auction (-ator VS. -eer VS. -lite)Follow

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just started back last night and picked up auctionlite. server's all kinda messed up with bars going for more than the ores. i kinda miss the enhtooltips and little things like the way auctioneer would suggest the price you're currently listing at for additional auctions. i think i'll give auctionator a day or two and if it doesn't set my *** on fire i'll go back to auctioneer. hopefully it hasn't changed much since may >.>

which one do you guys use? any good how-to links? i haven't been able to find much of anything on auctionlite.

I use Auctioneer and Auctionator at the same time.

Personally I use Auctioneer for scanning data. And I like how it can show things as a % of market value. I use it for a few things actually. I keep a huge stock of items in my bank alts gbank. After a fresh scan I go mouseover the items in the gbank and see what is worth selling, and what is worth storing for another day.

I use Auctionator for fast posting of auctions, for cancelling auctions. Auctionator is like my best friend for selling glyphs. I have like 400 up at a time. Competitors are ruthless undercutters. I love how I can scan all my auctions with this tool, see which ones I got recently undercut on, then have the option to cancel and repost those.


I am in the process of moving from Auctionater to QuickAuctions3. It is much more complex to configure. But I think it's more powerful in the long run. Oh and I almost forgot, I generally use Auctionator for buying as well.

Haven't tried AuctionLite myself.

That seems easy enough. Question is, what do you mean by "de with automation"?? If there is a better way than what I've been doing, I'd love to hear it.

Enchantrix has an automation option in its config. Instead of you clicking DE, then the item to disenchant, enchantrix will go through all disenchantable items in your inventory and pop up a little dialog asking if you want to DE them. It'll also loot the materials after it's done.

Wow, thanks. That's so awesome, its not even funny.

Although I never had to click DE then item, I binded DEing to a key. :P

Actually, I recently switched from Auctioneer to AuctionLite. I haven't used Auctionator, but AuctionLite is pretty good- I can do scans relatively quickly, and it will post auctions at a 5% discount. It's nowhere near as robust as Auctioneer, but I found dropping Auctioneer and Gatherer for addons that take up a smaller footprint has actually increased my system's performance a bit (I dropped Gatherer for GatherMate).

Edit: AuctionLite also lists vendor prices for items as well, which is helpful when determining what to vendor versus what to throw away.

Edited, Jan 15th 2010 2:23pm by Wondroustremor

That DE option sounds pretty good. I'm trying to cover too many markets at the moment though and raise capital to level a whole pile of transmute masters.

Right now I'm running Auctioneer, Auctionator and QuickAuctions3. I just started switching my glyph business to QA for automated posting and cancelling (ie: one click, instead of manually dragging and dropping 250 glyphs onto the post window for each cancel/post cycle.

Once I figured out how to setup a massive group for Glyphs, I set some simple rules. Don't post lower then a certain amount. I figure it costs me 3.5g to make a glyph on average, so don't post lower then 3.89 or so. Otherwise undercut by a tiny amount. If people are posting below 3.89 I post at my fallback price. For now it's 9.31. I know other people run the 50g fallback but I'm trying to move volume for a while. I'll toy with all these prices. Just posting to say QA is nice, requires a bit of setup like Auctioneer does but seems good at what it does. The glyph market is ruthless on my server so I need these kind of advantages or I go insane and/or broke trying to keep up with the undercutters. Now I guess you could call me one as well.

For each item it asks you about disenchanting, you can click Yes, No, or Ignore. If you click Ignore, it puts that item on an ignore list and wont ask you about it again.

I just started running QuickAuctions3, Auctionator and BeanCounter/Enchantrix and my god. The tools in your hands for mass AH'ing is unbelievable.

I've made just shy of 3k over a day in glyphs because of it.

Once your learn to set up your QA the right way you're gonna be surprised at how easy the AH becomes to make money.

I have used all three, to an extent.

First was auctionlite. I liked this because it was light weight and didn't have many fancy gizmos so it so it was easy to use. The only problem I found after a while when I got into posting multiples of the same item at a time is that, unless I failed to see something, there is no simple way to post lets say 10 auctions of a stack of 1 each with the click of 1 button. When I started posting glyphs and flasks I decided I needed a better AH tool.

