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#1 Oct 13 2009 at 2:44 PM Rating: Default
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I have noticed something rather odd on the AH the last 5 months or so
and I am scratching my head trying to figure it out.

Obsolete* JC recipes for BC cuts are still being listed on the AH for
what I consider to be high prices. They do not sell. I have seen the
same recipes/sellers listed over and over for the what seems like
forever. If this was one stubborn seller I could understand but
its all of them! Any idea as to why ?

*All LK trainer cuts for common gems are as good or better than their
BC equivalent as far as I can determine.
#2 Oct 13 2009 at 3:06 PM Rating: Decent
They're probably hoping that someone out there is a collector of recipes and will buy them. Or someone out there is just dumb and will buy them regardless.
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#3 Oct 14 2009 at 12:28 AM Rating: Default
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PigtailsOfDoom the Eccentric wrote:
They're probably hoping that someone out there is a collector of recipes and will buy them. Or someone out there is just dumb and will buy them regardless.


I understand the collector mentality since I am one :). But these folks are in Lala land. If I were
seriously collecting these I might drop 40-50 gold at most not the 500-700 they are asking for.
Rather odd imo.

Edited, Oct 14th 2009 2:29am by JDLKY
#4 Oct 14 2009 at 3:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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PigtailsOfDoom the Eccentric wrote:
They're probably hoping that someone out there is a collector of recipes and will buy them. Or someone out there is just dumb and will buy them regardless.


Could also be folks using an AH pricing mod that hasn't been told that the item is obsolete.
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#5 Oct 14 2009 at 10:24 AM Rating: Good
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I think he's either stupid or trying to take advantage of the stupid.

Think about it - Only an idiot would try to do it. It's very unlikely to sell.

Or - Someone who realizes that it will cost some very tiny amount per AH sale to list the item. If one person buys it, eventually, it'll be a massive homerun. (Almost like terrorist attacks - we stop them every day/week, but it only takes 1 to get through to make a massive problem.)


I tried a similar thing with the twink gear you can get out of SFK. I had 2 blues (Not the sword) that I put up on the AH for about 1 month each. Every day just relisting them. One of them was eventually bought for about 200g (which wasn't too bad). The other was never bought and I ended up giving it to a guildie for his twink.
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#6 Oct 14 2009 at 3:38 PM Rating: Good
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JDLKY wrote:
PigtailsOfDoom the Eccentric wrote:
They're probably hoping that someone out there is a collector of recipes and will buy them. Or someone out there is just dumb and will buy them regardless.


I understand the collector mentality since I am one :). But these folks are in Lala land. If I were
seriously collecting these I might drop 40-50 gold at most not the 500-700 they are asking for.
Rather odd imo.

Edited, Oct 14th 2009 2:29am by JDLKY


As a collector I could easily see paying very high prices for a recipe, I collect enchanting rather then JC recipes. Even with the different type the mentalitity is the same, I have plenty of money and the only way to get these world drop recipes is to buy them off the AH since it is simply impossible to farm them. I mean I've layed down several hundreds of gold for recipes I know will never be used.
#7 Oct 14 2009 at 4:06 PM Rating: Default
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Twirdman wrote:
JDLKY wrote:
PigtailsOfDoom the Eccentric wrote:
They're probably hoping that someone out there is a collector of recipes and will buy them. Or someone out there is just dumb and will buy them regardless.


I understand the collector mentality since I am one :). But these folks are in Lala land. If I were
seriously collecting these I might drop 40-50 gold at most, not the 500-700 they are asking for.
Rather odd imo.

Edited, Oct 14th 2009 2:29am by JDLKY


As a collector I could easily see paying very high prices for a recipe, I collect enchanting rather then JC recipes. Even with the different type the mentalitity is the same, I have plenty of money and the only way to get these world drop recipes is to buy them off the AH since it is simply impossible to farm them. I mean I've layed down several hundreds of gold for recipes I know will never be used.


