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#1 Jan 09 2010 at 1:32 PM Rating: Decent
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just started back last night and picked up auctionlite. server's all kinda messed up with bars going for more than the ores. i kinda miss the enhtooltips and little things like the way auctioneer would suggest the price you're currently listing at for additional auctions. i think i'll give auctionator a day or two and if it doesn't set my **** on fire i'll go back to auctioneer. hopefully it hasn't changed much since may >.>

which one do you guys use? any good how-to links? i haven't been able to find much of anything on auctionlite.
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#2 Jan 09 2010 at 2:02 PM Rating: Decent
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I use both, but lean more towards auctionator lately. I'm not good at describing things, all I can say is just try it, you'll probably like it.

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I mean I use Auctionator and Auctioneer. I, too, have a paucity of information on Auctionlite.

Edited, Jan 9th 2010 3:10pm by ShadorVIII
#3 Jan 09 2010 at 5:57 PM Rating: Good
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I use Auctioneer and Auctionator at the same time.

Personally I use Auctioneer for scanning data. And I like how it can show things as a % of market value. I use it for a few things actually. I keep a huge stock of items in my bank alts gbank. After a fresh scan I go mouseover the items in the gbank and see what is worth selling, and what is worth storing for another day.

I use Auctionator for fast posting of auctions, for cancelling auctions. Auctionator is like my best friend for selling glyphs. I have like 400 up at a time. Competitors are ruthless undercutters. I love how I can scan all my auctions with this tool, see which ones I got recently undercut on, then have the option to cancel and repost those.


I am in the process of moving from Auctionater to QuickAuctions3. It is much more complex to configure. But I think it's more powerful in the long run. Oh and I almost forgot, I generally use Auctionator for buying as well.

Haven't tried AuctionLite myself.
#4 Jan 11 2010 at 6:18 AM Rating: Excellent
It depends on what you want to do with it.

I bid on over 500 items per day. I use automated searches by criteria I set, bulk buying and disenchanting. I do "purchase all" as fast as I can click the "yes" button, get all mail, de with automation and bulk post the mats. For this, I use Auctioneer.

Edited, Jan 11th 2010 7:31am by dadanox
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#5 Jan 12 2010 at 10:32 AM Rating: Decent
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The Honorable dadanox wrote:
It depends on what you want to do with it.

I bid on over 500 items per day. I use automated searches by criteria I set, bulk buying and disenchanting. I do "purchase all" as fast as I can click the "yes" button, get all mail, de with automation and bulk post the mats. For this, I use Auctioneer.

Edited, Jan 11th 2010 7:31am by dadanox


That seems easy enough. Question is, what do you mean by "de with automation"?? If there is a better way than what I've been doing, I'd love to hear it.
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#6 Jan 12 2010 at 12:47 PM Rating: Good
I use auctionator for agressive gem selling.

Post, wait, profit, cancel, post, wait, profit and cancel.
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#7 Jan 12 2010 at 5:01 PM Rating: Good
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baveux wrote:
That seems easy enough. Question is, what do you mean by "de with automation"?? If there is a better way than what I've been doing, I'd love to hear it.

Enchantrix has an automation option in its config. Instead of you clicking DE, then the item to disenchant, enchantrix will go through all disenchantable items in your inventory and pop up a little dialog asking if you want to DE them. It'll also loot the materials after it's done.
#8 Jan 13 2010 at 12:35 AM Rating: Decent
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i really like that auctionator buy tab. i can't live without those huge tooltips that confuse the **** out of me though.
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#9 Jan 13 2010 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Majivo wrote:
baveux wrote:
That seems easy enough. Question is, what do you mean by "de with automation"?? If there is a better way than what I've been doing, I'd love to hear it.

Enchantrix has an automation option in its config. Instead of you clicking DE, then the item to disenchant, enchantrix will go through all disenchantable items in your inventory and pop up a little dialog asking if you want to DE them. It'll also loot the materials after it's done.


Wow, thanks. That's so awesome, its not even funny.