Next, since it had the most dl's on curse, I got auctioneer. Now, after logging in and seeing all these different tabs with searches and stuff, I couldn't even figure out how to post a simple auction or search for a simple item using this addon. To me there was way too much stuff going on, pages of criteria to look through. Now, to people who know how to use it, I'm sure it's an amazing tool, but after 30 minutes of trying to config and figure stuff out. It just wasn't worth it to me.

So lastly, I tried auctionator. I really like this addon. The tabs are simple to use and follow along, you can easy post multiples of the same item. Very each to configure how much you want to undercut lowest price at. The buy tab is very useful in showing the price per item to know which you should buy. For someone who isn't constantly posting auctions and only really needs to use it for glyphs or flasks and the occasional gem this addon is very good.

I used to use Auctionator, but when I had to reinstall I went with Auctioneer. Seems I have much fewer relistings with Auctioneer.

I use Auctioneer for the following.

In your Auction window, on the Browse tab, click the ">>" button up top. This will fast scan the entire AH, provided your pc has enough horsepower to handle it without disconnecting.

When it finishes (the ">" button shows back up, click the Search tab on the bottom. Expand out "Searchers" on the left. Select Disenchant.

In the Window, set your Min Discount to 50%.
Check Allow Bids, Allow Buyouts, Enable Individual maximum price.
Put 20g as the Maximum Price for Disenchant.
I set 2g as my Minimum profit.
If you are lower in your enchanting level, put a check in "use custom levels" to limit your enchanting skill setting, and don't put a minimum profit.
Your Price Valuation Method should be "Enchantrix".
Put a check in "Subtract auction fees".

The above are some suggested values to start with. You customize them to what you want, once you are familiar with it.

Now click the Search button. If a list of items shows up, these are the items you will buy. Press Ctrl-Shift-Alt to channge the Purchase button to Purchase All and click it.

Now each item will pop up a confirmation box where you will click "Yes".
In the ah window, you will see Pending Scans counting down. Let it go to Zero.

In chat, put "/enchantrix config" to pop up its config window. Select Automation on the left. In the window, check "Watch bags for disenchantable Items - USE WITH CARE". Put a check in Auto Disenchant rare (blue) items. I would Uncheck "Auto Disenchant epic".

When enchantrix sees a disenchantable item in your bag, it will let you de it, cancel, or put it on an ignore list. Obviously, you will put your own gear on the ignore list if it pops up.

Go to the mailbox and use something like "Postal" or "MailGet" Addon to get all your mail. As each disenchantable item comes in, click yes to disenchant.

Sell mats on AH with the Appraiser tab. I use price matching and batch posting, so I can post all my auctions with one click. Note that I've been doing it a long time and don't really even watch what I pay or sell for. You may want to pay a little closer attention at first.

Other things to note:
I recommend doing your buying on the AH twice a day if possible. Always do the fast scan first.

As you do your scans, you are building up a pricing history. You may want to wait for a few days worth of scans before you start buying (unless you are anxious to get started and a couple hundred gold doesn't bother you).

It is normal to be outbid on many auctions. That's ok. When you do win a bid, you may be making a good profit.

The mailbox will only hold so much. If your minimap has an envelope icon after you close the mailbox, wait a while for it to get the mail in it, then click the mailbox again.

If you like searching for disenchantable items, check out the Snatch search. I also have a snatch list of many tradegoods like popular gems, with a percent set at 25%. If someone is selling their popular tradegoods at 25% of value, I'll probably buy it and put it back up on the ah at a higher price.

Remember, it takes money to make money. I have no problem at all plunking down 500g during a buying session. I'll either get something I can de, or I'll lose the bid and get my money back. I may have 3k or more worth of items up for auction at any time. I actually am disappointed when things are a bit slow and my AH items falls below 1k (oh yeah, great addon called "Auction Profit" adds up your items currently up for auction).

You have to click yes on each item as the popup presents itself. You can't fully automate things, since that would be against Blizzard's TOS.

I do not buy armor or weapoons for resale. Any of those items coming into my bags are for disenchant. Don't get sucked into investing allot on an item, trying to make a killing on resale. Leave that to those who enjoy playing that market.

If you find you enjoy this, and want to do more of it, consider that I made a dk enchanter on the opposite faction and actually do this on both sides, doubling my profit. Periodically I'll enlist my son's account and the neutral AH to move money over to my main faction.

Edited, May 6th 2010 11:23am by dadanox