On enchanting I totally agree. As a matter of fact I do the same. But enchanting offers the possibility
of use. For example I recently bought Crusader and Icy for my Chanter even though all of my active toons
are either 80 or close to it. But I have guildies who can benefit from these 2, and some day I will raise
up a Pally (hopefully before they get nerfed). Heck I could offer scrolls of these for sale assuming I
had the mats. But none of these really apply to the stupid TBC JC recipes since they have no realistic
chance of ever being used! :) And fwiw the deposits on failed AH listings add up fast and on BC and LK
items are not insignificant after a month or two of being listed and not selling (imho).
#8 Oct 14 2009 at 6:36 PM Rating: Good
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JDLKY wrote:
Twirdman wrote:
JDLKY wrote:
PigtailsOfDoom the Eccentric wrote:
They're probably hoping that someone out there is a collector of recipes and will buy them. Or someone out there is just dumb and will buy them regardless.


I understand the collector mentality since I am one :). But these folks are in Lala land. If I were
seriously collecting these I might drop 40-50 gold at most, not the 500-700 they are asking for.
Rather odd imo.

Edited, Oct 14th 2009 2:29am by JDLKY


As a collector I could easily see paying very high prices for a recipe, I collect enchanting rather then JC recipes. Even with the different type the mentalitity is the same, I have plenty of money and the only way to get these world drop recipes is to buy them off the AH since it is simply impossible to farm them. I mean I've layed down several hundreds of gold for recipes I know will never be used.


On enchanting I totally agree. As a matter of fact I do the same. But enchanting offers the possibility
of use. For example I recently bought Crusader and Icy for my Chanter even though all of my active toons
are either 80 or close to it. But I have guildies who can benefit from these 2, and some day I will raise
up a Pally (hopefully before they get nerfed). Heck I could offer scrolls of these for sale assuming I
had the mats. But none of these really apply to the stupid TBC JC recipes since they have no realistic
chance of ever being used! :) And fwiw the deposits on failed AH listings add up fast and on BC and LK
items are not insignificant after a month or two of being listed and not selling (imho).

I'm not even talking about enchants that have a chance of being useful. Most of the world drop enchants I can get now I know if I get them they will be completely useless and I will never find a purpose for them.

For instance I need riding skill for gloves and major resiliance for chest. If those two were to ever show up on the AH I could see my self paying 1kg or more. I will never need them since even for twinks they are weak enchants.
#9 Oct 14 2009 at 9:24 PM Rating: Default
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Think about it - Only an idiot would try to do it. It's very unlikely to sell.


Cost to list is only a few silver so why not is probably the attitude.

Among the sellers that know that these recipes aren't worth **** anymore, I think you've got several mentalities going -

1) Trying to snag collectors (noted)
2) Hoping to snag uninformed (aka suckers, thus noted)
3) Some of those recipes are bridge recipes, thus needed by leveling JCers
4) Hoping to get JCers that want to supply alts but don't want to use Northrend gems (albeit, they're cheap enough that I'd use them personally but that's just me)

I do confess that the persistence of these people is surprising though - even raid grade and rare recipes (JW ones at least) are selling cheaper - one would think that these people would have given up by now and just dumped them as personally, I'd happily collect the old recipes for under 50g each but no way am I paying first month release prices for them now a days.
#10 Oct 20 2009 at 12:15 PM Rating: Decent
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There is one guy on my server that constantly puts recipes up for amazing amounts of gold , even the easily brought from vendors ( if you can be bothered to find them ) and i do mean crazy gold , buy for 1g or less and his price is always at least 50g and if he buys from AH the price rockets , i make a point of a short flight to one or two places and usually fill my bags with the different recipes , and even if i put them up for as low as 10g each they always sell within a few hours , not sure how much gold he makes from his sales but i know i can easily make 200g by undercutting him for 30 minutes of my time.

He does not just buy up any cheap recipe though its lots of armour and weapons and all i have to do is check the 999%+ above normal prices and his name is always there. I guess he makes enough gold but it is too darn reliant on some fool buying at sky high prices , i would rather sell faster and cheaper as its easy enough to make serious amounts of gold anyway.

#11 Oct 26 2009 at 10:40 AM Rating: Good
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rusttle wrote:
2) Hoping to snag uninformed (aka suckers, thus noted)


Most likely this. They probably hope that the potential sucker sees the blue or purple text of the recipe and the price and assumes it's for a WotLK cut.
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