Although I never had to click DE then item, I binded DEing to a key. :P
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#10 Jan 14 2010 at 1:51 AM Rating: Decent
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So few replies i am surprised at that.

I only use the auctioneer suite and it does all i ask of it but did wonder about those others , it looks like i will stick to what i know does all the jobs i need.
#11 Jan 15 2010 at 12:14 PM Rating: Good
Actually, I recently switched from Auctioneer to AuctionLite. I haven't used Auctionator, but AuctionLite is pretty good- I can do scans relatively quickly, and it will post auctions at a 5% discount. It's nowhere near as robust as Auctioneer, but I found dropping Auctioneer and Gatherer for addons that take up a smaller footprint has actually increased my system's performance a bit (I dropped Gatherer for GatherMate).

Edit: AuctionLite also lists vendor prices for items as well, which is helpful when determining what to vendor versus what to throw away.

Edited, Jan 15th 2010 2:23pm by Wondroustremor
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#12 Jan 15 2010 at 12:53 PM Rating: Good
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Enchantrix has an automation option in its config. Instead of you clicking DE, then the item to disenchant, enchantrix will go through all disenchantable items in your inventory and pop up a little dialog asking if you want to DE them. It'll also loot the materials after it's done.


Seriously?

My life just got even easier.
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#13 Jan 15 2010 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
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That DE option sounds pretty good. I'm trying to cover too many markets at the moment though and raise capital to level a whole pile of transmute masters.

Right now I'm running Auctioneer, Auctionator and QuickAuctions3. I just started switching my glyph business to QA for automated posting and cancelling (ie: one click, instead of manually dragging and dropping 250 glyphs onto the post window for each cancel/post cycle.

Once I figured out how to setup a massive group for Glyphs, I set some simple rules. Don't post lower then a certain amount. I figure it costs me 3.5g to make a glyph on average, so don't post lower then 3.89 or so. Otherwise undercut by a tiny amount. If people are posting below 3.89 I post at my fallback price. For now it's 9.31. I know other people run the 50g fallback but I'm trying to move volume for a while. I'll toy with all these prices. Just posting to say QA is nice, requires a bit of setup like Auctioneer does but seems good at what it does. The glyph market is ruthless on my server so I need these kind of advantages or I go insane and/or broke trying to keep up with the undercutters. Now I guess you could call me one as well.
#14 Jan 20 2010 at 1:45 PM Rating: Good
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Enchantrix has an automation option in its config. Instead of you clicking DE, then the item to disenchant, enchantrix will go through all disenchantable items in your inventory and pop up a little dialog asking if you want to DE them. It'll also loot the materials after it's done.


Will it D/E the gears you have in your inventory (i.e.: off spec epics) or can you set it to not D/e epics? I would hate to lose my gear with that option selected.
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#15 Jan 21 2010 at 6:08 AM Rating: Good
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Will it D/E the gears you have in your inventory (i.e.: off spec epics) or can you set it to not D/e epics? I would hate to lose my gear with that option selected.


For each item it asks you about disenchanting, you can click Yes, No, or Ignore. If you click Ignore, it puts that item on an ignore list and wont ask you about it again.
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#17 Jan 22 2010 at 10:15 PM Rating: Decent
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I tried it out, its an awesome tool.

Now I need to take a look at QuickAuctions 3. That sounds like an awesome way to sell my cut gems, instead of checking prices on each one and posting X3 at a slightly undercut price.

So much awesome advice. Thanks guys!
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#18 Jan 23 2010 at 11:02 AM Rating: Good
I just started running QuickAuctions3, Auctionator and BeanCounter/Enchantrix and my god. The tools in your hands for mass AH'ing is unbelievable.

I've made just shy of 3k over a day in glyphs because of it.

Once your learn to set up your QA the right way you're gonna be surprised at how easy the AH becomes to make money.
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#19 Jan 24 2010 at 12:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I've been running QA3 for about a week now with my Glyphs. I agree Arex, it is a very powerful tool.

