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DEX+1 AGI+1
Lv.30 All Jobs
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# Dec 23 2007 at 10:28 AM Rating: Decent
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I really don't see what's wrong with this item.

Many jobs have nothing, or next-to-nothing to wear in the Ammo slot until way later in levels, when you get things like Bomb Cores, and such. DEX+1 and AGI+1, while very small bonuses, are better than nothing at all. Many jobs have nothing to wear in the Ranged slots, such as Dragoons, Monks, and other jobs.

DEX, while a small bonus, does help accuracy. .5 ACC for a One-Handed weapon, or .8 ACC for a Two-handed weapon.

AGI, while a small bonus, does help evasion.

I can assure you that -anyone- could benefit from this item, regardless of job, unless there is a better item instead.

For MNK and DRG, there is next to nothing else to wear in this slot, except what, Pebbles? How often does a MNK or a DRG actually get asked to pull?

For Mages, the only other thing is a Morion Tathlum, but not everyone has one of those. If you don't have a Morion Tathlum, this isn't bad either. AGI+1 is better than absolutely nothing.

For WARs, SAMs, NINs, DRKs, etc who *can* equip a Ranged Weapon, if you are not the puller, then there is little other reason to not equip this, unless you intend to use Acid Bolts (which NIN cannot do). I don't know too many NINs who tank and pull (pulling always brings with it, the danger of losing shadows on the pull), so it is likely you will be pulling as NIN. Other than trying for a few extra TP while throwing a chakram, I see nothing else a NIN would want from her ranged slot at Lv30. AGI+1 would help her EVA, and DEX+1 would give .5 ACC. Both of which a NIN needs. For SAMs, unless you are the puller, or seriously trying to squeeze out extra TP from ranged attacks, there is absolutely no reason to not wear this. .8 ACC helps.

So, in the end, the only jobs I can see who DON'T want to wear this:

RNG: They are constantly using ranged attacks and cannot afford to give up their ranged slot for this. Attempting to macro this in is still useless, as it wipes their TP.

PUP: The Animator goes in the same slot.

Puller: Obviously, if you are pulling, you are using a Ranged Weapon.

WAR/THF/DRK: If you have Acid Bolts, you are probably using those instead of this. If you do not have Acid Bolts, and are not the puller, use this instead. DRKs could even pull with Poison if they wanted to, again, the .8 ACC thing.

Mages: If you don't have a Morion Tathlum, use it. If you have a Morion Tathlum, use that instead.

Otherwise, if you have this, use it! I mean, what Else are you gonna put in that slot? Pebbles?
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# Jul 17 2006 at 2:29 PM Rating: Decent
So Im a theif and this would be a nice addition to my equipment. My question is what would be thrown if i hit /ra while i had my boomerang and this equiped at the same time??
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# Jul 06 2008 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
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i would suggest that if you are indeed pulling, that you can make a macro to switch to your ranged weapon to attack, and back to the satchet after your ra att is over
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# Aug 12 2006 at 12:22 AM Rating: Decent
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You can only equip:

- a ranged weapon (gun/bow/crossbow)

or

- ranged ammo (bolt/bullet/arrow)

or

- ranged weapon + ammo (gun+bullets)

or

- a throwing weapon (boomerang/chakram)

or

- throwing ammo (tathlum/dart)

as soon as u equip any of this things, everything not fitting will be unequiped.
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# Aug 12 2006 at 12:20 AM Rating: Decent
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gotta love alla -.- at first the **** doesnt post it at all, then double, then when u wanna edit the 2nd it open's the window to edit the original post made by someone other -.-

Edited, Aug 12th 2006 at 1:28am EDT by Catslave
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# Jul 30 2006 at 4:11 AM Rating: Decent
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You can't have this and boomerang equipped at the same time, they are both the "throwing" slots. I assume you thought this was ammo. And if I'm wrong... the game won't let you, kind of like having bolts in the spot, they are kicked out when you put a boomerang on.
You kind of have to pick one, except as a thief you are usually pulling, meaning you can't have this in your equip. Even if you /equip macro'd it in and out, that'd be a bad idea since it resets your TP
Kinda useless...
# Mar 27 2006 at 1:32 PM Rating: Decent
When I try to think of practical uses for this as a Mithra, the first jobs that come to mind are THF, NIN, and RNG.

THF: The only problem residing with this is that THF would be unable to pull and there are weapons u can put in throwing that give dex or agi as u level. So for THF this sucks.

