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#1 Dec 22 2004 at 9:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Thought I'd write a quick little guide to help those starting a career inm leathercrafting. Hope this helps...

If you are a leather wearing class then the most likely candidates for your two professions would be skinning and leathercrafting. I highly recommend you learn these as soon as you are able, as you will typically be able to make better armor for yourself than what you will loot off your kills.

To learn the professions you need to speak to the appropriate trainer. I don't believe any of the starting areas have trainers, but some of the second towns you would visit have trainers, and the major cities have trainers as well. Try talking to some of the guards you meet and ask them where to find the profession trainers.

Skinning will allow you to gather much of the materials you need to make armor. Most beasts will be skinnable once you (or someone else) has looted anything they have on them. A few things such as rabbits or cows don't have loot and are skinnable as soon as they die.

The type of leather you get from a beast will improve as you kill higher level beasts. In the beginning you will mostly find ruined scraps, whcih can be combined to make light leather. Once you learn the recipe you can combine light leather to make medium leather, and so forth.

One of the earliest recipes you get for leatherworking will be light armor kits. These can be used to add 8 to the armor class of your boots, gloves, chest and belt. To use an armor kit you right click the kit (you get a blue glowing hand) which you then left click on the piece of armor you wish to improve. The item being improved can be one you are wearing or can be in one of your bags. At higher skills you can make medium and heavy armor kits which will add even more.

Skin everything you can that you kill, and you can often find other people's kills you can skin too. As a curtesy make sure you don't skin someone else's kills if they are going to skin them. Chances are if they aren't one of the leather wearing classes they probably won't be skinning them.

Once you make armor you can wear, keep making armor for practice. You can give to friends, sell to others, or just sell to vendors. You can make some decent money even selling your products to vendors. Orange recipies should always get you a skill level when you make it. Yellow and green recipies won't always get you a level and grey recipies won't raise skill at all. You won't lose your items if you fail and can just try again.

Many of the receipes will require some stuff purchased from a tradeskill vendor. You can usually find these in towns, typically in or near an inn. Some items can only be found in large cities (e.g. dyes). And some of the high level recipes require items made by other player professions.

Most or all of your recipies you will need to buy from a trainer. The recipies that are green are ones you can learn (assuming you can afford them). The ones in red are ones you don't have enough skill for (make a note of when you can come back to learn them).

One final note is that anyone can wear leather cloaks, but only leather and higher classes can wear the other leather armor you make. I believe anyone can use armor kits as well.

If you keep your skills up as you level you should always have some pretty decent armor and a decent supply of cash. Plus you can take some pride in the fact that every item you make will say it was made by you. :)

Edited, Wed Dec 22 21:13:52 2004 by Romen
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#2 Dec 31 2004 at 11:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Very good post and thank you. I just recently started playing and I took up skinning and leatherworking on my druid.

A quick question. I noticed once I reached 100 in skill for skinning my skills did not increase while killing the same mobs I had been. I am lvl 11 and they are 8 or 9. Do your skinning skills only go up when you hit higher mobs or am I just in a funk that should kick back into gear soon killing the same mobs?

Any info would be appreciated as I can not find anything yet to answer my question
#3 Jan 01 2005 at 12:01 AM Rating: Decent
You must kill higher monster at your level because they dont give you enough and your skills take longer to increase
#4 Jan 01 2005 at 12:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks :)
#5 Jan 01 2005 at 6:54 PM Rating: Decent
An easy way to tell if you get skinning xp is when you mouse over the thing you are about to skin, look in the tooltip window and notice the color of the word skinable. The colors work the same as everything else. orange - will get you a level, green and yellow might, grey will give you no xp.
#6 Jan 02 2005 at 12:40 AM Rating: Decent
Or if you forget to look at colors -- if you get XP from killing the critter, you can get skinning skillups. From testing last night, furballs no more than 5 levels below me gave skill raises at least 33.3% of the time (ie, no, no, yes) and that was the worst stat - often it was more like 50%. So if you intend to kill creatures for both pelts and skillups, don't go after anything less than 5 levels below you.
#7 Jan 03 2005 at 12:06 AM Rating: Decent
Actually, go with the color of "Skinnable" -- I've had several times when my character was killing things a level or two above him, but "Skinnable" was grey, so I wasn't increasing my skinning skill. (Got good leather from the kills, though!)
#8 Jan 03 2005 at 2:09 AM Rating: Default
What do I do at lvl 225 leatherworking. I know i have to pick a specialty, but how do I do it. Do I just go find one of the trainers now and they will train me or do I have to do something else before I go to them? Anyone know where they all are, especially for the horde? That would be very useful information to include in this post.
#9 Jan 03 2005 at 9:50 PM Rating: Decent
bodpot, you dont pick a speicialty yet :)