If you haven't seen this guide yet, check it out - http://www.ah-whoring.com/2009/10/30/video-guide-to-kevmars-ktq/


That is the setup I'm using now. KTQ/Altoholic for managing inventory and recrafting any glyphs that sold. QuickAuctions groups for mass posting, cancelling and reposting. I don't think he touches on QA in the video, but it's about how to setup KTQ. The basic idea is start with a small stack of every single glyph you can make. Say, a 2 stack. Then I have the BonusQueue set to 3, meaning if my stock of 2 glyphs sells out for say, Glyph of Sap, it will create 2+3 next time. Now I am working my way up to a 5 stack of every glyph I know, with a bonusqueue of 3.

I have a great setup now. I've dual boxed for a while with 2 accounts. On my main account is the 80 priest/scribe guild master of an alt bank. Only my alts are allowed in. On the 2nd account are 3 Glyph posting alts, all with 4x32 slot inscription bags. One covers DK/Druid/Hunter/Mage, one covers Pally/Priest/Rogue, the other covers Sham/Warrior/Warlock. I login, cancel/repost all auctions on the 3 first. Then update synch altoholic data to the priest. Then using KTQ, build a list of glyphs that sold and need to be recrafted. It was a big setup filled with headaches, I almost gave up in frustration, but I'm glad I have it going now. I am like a glyph printing factory lol.

I have expanded into the card market, selling all inks, runescrolls of fort, snowfall ink, weapon and armor vellums and pet rename certificates and the epic off hands, along with every single glyph. I have QA groups for all these major categories with minimum prices set.

Final tip - Buy herbs on the weekend, you hit the jackpot. Prices on Adder's are always around 16-18g on my server on the weekdays. But saturday/sunday prices drop like crazy, down to 10g/stack. I dropped thousands this weekend, restocking buying ALL cheap herbs on the server, I filled 4 bank tabs, spent an hour milling and making inks, then refilled another 2 at these prices.
#20 Jan 24 2010 at 1:26 PM Rating: Good
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I have used all three, to an extent.

First was auctionlite. I liked this because it was light weight and didn't have many fancy gizmos so it so it was easy to use. The only problem I found after a while when I got into posting multiples of the same item at a time is that, unless I failed to see something, there is no simple way to post lets say 10 auctions of a stack of 1 each with the click of 1 button. When I started posting glyphs and flasks I decided I needed a better AH tool.

Next, since it had the most dl's on curse, I got auctioneer. Now, after logging in and seeing all these different tabs with searches and stuff, I couldn't even figure out how to post a simple auction or search for a simple item using this addon. To me there was way too much stuff going on, pages of criteria to look through. Now, to people who know how to use it, I'm sure it's an amazing tool, but after 30 minutes of trying to config and figure stuff out. It just wasn't worth it to me.

So lastly, I tried auctionator. I really like this addon. The tabs are simple to use and follow along, you can easy post multiples of the same item. Very each to configure how much you want to undercut lowest price at. The buy tab is very useful in showing the price per item to know which you should buy. For someone who isn't constantly posting auctions and only really needs to use it for glyphs or flasks and the occasional gem this addon is very good.
#21 Jan 26 2010 at 2:38 PM Rating: Good
Mike, I've got a farmer for me on my server. I send him an imail in game and then he cods me what I need in the next few days.

But as for buying on the weekends. This is when I destroy the gem market lol. I'll drop 5-10k gold on gems as my stock and then just sell a majority of them on Tuesdays.

I'm up to about 450 glyphs per session on the AH.

I need to pick up my glyph books.
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#22 Mar 12 2010 at 9:55 PM Rating: Good
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I used to use Auctionator, but when I had to reinstall I went with Auctioneer. Seems I have much fewer relistings with Auctioneer.
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#23 Apr 26 2010 at 5:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, i am using auctioneer, and auctionator... how do i make it so that i will automatically buy the green items that would be best to de?
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#24 May 06 2010 at 4:44 AM Rating: Excellent
Keseneth wrote:
Ok, i am using auctioneer, and auctionator... how do i make it so that i will automatically buy the green items that would be best to de?


I use Auctioneer for the following.

