Don't Buy Gold!

Recently Eyonix made a post stating some reasons why buying gold is bad and effects everyone. According to Blizzard an alarming high majority of the gold comes from hacked accounts, a lot of players these days know at least one person who has been hacked and knows how devastating it can be to a player. A lot of these people have been hacked by either getting keyloggers or using power-leveling services and then being hacked months later. They also make baby murlocs cry according to Eyonix.

Blizzard has also created an informational page on this whole subject which you can view here.

You can read the original post after the jump.

Original post here:

Buying gold makes baby murlocs cry. If that isn’t enough to dissuade you all by itself, you might be interested in checking out the informational webpage that we put together to make sure players have the facts about the negative impact of purchasing gold and using power-leveling services. Our goal is to shed some light on how these companies operate, share some of the measures we’re constantly taking to combat them, raise awareness of the detrimental effects these services have on all players -- not just the buyers -- and help protect members of our community from being targeted by them. So give it a read -- it’ll only take a few minutes. And don’t buy gold. Because you wouldn’t want little Murky’s tears on your conscience, would you?

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/antigold.html

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# Oct 21 2009 at 4:56 PM Rating: Default
Simple lag will cause glitches, but let go back to a long time ago in a wow no so far away when during a patch update all PVP gear was worth 0 arena points. Most of the "HACKS" are improperly tested items on Blizzards end. I really don't believe in the Authenticator! I believe its a blizzard ploy to get users to spend more money. Lets claim someone got hacked when we leaked the information out to other people cause our system isn't secured enough. I'm pretty sure if I'm logging in with an IP from Florida and 5 min later I'm logging in from China that something is wrong. Not saying I haven't logged into my wife's account from a different state just so I can get something crafted, which the authenticator would jack up! Considering I'm always on the road the authenticator is not for me. I'm not always in a place with wireless so my Ipod Touch is out of the question and if I lost the lil usb thing ( which would be one more damn thing for me to loose ) I'd be SOL. The addition of battle net has fixed some of the problems, but now people have a direct e-mail address to hijack your e-mail account and then from there get into your wow account. Anyone else remember the HOTMAIL work around people were using with MSN messenger? For people who post their myspace/facebook/twitter info on their page including their screen names all it takes is your hometown info to get into your hotmail account after a lost password. Hmmm now that they have your e-mail they have your WOW anyways and can change your password and authenticator is useless! Personally I've never been hacked... then again I tend not to use that many addons ( that many keyloggers are hidden in! ) Curse gaming for a while had a huge problem with that but it seems to be fixed. With people with MANGOS I understand developing a local hack to get info. I'm just saying I'm not buying into the whole " GOLD SPAMMERS create programs to steal gold BS" IF you enter your info or give your info out that is your fault. If you download some off the wall addon to "TRY IT OUT" then that is your fault as well! And I do believe Blizzard is not 100% safe when it comes to my account info. I'm pretty sure someone there on the side is selling your info to people just to make a few extra bucks. Look at the quality of things lately. After every patch there is horrible lag, the next expansion is poorly done and all for 5 levels, they are removing green stats to make gear easier to calculate for their side and the lazy user side, oh ya and they still take up to 2 weeks to respond to one GM ticket on most servers, then say too much time has passed! With all the lag based glitches in the game things they can not put 100% of the blame on anyone else other than themselves! They are just blowing smoke screen up our asses and most people are buying it. Shows you how un-intelligent most people are if they are gonna buy into this crap just because they miss use the 100+ million they receive a month from us users!
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# Oct 21 2009 at 6:14 PM Rating: Decent
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I believe its a blizzard ploy to get users to spend more money


Oh come on now, that's ridiculous. The thing costs $6.50 with free shipping. I have a feeling if anything, Bliz is seeing a buck off of each sale.
banned...
# Oct 21 2009 at 9:00 AM Rating: Decent
Well I just got an e-mail this morning that my account was banned for buying gold. I have never done it personally cause I think it's stupid. I have never had any signs of my account being hacked either. So now I have to try and get a hold of Blizzard to try and straighten this all out.
I know...
# Oct 21 2009 at 8:13 AM Rating: Decent
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people who have bought gold, their reasoning is generally because they are casual players and farming enough money or getting a PuG into raids is very difficult for them. It is easier for them to buy the gold from the Chinese and buy that purple from the AH.

Lets not be blinkered here. Blizzard have introduced a free market, yet there are few 'rules' or measures in place to stop botting accounts accruing ridiculous amounts of ore or herbs and selling them on the AH. They are also complicit in some of the high value achievements or items they have introduced into the game. Players who are casual will struggle to accrue 5,000 gold to pay for epic flying or 8,000 gold for a Kirin Tor ring. Although the onus is on players to play fairly, placing these sort of items in the game give people a market to sell too.

Players who have the time to complete enough daily quests and farm enough raw materials to make a healthy profit are catered for quite easily, those who balance game time with a busy family life or studies, have less free time and more open to temptation. The lazy will always take the easy route.
sorry but, correction
# Oct 20 2009 at 8:56 PM Rating: Decent
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"affects" not "effects".

Hacked? No....
# Oct 20 2009 at 8:29 PM Rating: Decent
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As a matter of fact, I know no one that was hacked.