you need to find your artisan trainer ( actually be a master leatherworker but will give you artisan )

i know for horde the artisan leatherworkin trainer is in the tent in Feralis :)


you speicalise later ( well you can choose dragonscale at 220 aparnelty others reqiure higher )

you will find those trainers in the higher lvl areas ( dragonscale quest is like a lvl45-55 or something so i cant do it yet.. damn hard to kill dragons ) :)


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#10 Jan 04 2005 at 8:11 AM Rating: Decent
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~level 227 LW/skinner here

The money rolls in pretty fast... you just need to keep on working on it... or else you will fall way behind everyone else

(being the first to make something gives you a *huge* monatary advantage)

Edited, Tue Jan 4 08:12:10 2005 by Kujabuja
#11 Jan 21 2005 at 10:08 PM Rating: Default
HOW TO MAKE MONEY AT LEATHERWORKING, or keep you afloat.

The easiest way to make money are the kits. You can auction to make kits for people and sell them, or just put them on the AH. I've often gone to my mailbox only to find a few gold waiting for me. Make sure you get all the kits. Kits are indeed level based, yet level based upon the item you are trying to apply them to, not the character's level. More people are prone to buy a kit than they are to buying an enchantment, because then they can wear items that might not have as much armor as others, but that have specials they would like to use. That's where the kit evens the score for them. You might want to suggest this when selling your kits.

Next are enchanters. You could offer to provide a group of enchanters with green OR blue items you could make. They would pay you nicely for tons and tons of these items made. You could literally set up shop with a list of enchanter friends that would keep you sitting quite nicely with cash for your green or blue items. this would also free them to do some other skill that they might want to do instead of tailoring for their other profession, or delete a mule they created to give them greens/blues.

Lastly, I don't know if this works at all levels, but when you get to nightscape, I was able to walk into ah and buyout all the thick leather, make nightscape and sell it to the vendor for cost, and it gets better at exalted. [ but how does this make me money? ] It doesn't but i thought i'd throw in this secret so you didn't think you had to spend hours with your brain bleeding out, farming for thick leather to make 1 item of it. this way you can skill up and not even lose money at light speed. [ do rune items after that to get to 300 or so ]

With these two tips you should be able to, if you are deligent at it, buy those epic items you see in AH for 100gold, or buy that epic panther you so desire.

P.S. when i put my mind to it, I bought my tiger in 2 days of actually thinking about saving for it.

P.P.S. i dont' think gatherer skills are making that much money any more, at least not on my server. so miner, skinners are getting the shaft.
#12 Jan 22 2005 at 7:30 PM Rating: Good
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Lastly, I don't know if this works at all levels, but when you get to nightscape, I was able to walk into ah and buyout all the thick leather, make nightscape and sell it to the vendor for cost, and it gets better at exalted. [ but how does this make me money? ] It doesn't but i thought i'd throw in this secret so you didn't think you had to spend hours with your brain bleeding out, farming for thick leather to make 1 item of it. this way you can skill up and not even lose money at light speed. [ do rune items after that to get to 300 or so ]


You have to explain this to me...

