Weekly Marmot - The Grind

Lore tackles the big issue - grinding.

It's the big issue, and it's hung over World of Warcraft - and all MMORPGs - like a thick sheet of whale blubber, and Lore would like to talk with you about it: Why does everyone hate the grind?

He has a slightly different take on it, and what's funny is (without having played the game for ages), I completely agree with him. Namely, that the grind is just fine in WoW. It belongs. And it works.

Julian "Mirai" Williams


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The problem...
# Jan 07 2013 at 11:37 PM Rating: Good
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So these are all very good points, but they really do illustrate the problem very well. First off, "grind' does not equal "character progression". You are right in that people want systems of progression, but you shouldn't use it with grind interchangeably. They are not the same. A grind is an implementation of a sort of progression system, but it is not the sole implementation. Coming up with fun, rewarding, and innovative implementations of progression has been pretty much the problem with the industry since WoW came out. WoW, in 2004, came out with the archetype that you see today, and now many of the mmos that have come out since have been labled wow clones mainly due to similar mechanics. You have rep grinds, xp grinds, quest grinds, craft grinds etc. in pretty much every single one of these games and they all play remarkably similarly. Its the reason you see many franchises that you might expect to have successful games really not enjoy anywhere near the same success as a WoW. People have been there and done that, and the ones that arent there anymore are looking for something truly innovative to come of the out of the industry to catch their attention. Why play a LOTRO, SWTOR or whatever when it is pretty much the same thing as WoW? The only reason would be is if you are interested in that IP more. Right now I feel the industry is in stagnation and this video and the views of WoW devs demonstrates this to a great degree.

"Oh God Don't Kill Me"
# Jan 07 2013 at 8:29 PM Rating: Good
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Did anybody else notice the words "Oh God Don't Kill Me" flash on the screen real briefly during the last couple seconds? lol
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