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#1 May 08 2009 at 12:31 PM Rating: Decent
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My lvl 61 pally is at 422 in cooking - only black jelly and great feast are green. Are there any recipes she can get to level up before she can do the Dalaran quests? What level do those quests require? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks

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#2 May 08 2009 at 1:40 PM Rating: Good
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If only there were a website out there that had "Game Info" about "Professions", either primary or "Secondary" like "Cooking"...

That's in the "teach a man to fish" category, though - to fulfill my "give a man a fish" requirement... you're stuck. Black Jelly was added specifically to make it easier to get the last few skillups to 425, but it's pretty much the only cost-effective way.
#3 May 08 2009 at 2:06 PM Rating: Decent
I found the cheapest/easiest recipe to skill off of was the critter bites.
#4 May 08 2009 at 5:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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ElMuneco wrote:
If only there were a website out there that had "Game Info" about "Professions", either primary or "Secondary" like "Cooking"...

That's in the "teach a man to fish" category, though - to fulfill my "give a man a fish" requirement... you're stuck. Black Jelly was added specifically to make it easier to get the last few skillups to 425, but it's pretty much the only cost-effective way.


Wow, that sounds like a great idea! maybe you could start one. LOL

Seriously, though, I guess in my effort to keep it short & sweet I kept it too short. I have read the profession sections, looked at most, if not all of the recipes, and read a lot of the forums (though not, I admit, all). They have been a great help, and without them I could not have made grand master in all three secondary professions before lvl 50 (and before the training got nerfed.) I certainly wouldn't have known where to get killed so I could rev at the graveyard & fish in the bay of sorrows at level 35 without the excellent advice from more experienced players here. (That seems like a awfully strange statement to be making.)

Now I’m working on 450 in each - I have it in fishing. Unfortunately, as a newbie, I didn't know to read the patch notes before I sold my man-o-war's off to vendors, but I can catch more (though it seems they have changed the drop rate since the patch - I have been getting about 3 stacks of grouper to 1/2 stack man-of-war - might just be bad luck.) but as a green the jelly doesn't skill up often, and the most I will get from it is 3 more points (to 425).

Based on what I’ve read it seems that all the recipes that skill past 425 are BoP, available only for Delaran cooking awards, which are available only through quests that, based on recent discussion here, now seem to be available only to lvl 78-80.

Soooooo, what I was wondering is - Is there anything I'm missing? Something a more advanced player would be willing to share? Or is this just wall that can't be got around & I should set this aside until lvl 78 and work on other things (like getting to lvl 78<g>).

I do appreciate, from reading here, that an awful lot of people post a question rather than do a little research, but I really have tried the research route, and would appreciate some guidance, even if it's to say "there is an answer out there, keep looking" or "you're stuck for now", which I think is probably what you are saying, not just about the jelly being the way to get to 425, but about getting beyond that.

Cheers
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#5 May 09 2009 at 10:44 AM Rating: Good
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Just a follow up - I went fishing to get the mats for those 3 pts. The pull rate was better - about the same as pre-patch, so I guess I was just having a bad day with the RNG last time.

In getting 40 man-o-wars, I also got 90 grouper, 49 manta rays, and 24 clams.

At 16 clams I hadn't gotten any pearls. When I opened the 17th one I heard the pearl drop, thought "about time", and went on fishing. A moment later I looked over at my bag & it didn't look right, so I stopped fishing to check. I had gotten a Siren's Tear! Didn't even know these clams could drop those. The next 7 clams dropped 2 Northsea Pearls. I also pulled 2 Crystallized Waters.

The things you miss out on when you buy your mats!

Cheers
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#6 May 09 2009 at 5:19 PM Rating: Good
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You don't need to be very high to do the Dalaran daily food quests. I started doing them with my DK at level 65. Even though I'm not high enough to use any of the Dalaran recipes (I'm 68 now), I've been accumulating currency and lots of northern spices. Start early...
#7 May 10 2009 at 7:58 PM Rating: Good
veena wrote:
You don't need to be very high to do the Dalaran daily food quests. I started doing them with my DK at level 65. Even though I'm not high enough to use any of the Dalaran recipes (I'm 68 now), I've been accumulating currency and lots of northern spices. Start early...