I do, however, know many people that are morons. They don't update their virus protection (if they have any at all). They visit suspect sites. They log in from other computers, not bothering to see the security of the computer. They let others that do not care about security use their computer. Getting "hacked" means someone brute-forced your password. These people didn't get hacked. They gave their info away.
Hacked? No....
# Oct 21 2009 at 8:35 AM Rating: Decent
I know of several including myself.
I have been in the IT industry for probably longer than you been on the planet (since 1970) and I take my systems VERY seriously. So yes, surprised the hell out of me to get kicked in the teeth when I was hacked. Where did the "virus" come from? It was a key-logger included in Adobe's flash player. When Blizzard found out about it, never posted an immediate warning (which would have been helpful). The main virus protection sites didn't seem to care much either on that one as well (no e-mail alerts).

So no, it's just not the PC illiterate that can get hacked.

My personal belief on that issue: Blizzard should have their own check when a person logs in that they are logging from within their IP zone and when it like a Western US server all of the sudden logging in from an IP address in China/Korea... ask for the secondary "safe" word to your account. Not only would this make their customers safer and happier, it would reduce their time and money spent restoring accounts.
Hacked? No....
# Oct 21 2009 at 6:10 PM Rating: Decent
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I have been in the IT industry for probably longer than you been on the planet (since 1970)


You have me by ONE year, then.


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So yes, surprised the hell out of me to get kicked in the teeth when I was hacked. Where did the "virus" come from? It was a key-logger included in Adobe's flash player.


Correct me if I'm misunderstanding something - you're saying ADOBE took your account? That's a pretty big company, and I think they have better things to do than take people's WoW accounts, especially considering the negative publicity that goes along with theft. That doesn't sound right. Or were you downloading Adobe's flash player from a site other than Adobe, and THAT site added the keylogger?

Something sounds fishy there.


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My personal belief on that issue: Blizzard should have their own check when a person logs in that they are logging from within their IP zone and when it like a Western US server all of the sudden logging in from an IP address in China/Korea... ask for the secondary "safe" word to your account.


I'm all for it. It will mainly protect the stupid, something I'm generally not in favor of, but if it will cut down on the various problems facing the game it sounds good to me.
We know already..
# Oct 20 2009 at 4:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Welll... The majority of people who frequent this site are anti-gold buying anyway, so it is mildly pointless. I guess for the 2% of new players we have showing up it's worth it.
Olde News is Olde..
# Oct 20 2009 at 4:26 PM Rating: Decent
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..but reminders are good.

They had a detailed info section about why buying gold is bad for the game in general weeks, or even months ago, but it is good that they take the time to remind players time and time again.
buying gold
# Oct 20 2009 at 4:17 PM Rating: Default
LOL the majority of users in the higher up guilds PRE WRATH bought gold all the time, but since Wrath there really isn't a point due to the badge system being an effective method to farm gold! I know tons of people have done it and the people who tend to get "hacked" are ones who give them their account info for power leveling. Now as for using hacks in the game to get items or gold I don't know fully about that. I mean all the server info is held on blizzards server. So any program made would have to be made by someone who can access the server data for all items. I don't see someone on the 100% user side can develop a program to gain gold.
buying gold
# Oct 21 2009 at 8:40 AM Rating: Good
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darkpoetinc wrote:
I don't see someone on the 100% user side can develop a program to gain gold.


Unfortunately, the only completely secure system is the one that's locked in a room with no doors, cables, or openings. Quantum physicists will tell you that this system is simultaneously there and not there, and that its in-between state is an additional level of security.

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The fact is, there are all kinds of exploits that can happen solely using features as simple as lag. One that many people see every day is riding mounts indoors. (Due to small, regular blips of lag, a mount will sometimes last for up to several seconds after riding into a dismount area like a building, allowing your character to move faster than anyone elses.) These exploits vary in nature and impact. The fact is, performance and security rarely cooperate easily.

When they refer to hacks, part of what they mean are the people who discover one of these loopholes and use programs with effects such as intentional lag, mimicked game client signals, and modifications to their local software to mess around with the client-server communications and allow them to disrupt the game and get some sort of advantage.

The other part are the hacks that occur on players. Viral attacks are one aspect; the focus of this article (using gold sellers or power levellers to "legally" obtain player information) is another.

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I'm impressed with Blizzard. Their approach to these things is one of the more professional I've seen from an MMO provider. People who've been impacted in other MMOs (I recall one incident with FFXI) are aware of how indiscriminate and painful an attack on gold-sellers can be to innocent players who are accidentally included in the counterstrike. While it contains a brief guilt trip (darn it Murky, why do you have to be so cute?) it also tries to combat the problem with simple community awareness. I'd love to see the data from their studies, and how strong the correlation between gold/power-levelling services and account seizure.

Incidentally, I have one of the mobile authenticators. It's a small annoyance (particularly when you're in a dark room, as it's hard to read without direct light), but it also means any keylogger has about 1 minute to get logged into my account before their stolen data is useless. For anyone who is worried about a recent exchange, I'd suggest picking up one of these babies or using the iPhone version if possible. It's a lot less headache than trying to get back any of your gear.
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