I simply can't figure out what you're trying to say.
#13 Jan 23 2005 at 4:33 PM Rating: Decent
basically, it says to look at supply prices and vendor resale prices. if you can buy everything you need in the AH and sell it to a vendor at no loss (the same as what you paid for the supplies) then you can increase yer leatherworking skill for free.
#14 Jan 24 2005 at 8:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Sorry if I sound stupid but I can't find this information anywhere. Where in the friking world do light hides come from? I have seen tons and tons of light leather, leather scraps no hides. What am I doing wrong?
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#15 Jan 24 2005 at 2:16 PM Rating: Decent
Light/Medium/Heavy hides are a rarer drop when skinning a creature. Usually if you're starting to get, for example, medium leather when skinning, you'll start to get light hides more frequently. My leatherworker is just starting to get heavy leather, and I get medium and light hides in abundance and have found 2 or 3 heavy hides.

Hope that helps!

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#16 Jan 24 2005 at 9:45 PM Rating: Good
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you can also see what level mobs you can skin by taking your skinning skill and diving it by four. i.e. i have 288 skinning skill now, so divided by four i can skin a monster up to level about level 72, if such a monster existed.

you can alkso tell if you can skin a mob by what color it says on the corpses description. most skinners will be leveling up on green colored mobs, only because if you skin everything you see, your skinning skill will FAR outpace your level. i think at 288 skinning ive seen the corpses of level 50 monsters that were still green to me (meaning small chance of skill up). if a monsters corpse is gray to you, then of course you cant get any skill.
#17 Jan 25 2005 at 8:51 PM Rating: Decent
well I started the game a short time ago, and as a rouge I chose leather working but I don't know how to get some of the first recipies to start leveling up my crafting, could you help me to tell me how do I get level 1 recepies?, thanks
#18 Jan 26 2005 at 10:13 AM Rating: Decent
So can I assume it will take longer to get to 150 skinning since it seems difficult to get skill ups at 103. Edit: Oh I see it says further up my bad sorry.

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#19 Jan 26 2005 at 10:16 AM Rating: Decent
yeah me too i need noob recipes too. man i wish i would have left ffxi sooner for this but the stores were of course sold out of WoW.
#20 Jan 27 2005 at 2:53 AM Rating: Good
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Great post! Smiley: yippee

Just one little thing...

Romen, pet mage of Jabober wrote:


One of the earliest recipes you get for leatherworking will be light armor kits. These can be used to add 8 to the armor class of your boots, gloves, chest and belt.


Boots, gloves, chest and legs Smiley: wink
#21 Jan 27 2005 at 3:03 PM Rating: Decent
You get most of your recipies from the same person you learned the skill at. You also can find some recipes randomly or recieve them as rewards for quests. Mostly though, just go back to the person you learned leatherworking from in the first place (or any other leatherworking trainer for your skill level).
#22 Jan 27 2005 at 4:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow! I am in Dragonscale Leatherworking and I can make tons of green and blue armor. I didnt realize that enchanters would do that (man I am such a newb!). I am just having a hard time find patterns for dragonscale and regular leatherworking at 260+. Good thing I have about 300 units of thick leather and a crapload of Worn Dragonscales in the bank lol. This is a great thread!


But....I AM SUCH A NEWB!
#23 Jan 28 2005 at 2:36 AM Rating: Decent
I'm starting to learn leatherworking on a hunter I made, only I don't know where to start.

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One of the earliest recipes you get for leatherworking will be light armor kits.


So this is what I get:
You make the light armor kits from the light leather, and it takes 3 ruined leather scraps to make the light leather.

But, what do you do to the leather scraps to turn it into light leather? Do you click on it, if so, does it have to be unstacked? Is there something to combine it in?
#24 Jan 28 2005 at 3:39 AM Rating: Good
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AuroraKimberly wrote:
I'm starting to learn leatherworking on a hunter I made, only I don't know where to start.

Quote:
One of the earliest recipes you get for leatherworking will be light armor kits.


So this is what I get:
You make the light armor kits from the light leather, and it takes 3 ruined leather scraps to make the light leather.

But, what do you do to the leather scraps to turn it into light leather? Do you click on it, if so, does it have to be unstacked? Is there something to combine it in?


Its another low level recipe you get from the trainer to make light leather.
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