Leggins +1 Emnity, +3 Mind, +18 Hp, Enhances Sentinel Valor Breeches +3 Eminty, +5 Str, +18 Hp,10% Magic Interruption Down Valor Gauntlets +3 Emnity, +5 Vit, +18 Hp,Enhances Shield Bash
That's +16 Emnity, +5 Vit, +5 Str, +3 Dex, +3 Mind, +55 Hp, and a hell of a lot of ehnancements, which may make or break a tank.
No, not +Vit Heavy, but I just unequipped Body, Hands, Legs, Feet, and Head, and have +21 Vit. +Vit isn't hard to come by as a Pld. Equipment that gives both Emnity and makes you well rounded is hard to come by.
As a paladin you whould want to wear your Vit+ gear over anything else first. This set if desinged to keep a well rounded paladin with Enmity bonus. If your in a party where your not losing hate with the gear you have then stick with it, but if you losing hate from a nuke happy blk or ws hungry mnk, then changing to some of your afv2 gear is a good option to help keep your hate.
Very happy to be doing dynamis runs for a half year now, and to finally get this drop. I'm now 4/5 with Valor, only missing the legs from the Glaciar. The Paladin NM in dynamis has droped only 2 Valor Surcoats in the over 20 runs I think we had. I never seen a regular mob drop this. This is a very rare drop, very rare. To actully see it drop is worth the SS. Yes, I think this gear is great. It's not Koenig or kaiser, but this is a good hate piece for the party setup.
Some notes to take, the Defense:51 is actully a in game typo, this actully gives +55 defense when worn. Aslo the MP restore works when you Cover somobody who has hate. It will restore 25% mp to the total of damage taken doing cover. (Example whould be if I take 100 points in damage, I regain 25 MP.) Just for kicks I covered a ninja who was tanking whitemage af3 nm, I seen my MP jump from 209 to 240 and that is a nice bonus in my book.
"Edit: In a future dynamis run I used "Cover" on our other paladin who was getting hit from a mobs 100 fists, my MP shot to full from the "Cover". Man thats just sweet lol."
Apperently, only three people have these on Bahamut.... and two of these people both are in the same LS <TheOrderOfTheBlueGatr> and they got them both on the same night doing a Dynamis run.. both in a matter if half an hour, pretty lucky..
Would be easier to call it a AFII and leave the quest afs with regular #'s. it doesent matter really people still get the point because there is a huge frikin gap between valor and gallant.
Either they did something to the drop rate or Midgarsormr has gotten very lucky recently, we have gone from having 0 on the server to 5 dropping in the last 2 months, I got our LS' second last night O_o I think maybe Midgardsormr has gotten lucky, since some servers still do not have even 1?
No, any of the "normal" Kindred Demons in Dynamis Xarcbard can drop it, and the Paladin type Demon NM Marquis Sabnak will only drop this, no other type of AF2. It is rare as stink though. There is only one on Midgardsormr, belonging to Nohl, a JP.
Dynamis Lord is supposed to drop shadow mantle and shadow ring occasionally, and supposedly he sometimes drops a 100 piece of currency or a 10,000 piece of currency.
#REDACTED,
Posted:Feb 22 2005 at 8:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Its RELIC armor guys... not AF2... if I was to say AF2 in say Jeuno... Someone would help me out on my... what AF gloves...
... Actually it is AF2 not relic! There is no such thing as relic armor. Just relic weapons. AF2 is the second set of Artifact armor, AF-2 (note the DASH) is Paladin's boots (not gloves). So please, YOU get it right first. *sigh*
I call Valor and other sets AF2, AF1 boots I call AF boots or gallant boots, abjuration gear I just call either koenig *slot* (i.e. koenig head 0/10 seiryu WTF), or m *slot* (i.e. m head)
God gear usually refers to things like haidate or osode because not all abj's drop off gods.
I find this easiest and people should be able to understand wtf you're talking about..
People need to quit putting labels on everything, it actually makes you look like a noob lol...
I have Valor Hands, 0/2 for surcoat in xarcabard :( We did get to DL with 38 people though... not bad :D
LMAO! my god only xModeratorx got it right. the previous posts are very much off. thank xModeratorx for clearing it up for you guys. AF2 is what ppl call it, but Relic is the correct named for it.
Different servers/LS/nationalities have different conventions for naming, and none of this stuff except AF1 is specifically given category names in the game. Cursed/Abjuration gear is sometimes called "god" gear, especially in Japan, because it all drops from god HNMs, be it sky gods or land gods. Relic is only used by most people when talking about Dynamis weapons, not AF2. Little point insisting it is called something since there is no "official" category name.
The way the enhanced cover on this works is when the PLD's getting hit while covering they still take damage but it converts the damage into some MP.
One of the PLD's in my LS got this and when we did sewer syrup last night he covered a BLM and each time he was hit he received 20 mp while covering, with gallant coronet and valor surcoat on.
Enhances "Cover" effect allegedly makes the PLD invincibled to all covered damage, it will hit for 0, it is not the same as "Cover+1" on Save the Queen which makes cover last longer. Just like the third eye enhancing AF2 for SAM makes third eye do counterstance, it does not make it last longer.
That in itself causes a problem, say you use it to cover a BLM who has pulled hate off a big burst, you count as taking 0 damage on behalf of the BLM, the BLM looses no hate from damage inflicted by the mob, they are dependent on you to do some ability or something to get hate back before your cover wears off.
Also, this dissapointing piece stat wise, the AF1 body is better for almost every situation with VIT+4 and HP+20. Basically it would be cool to use it in combination with STQ in an exp party, but not many over situations =T This piece still looks wonderful though, any PLD would give their back teeth for one :)