I am currently unsure what I should be doing in preperation for Cata. The main thing I'm wondering is whether I should be stockpiling glyphs and ink of the sea for after launch, or whether I should be unloading right now.
I'm assuming the new herbs will create some new ink, but I don't know how trading inks will work. Right now northrend herbs give Ink of the Sea, which you can trade one to one for any other ink. Right now I figure an average stack of northrend herbs can create about 2 glyphs (on average) at 18-23g a stack or so (recent prices on my server). I figure when Cata hits and the new herbs start hitting the AH they'll be in the hundreds of gold. I'll use them to level, and make the new glyphs I learn post-launch, which I'll sell for a premium, but I don't want to be using those herbs to create everyday glyphs if I can avoid it since they're so expensive.
So the question is, do I go into Cata strong with like 10 of every glyph and even more of the best ones? Or try to sell off right now and ease my way out of the market before the expansion hits. I have no idea how they'll treat our current stockpiles of glyphs, or how Ink of the Sea will continue to work/trade once the patch hits.
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I can only give my personal opinion on this, as I don't have a scribe active at the moment. From what I've seen on my AH toon, glyphs have come down in price significantly again. There are a ton of people posting glyphs at gray prices and severely undercutting. I would avoid selling glyphs right now, even if there aren't any undercutters on a particular glyph.
I think that when Cata hits there is going to be an upsurge in demand again for glyphs considering all the people going to level up new worgen and gobs, so I think it's a good idea to make up a good stockpile for then.
I think that when Cata hits there is going to be an upsurge in demand again for glyphs considering all the people going to level up new worgen and gobs, so I think it's a good idea to make up a good stockpile for then.
I agree, I see a surge coming when Cata hits. I'm going to prepare for it. I read a bit and maybe answered some of my own questions as well.
1) Seems we'll learn glyphs by using Books of Glyph Mastery again. Believe I read 54 new glyphs, we already know most of the glyphs in the game. I'm still trying to figure out if these are the exact same books we have in the game now. Information seems fuzzy from what I got. But to my knowledge there won't be daily research for glyphs, we'll collect books again. Now I checked the AH price for books and of course they shot up to like 100g by the time I looked. I'd pay that in the drop of a hat if I knew for sure they'll roll over into Cata but I have my doubts still.
2) There will be a new ink. It will become the new currency ink. Ink of the Sea won't be a currency anymore, just an ink used in certain glyphs like the others. It's not necessarily terrible for me to stockpile a fair stash of this for the glyphs which use it in the future. The herbs to make them are probably cheaper now then they will be in the future (until Cata herbs dip below the price of LK herbs right now).
So I'll stockpile lots of the good glyphs going forward, a decent stash of all current inks and if I can afford to, books of glyph mastery.
I'm selling glyphs right now since i started again, yesterday 2700 in sales with only 2 cancel/reposts posting 2 of each glyph. I had about 70 sales at roughly 38g average ticket, some as high as 99g (maybe only 3 sales like that) the most closer to 20g range. I won't post below about 18g. It costs alot to make glyphs now, I put my average cost to craft at 15g per glyph and it takes a ludicrous amount of time to manage everything from crafting to posting, milling and buying herbs etc. Still profitable. But somehow still feels "slow" like I missed the boat by a mile in 4.0. I think the Cata surge will be huge, I want to stock up for it.
Edited, Nov 12th 2010 6:26pm by mikelolol
Edited, Nov 12th 2010 6:26pm by mikelolol
1) Seems we'll learn glyphs by using Books of Glyph Mastery again. Believe I read 54 new glyphs, we already know most of the glyphs in the game. I'm still trying to figure out if these are the exact same books we have in the game now. Information seems fuzzy from what I got. But to my knowledge there won't be daily research for glyphs, we'll collect books again. Now I checked the AH price for books and of course they shot up to like 100g by the time I looked. I'd pay that in the drop of a hat if I knew for sure they'll roll over into Cata but I have my doubts still.
2) There will be a new ink. It will become the new currency ink. Ink of the Sea won't be a currency anymore, just an ink used in certain glyphs like the others. It's not necessarily terrible for me to stockpile a fair stash of this for the glyphs which use it in the future. The herbs to make them are probably cheaper now then they will be in the future (until Cata herbs dip below the price of LK herbs right now).
So I'll stockpile lots of the good glyphs going forward, a decent stash of all current inks and if I can afford to, books of glyph mastery.
I'm selling glyphs right now since i started again, yesterday 2700 in sales with only 2 cancel/reposts posting 2 of each glyph. I had about 70 sales at roughly 38g average ticket, some as high as 99g (maybe only 3 sales like that) the most closer to 20g range. I won't post below about 18g. It costs alot to make glyphs now, I put my average cost to craft at 15g per glyph and it takes a ludicrous amount of time to manage everything from crafting to posting, milling and buying herbs etc. Still profitable. But somehow still feels "slow" like I missed the boat by a mile in 4.0. I think the Cata surge will be huge, I want to stock up for it.