In your Auction window, on the Browse tab, click the ">>" button up top. This will fast scan the entire AH, provided your pc has enough horsepower to handle it without disconnecting.

When it finishes (the ">" button shows back up, click the Search tab on the bottom. Expand out "Searchers" on the left. Select Disenchant.

In the Window, set your Min Discount to 50%.
Check Allow Bids, Allow Buyouts, Enable Individual maximum price.
Put 20g as the Maximum Price for Disenchant.
I set 2g as my Minimum profit.
If you are lower in your enchanting level, put a check in "use custom levels" to limit your enchanting skill setting, and don't put a minimum profit.
Your Price Valuation Method should be "Enchantrix".
Put a check in "Subtract auction fees".

The above are some suggested values to start with. You customize them to what you want, once you are familiar with it.

Now click the Search button. If a list of items shows up, these are the items you will buy. Press Ctrl-Shift-Alt to channge the Purchase button to Purchase All and click it.

Now each item will pop up a confirmation box where you will click "Yes".
In the ah window, you will see Pending Scans counting down. Let it go to Zero.

In chat, put "/enchantrix config" to pop up its config window. Select Automation on the left. In the window, check "Watch bags for disenchantable Items - USE WITH CARE". Put a check in Auto Disenchant rare (blue) items. I would Uncheck "Auto Disenchant epic".

When enchantrix sees a disenchantable item in your bag, it will let you de it, cancel, or put it on an ignore list. Obviously, you will put your own gear on the ignore list if it pops up.

Go to the mailbox and use something like "Postal" or "MailGet" Addon to get all your mail. As each disenchantable item comes in, click yes to disenchant.

Sell mats on AH with the Appraiser tab. I use price matching and batch posting, so I can post all my auctions with one click. Note that I've been doing it a long time and don't really even watch what I pay or sell for. You may want to pay a little closer attention at first.

Other things to note:
I recommend doing your buying on the AH twice a day if possible. Always do the fast scan first.

As you do your scans, you are building up a pricing history. You may want to wait for a few days worth of scans before you start buying (unless you are anxious to get started and a couple hundred gold doesn't bother you).

It is normal to be outbid on many auctions. That's ok. When you do win a bid, you may be making a good profit.

The mailbox will only hold so much. If your minimap has an envelope icon after you close the mailbox, wait a while for it to get the mail in it, then click the mailbox again.

If you like searching for disenchantable items, check out the Snatch search. I also have a snatch list of many tradegoods like popular gems, with a percent set at 25%. If someone is selling their popular tradegoods at 25% of value, I'll probably buy it and put it back up on the ah at a higher price.

Remember, it takes money to make money. I have no problem at all plunking down 500g during a buying session. I'll either get something I can de, or I'll lose the bid and get my money back. I may have 3k or more worth of items up for auction at any time. I actually am disappointed when things are a bit slow and my AH items falls below 1k (oh yeah, great addon called "Auction Profit" adds up your items currently up for auction).

You have to click yes on each item as the popup presents itself. You can't fully automate things, since that would be against Blizzard's TOS.

I do not buy armor or weapoons for resale. Any of those items coming into my bags are for disenchant. Don't get sucked into investing allot on an item, trying to make a killing on resale. Leave that to those who enjoy playing that market.

If you find you enjoy this, and want to do more of it, consider that I made a dk enchanter on the opposite faction and actually do this on both sides, doubling my profit. Periodically I'll enlist my son's account and the neutral AH to move money over to my main faction.

Edited, May 6th 2010 11:23am by dadanox
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#27 Jun 13 2010 at 6:21 AM Rating: Good
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Anyways here's a pretty good guide on dominating the AH


You're kidding, right? From what I see, it's a guide for a new level 4 character who just stumbled into the AH and doesn't know what it is. That has its place, but I wouldn't have used the term "dominating". Maybe I missed something?

edit: Ah, ok. What I missed was that traffic to your beginner's guide ultimately moves you toward the for sale leveling guides. I get it.

Edited, Jun 13th 2010 8:27am by dadanox
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