NIN: Since NIN have A+ Throwing rank, most NIN's are inclined to use a Chakram or Dart to level this up. In sky, usualy a NIN or RNG will throw a God weakening item to help in god battles. Thus why NIN level throwing. So yea thsi isnt practical for a NIN.

RNG: Uh i shouldnt have to explain this. 1. Your losing ur main way dealing dmg u have. 2. Dex and Agi would serve best for ranged attack on xbow and critical rates... o wait u have no xbow to use wen using this. Yea this sucks.

Now other melee jobs i know of like SAM WAR DRK etc might make good use of it i guess. But only if they arent pulling or using status effecting bolts. Basicly the trouble u have to go thru to get this is kinda not worth it. I realy dont see any Mithras using this at all 30+ and I think these are reasons why.

Mithra realy got the shaft on these.

Edited, Mon Mar 27 12:32:59 2006
Kinda useless...
# Feb 27 2007 at 12:52 AM Rating: Decent
I don't get why this is useless for NIN, THF, RNG...Doesn't anyone use gear swapping macros anymore?

Kinda useless...
# Aug 12 2006 at 12:26 AM Rating: Decent
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amen. . .

DEX is nice for a buncha WS and stuff. . .but
lightning bow adds more DEX, most melee classes can or should use ranged weapons, buncha xbows or boomerangs at AGI (and more then 1). . .looking at how elv became a 2STR weapon which is basically unique and as that almost unrivaled. . . .
Kinda useless...
# Mar 10 2007 at 10:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Except if you use gear swap, you lose TP. So...Yeah.
Anyone Know?
# Feb 18 2006 at 2:09 PM Rating: Decent
Anyone know which NM that this Sachet would be the easiest from? As in most frequest drops?
#REDACTED, Posted: Nov 12 2005 at 2:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) GRRR thats stupid as thf i want the +dex and + agil butttt nooooo im a stupid elvaan so i dont get it! GRRR
MNK Ammo Slot
# Nov 10 2005 at 6:26 PM Rating: Decent
this would be very good for a mithra mnk
RE: MNK Ammo Slot
# Nov 16 2005 at 4:24 PM Rating: Default
Pray tell why would a Mithra MNK (of all job and race combos) would want this? DEX and AGI realy dont play a crucial role as a MNK (DD). STR, Attack, Acuracy, and VIT are a MNK's Strong points (VIT not being one of the mithras best stats). Not only that as a Mithra you have enuf DEX and AGI already as it is.

A Mithra MNK should Probly strive to max out STR and atk over dex and agi. The Enkalados line of Bracers (or any gear simular) in my opinion are probly what Mithra MNK should look for in gear for ther MNK stats.

As MNK, your Ammo slot should only have 1 of the following 3 items in its slot: Pebbles (for pulling wen Chi blast is cooling down or not an option), Happy Egg (VIT and HP percent), or Tiphia Sting (Acc and atk).

Edited, Wed Nov 16 16:54:00 2005
RE: MNK Ammo Slot
# Jan 16 2006 at 11:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Combo, Backhand Blow, and Raging fist are all partially bassed on dex :x
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RE: MNK Ammo Slot
# Mar 27 2006 at 1:19 PM Rating: Default
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Combo, Backhand Blow, and Raging fist are all partially bassed on dex :x


Combo and Raging Fists are based on STR and VIT.