Edited, Nov 12th 2010 6:26pm by mikelolol
Edited, Nov 12th 2010 6:26pm by mikelolol
Your server is lucky then. Proudmoore is absolutely horrid for the glyph market right now, at least on the Horde side. It does seem to be a bit harder to make good money on a high population server. There's too much competition. I'm not doing too bad right now, but I'm still just about breaking even on my AH toon between selling stuff and buying more low priced stuff to sell for higher prices. Of course that's partially due to me buying way too much Felweed at a low price last week. I've only managed to sell a stack or two of them so far. I didn't stop to think about how that's the easiest herb to get while PL'ing through herbalism.
Yeah my server is medium pop, Firetree on Horde. Horde dominate that server though, it might be medium pop but I bet 85% of the population is on Horde. Competition has been driving me a bit nuts the past 2 days, sales are slow, undercutters are lightning fast. Its so demoralizing to spend an hour cancel/reposting auctions and immediately be undercut on 90% of them by 2-3 people posting 2-3 of each glyph. But somehow the sales are still squeaking through and I'm still earning way better gold/hr then grinding dailies or something so I keep it up (slowly). About 1, maybe 2 cancel/repost cycles a day is all I can really handle anymore. Maybe if I have the day off and sales are going great I MIGHT do 3 but honestly its soul destroying stuff.
Wouldn't want to try selling on a huge server like Tich or Malganis, I've tried on alts but there is so much competition. You need to either play alot or try things like market crashes. Which can be very effective but those servers have alot of veterans who'll just wait you out and make you do all the work crashing the market for a few days for minimal gold. Then when they come back they'll repost again.
Wouldn't want to try selling on a huge server like Tich or Malganis, I've tried on alts but there is so much competition. You need to either play alot or try things like market crashes. Which can be very effective but those servers have alot of veterans who'll just wait you out and make you do all the work crashing the market for a few days for minimal gold. Then when they come back they'll repost again.
Yeah, I don't have the patience for that lol. That's why I stay away from the glyph market. I definitely admire those who have the patience for it, but I just don't.
Haha I get pretty frustrated at times, trust me I'm not very patient myself. But collecting mailboxes full of gold is addictive =)
On the one hand, it was pretty nice making the 7k that I made in the few days after the patch hit. I didn't go crazy posting tons of glyphs, but I had a pretty good idea which ones would be hot and stuck with those. Unfortunately, lately it's been crazy on my realms with the undercutters also. I have a level 48 who is just skilling up inscription and just trying to sell what I make at each level is next to impossible. I finally cut them down to around 10g, way way low and one of the undercutters bought them up. At least I made my money, but I feel bad for those who can't afford 75g for a standard low level glyph.
On one of my realms, I have a low level druid who hasn't been able to find a usable glyph for less than 75g. Any spells that I have that have a glyph out there, ie Mangle, Tigers Fury, are way overpriced. And forget getting a minor glyph-those are all around 100g. Really? I mean I probably *could* afford if I thought I really needed it, but I don't, and I'm just not going to pay that kind of cost. I'll be leveling a new scribe on that realm in order to get many of the glyphs I'll use.
Speaking of inscription in Cataclysm-I thought I had read that one of the things that Scribes would be making is Relics, but it seems most of the ones listed on Wowhead are all BoP. That seems pointless, especially since the 2 Scribes I have right now are Rogues. I guess I'll have to make sure that whichever new alt I roll as a Scribe will be someone who can use a Relic.
On one of my realms, I have a low level druid who hasn't been able to find a usable glyph for less than 75g. Any spells that I have that have a glyph out there, ie Mangle, Tigers Fury, are way overpriced. And forget getting a minor glyph-those are all around 100g. Really? I mean I probably *could* afford if I thought I really needed it, but I don't, and I'm just not going to pay that kind of cost. I'll be leveling a new scribe on that realm in order to get many of the glyphs I'll use.
Speaking of inscription in Cataclysm-I thought I had read that one of the things that Scribes would be making is Relics, but it seems most of the ones listed on Wowhead are all BoP. That seems pointless, especially since the 2 Scribes I have right now are Rogues. I guess I'll have to make sure that whichever new alt I roll as a Scribe will be someone who can use a Relic.
mikelolol wrote:
Its so demoralizing to spend an hour cancel/reposting auctions and immediately be undercut on 90% of them by 2-3 people posting 2-3 of each glyph.
have you tried zeroauctions?
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