I think that the recipes do not have a level requirement to learn except for your cooking skill. There is a level requirement for the food you create from the recipe. I found this out with some alchemy recipes I was sitting on till I got to the required level. I accidentally clicked on it and learned it before the level requirement...then I realized that the item you make has a level requirement, not the recipe. You just have to be high enough skill in the profession.
#8 May 11 2009 at 7:00 AM Rating: Decent
Most of the recipes have a min 400 cooking skill to make, the feasts are all around 425 if mem serves except for the fish feast, which is 450 skill.
#9 May 12 2009 at 11:16 AM Rating: Good
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elarnia wrote:
Now I’m working on 450 in each - I have it in fishing. Unfortunately, as a newbie, I didn't know to read the patch notes before I sold my man-o-war's off to vendors, but I can catch more (though it seems they have changed the drop rate since the patch - I have been getting about 3 stacks of grouper to 1/2 stack man-of-war - might just be bad luck.) but as a green the jelly doesn't skill up often, and the most I will get from it is 3 more points (to 425).

Based on what I’ve read it seems that all the recipes that skill past 425 are BoP, available only for Delaran cooking awards, which are available only through quests that, based on recent discussion here, now seem to be available only to lvl 78-80.

Soooooo, what I was wondering is - Is there anything I'm missing? Something a more advanced player would be willing to share? Or is this just wall that can't be got around & I should set this aside until lvl 78 and work on other things (like getting to lvl 78<g>).

I do appreciate, from reading here, that an awful lot of people post a question rather than do a little research, but I really have tried the research route, and would appreciate some guidance, even if it's to say "there is an answer out there, keep looking" or "you're stuck for now", which I think is probably what you are saying, not just about the jelly being the way to get to 425, but about getting beyond that.

Kind of sorry about the snark - didn't realize that what you were asking was not "what do I have to do?" but "is it really true that this is what I have to do?". And I only gave the TL;DR version of the answer...

Unlike leatherworking, cooking is relatively easy at higher levels, at least after one of the recent patches - even at 450, a number of recipes are green, and one is yellow. Unfortunately, as you've seen, they built in an artificial roadblock, the fact that the only recipe from 420 to 425 is at the end of its green phase, and those points take a /lot/ of effort. I remember making more than a stack of feasts just for the last point, much less the three before it. Then came the jelly recipe which (1) is a little easier because it's not as close to grey, (2) uses the one fish that comes in schools that was previously useless for anything. But yes, making a ton of feasts or jelly really is the only way to 425.

After 425 it's cake once you're on the cooking award gravy train. You can even tailor your progression by buying the recipes that use the product where you're currently questing. I'm pretty sure that the only requirement is cooking 425 and the ability to get to Dalaran - only one of the dailies even requires you to leave the city and it's doable with a ground mount.

Also, I find it's worth it to take the extra time to seek out schools when I'm looking for a particular fish. The (almost) guaranteed catch pays for the extra time getting there, and there's always a chance for a turtle or a rare achievement catch.
#10 May 12 2009 at 11:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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ElMuneco wrote:
I'm pretty sure that the only requirement is cooking 425 and the ability to get to Dalaran - only one of the dailies even requires you to leave the city and it's doable with a ground mount.


It was either the last patch or the one before that they added a minimum level of 65 to Dalaran cooking dailies, so you'll be stuck at 425 until you level up a bit. Once you get there though, it's pretty smooth sailing.
#11 May 15 2009 at 9:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Thank you all - I will work on lvling to 65 & go from there. Only problem is - my pally was bored, so she dropped skinning & picked up enchanting - now at 300 - and working on getting those formulae! Ah - for a challenge (lol)

ElMuneco wrote
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Also, I find it's worth it to take the extra time to seek out schools when I'm looking for a particular fish. The (almost) guaranteed catch pays for the extra time getting there, and there's always a chance for a turtle or a rare achievement catch.


I agree - one of my happiest game days was when I got the "find fish" skill, but schools in Northrend mostly mean leaving the Keep - not conducive to good health for a poor little 62 pally - she'll get there.

Cheers
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