Clarification on Living Elements TransmuteFollow

Here's a blue post from yesterday:



Good to know. I never would have guessed that your location had an impact on the volatiles you got, based on the description.

Edited, Dec 10th 2010 7:38am by PigtailsOfDoom

They got rid of the specializations for leatherworkers and tailors. Alchemists and Engineers (maybe some others) still have it.

Honestly with the removal of the CD on the specialty cloth, there wasn't much of a need for the specializations for tailoring at least. It didn't really do much.

Yeah, that's exactly what I said in my post that you quoted. :-p

In trying this out today, I also discovered that this transmute has a CD. I REALLY wish that the different prof skills would say in the window whether or not they have a CD and how long it is BEFORE you use it. I was buying mats today to use up my Truegold transmute, as they're currently selling for 3k a piece on my server and the mats don't even cost 1k. I figured I'd save myself a bit of gold by buying up a bunch of volatile life and just transmuting it in the different zones and using those, then discovered the 20 hour CD. Now I'm going to have to go back and buy the 10 air and water volatiles so I can make the Truegold bar. I know it's not that big of a deal, as I can always transmute the next ones over the next two days and put them back up on the AH, but it would have been nice to know before hand is all I'm saying.

I did it twice in SW and got no bonus elements - 14 earth one day, 16 water the next. Then I did it in Deepholm and got 15 earth and at least 16 bonus water. I don't know what this means, but I don't intend to do it outside of an elemental plane even if I don't particularly care what I get.

It's not an either/or thing, but it's definitely not *always* either. I have 3 transmute spec alchemists who always transmute in Uldum. I got 16 air and 19 earth at the same time once, but every other time I've only got 14-16 air.

Yeah, either the blue poster was wrong about the transmute specialty always proccing with this, or it's a bug. I always go to Hyjal for mine, since Fire volatiles are selling the best right now, and I've gotten two procs and three that didn't. So location doesn't make a difference as far as the transmute procs are concerned.

Well, glad I read this. Now to find a way to get my lock to and from Uldum quickly each day as air is going for more than 10g more than each of the others on my realm.

Edit: Well, since I'm not ready to level said lock, I did the next best thing and put her hearth back in Dalaran and now use the CoT portal to get to Uldum fairly quick like.

Edited, Dec 24th 2010 8:51am by Poldaran

It was always working bud. The fact that you thought it wasn't working is proof.

Here's the mathematical proof:

RNG


(you know what they say - big moRNG is fickle)

All of the cata transmutes that have a CD are shared with each other. As far as I know this includes the elements, pyrium bar, truegold bar, and shadowspirit diamond. None of the blue gems have a CD.

The shadowspirit diamond does not have any cooldown.

Again, the transmute bonus is random. It doesn't matter what zone you're in. I'm sure we could test it out and someone would eventually get the bonus whilst in Stormwind or Org.

Was on a roll there with the volatile xmute - got three in a row and was beginning to hope that the OP had come true but struck out tonight.

If you get a proc, it is random. So, you can be in Uldum and get 14-16 Air and if it procs you will get 14-16 of anything. I've had exactly that happen, and got Fire. And I too have had procs in SW quite a few times.

However, I don't do these transmutes any longer because they are on the same CD as Truegold, which sells within 24 hours for between 1,000 and 1,200 gold on my server. Last night I got a double proc - three Truegold.

Air sells for 20 to 30 gold on my server, so if I go to Uldum every time and get 16 every time, and if I even forget about the mats cost, that's 480 gold at top price. I won't always get 16 and won't always get 30g, and there is a mats cost. But, to make my point we'll suspend reality for a moment and assume 480g.

10 Air at top price is 300g, 10 Fire at top price is 120g, 10 Water at top price is 150g, 3 Pyrium bars at top price is 36g, for a total of 606g to make one Truegold. One Truegold sold at the lowest price is 1,000g, less 606g, is 394g. Just to give a range, everything at lowest price plus Truegold selling at top price nets me 750g.

What if I proc with the Air? Then I would have procced with the Truegold and 1,000g pure profit is better than 480g pure profit. By the way, getting back to reality, 15 Living Elements on my server go for 150g at lowest price, so my profit on the Living Elements transmute is 330g.

As the saying goes, your mileage may vary depending on your server's economy.


Edited for math deficiency.





Edited, Jan 11th 2011 12:11pm by cynyck