Backhand Blow is random critical and is left up to chance rather than dex.
RE: MNK Ammo Slot
# Nov 17 2005 at 3:48 PM Rating: Decent
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ok... ture monk is not the job that comes to mind when I think of dex and agi. but come on, why would it be such a bad idea? Yes the Tiphia Sting would be better and the happy egg is also nice but not everyone has been here since last easter and the Tiphia Sting is not free.
RE: MNK Ammo Slot
# Nov 29 2005 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good
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Nothing in this game is free except your adventurers coupon. You have to kill a NM for the Tiphia Sting, and you have to kill a NM for this.
Meh.
# Nov 08 2005 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
Got this last night. It's kinda cool, but not all that useful, as said already. Ran around looking for the ??? mark for 3 hours before one of the NMs droped it (was 1/3, all at the spawn by PLD flag area). Although as a mage I did find it useful in a skill up party. +1 DEX isn't all that bad, considering nothing else better for acc to put there. Although I'd have liked the Taru one more. +2 INT, for free. {Yes, please.}
RSE Enhance
# Nov 07 2005 at 4:31 PM Rating: Decent
These look like they enhance your races Strong point further Tarus get int Elv get STR Galkas get VIT ect so thats kinda kool and being a Mithra Sam ill take the DEX and AGI till i get something better ^^
thanks for the info
# Nov 07 2005 at 1:59 PM Rating: Decent
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that kinda sucks unless i am a drk lol but since i am thf its not helping me out lol maybe when i go to rdm that might be nice but doubtful to use rather use a bow more fun lol even though i wont use the bow to much mithra already have enough dex and agi lol give other races some. lol
RE: thanks for the info
# Nov 07 2005 at 2:55 PM Rating: Decent
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!
RE: thanks for the info
# Nov 12 2005 at 9:45 AM Rating: Decent
lol r u on drugs? THF main stats are DEX and AGI quit ur job plz <3 kthx bye
RE: thanks for the info
# Mar 15 2006 at 9:15 PM Rating: Default
lightning bow+1 +3 dex ftw. quit this game. w
RE: thanks for the info
# Dec 01 2005 at 10:31 PM Rating: Decent
DEX and AGI may be important to a THF, but a ranged weapon that can be used to pull/enfeeble mobs beats this. Switching ranged weapons resets TP to 0 so no use in a SATA macro either.
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# Nov 07 2005 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Sachet 30 10 999 All Jobs (Hume Male Only)
STR+1 INT+1
Maze of Shakhrami : "Aroma Crawler"
Gusgen Mines : "Aroma Fly"
Ordelle's Caves : "Aroma Leech"
* You investigate ??? among Racial weeks.

●●Millefleurs Sachet 30 10 999 All Jobs (Hume Female Only)
STR+1 INT+1
Maze of Shakhrami : "Aroma Crawler"
Gusgen Mines : "Aroma Fly"
Ordelle's Caves : "Aroma Leech"
* You investigate ??? among Racial weeks.

●●Olibanum Sachet 30 10 999 All Jobs (Elvaan Male Only)
STR+2
Maze of Shakhrami : "Aroma Crawler"
Gusgen Mines : "Aroma Fly"
Ordelle's Caves : "Aroma Leech"
* You investigate ??? among Racial weeks.

●●Attar Sachet 30 10 999 All Jobs (Elvaan Female Only)
STR+2
Maze of Shakhrami : "Aroma Crawler"
Gusgen Mines : "Aroma Fly"
Ordelle's Caves : "Aroma Leech"
* You investigate ??? among Racial weeks.

●●Sweet Sachet 30 10 999 All Jobs (Tarutaru)
INT+2
Maze of Shakhrami : "Aroma Crawler"
Gusgen Mines : "Aroma Fly"
Ordelle's Caves : "Aroma Leech"
* You investigate ??? among Racial weeks.

●●Civet Sachet 30 10 999 All Jobs (Mithra)
DEX+1 AGI+1
Maze of Shakhrami : "Aroma Crawler"
Gusgen Mines : "Aroma Fly"
Ordelle's Caves : "Aroma Leech"
* You investigate ??? among Racial weeks.


●●Musk Sachet 30 10 999 All Jobs (Galka)
VIT+2
Maze of Shakhrami : "Aroma Crawler"
Gusgen Mines : "Aroma Fly"
Ordelle's Caves : "Aroma Leech"
* You investigate ??? among Racial weeks.
hume throwing RSE?
# Nov 07 2005 at 9:07 AM Rating: Decent
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is there also one of these for every race and if so does neone know what the stats are for the hume one causei cant seem to find it any where thanks
Its like RSE
# Nov 07 2005 at 7:36 AM Rating: Decent
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There are actually 3 NMs that can drop this. Its like the RSE except the NM spawns from a ??? in the zone. If its your RSE week the NM can spawn. I've submitted the info to alla about the gusgen mob, an aroma fly. I've heard the maze one is the aroma crawler.

Edited, Mon Nov 7 07:47:20 2005
Dragoon ammo slot
# Nov 07 2005 at 4:32 AM Rating: Decent
As a dragoon, I can look at this and drool for a eternity.
Dragoon ammo slot
# Jan 23 2007 at 12:15 AM Rating: Decent
Rate Up! Amen, Brother. I'm glad someone said it, even though I like when people flame an item, makes less people want to camp nm. So as long as theres one good post on how to obtain it, people like us can go undisturbed and later woop @$$ with it. Unlike all these negative, close minded players that just flame all day long. :P
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