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#1 Apr 09 2008 at 6:00 PM Rating: Good
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When did the Dunes become a Power Level fest?

Like 8 out of the 10 parties I was in, had one.
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#3 Apr 09 2008 at 11:44 PM Rating: Good
Not just the dunes. When I was working on sub jobs, a majority of the parties had PLs. I even managed to get PLs for two different parties in the 60-70 levels.
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#4 Apr 10 2008 at 4:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Dunes have been pl fest for past 2yrs its not new been like that for along time.
why take 3-4 days lvling a job with tanks that dont know how to tank, whm that spam curaga and dont know what barfira is, blm that will empty mp pool in 1 fight and get mad when they die, leaders that invite smn, pups, drg, and bst b/c they think there pets are cool(yes i had a leader say that once) ect. ect.

or you could just pl yourself from 10-18/19 in a afternoon


Edited, Apr 10th 2008 8:16pm by princeandprincess
#5 Apr 11 2008 at 5:58 AM Rating: Good
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princeandprincess wrote:
Dunes have been pl fest for past 2yrs its not new been like that for along time.
why take 3-4 days lvling a job with tanks that dont know how to tank, whm that spam curaga and dont know what barfira is, blm that will empty mp pool in 1 fight and get mad when they die, leaders that invite smn, pups, drg, and bst b/c they think there pets are cool(yes i had a leader say that once) ect. ect.

or you could just pl yourself from 10-18/19 in a afternoon


Edited, Apr 10th 2008 8:16pm by princeandprincess


Because that's where you start to learn your job in party situations. How will tanks learn to tank if the PL has hate on the mob the whole time? How will WHMs learn to manage MP if they never use it b/c the PL keeps everyone @ full HP? etc etc.

If you don't want to put up with that, I suggest soloing to 20+, with the changes over the past year to signet it's easy to do
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#6 Apr 11 2008 at 11:45 AM Rating: Decent
Some party's use PL some don't.
If you don't want to be PL, you could always use /blockaid

I some times PL, but its very rare, as I get healing skill up just as much from merit party's.
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#7 Apr 11 2008 at 3:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, actually I really don't mind a PL. However, it's situational. Besides, it was just a question. :P
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#8 Apr 15 2008 at 3:53 PM Rating: Decent
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intimmydation wrote:
Because that's where you start to learn your job in party situations.

when i got 4 jobs at 75(1 mage, 1 tank, 1 DD and thf what ever class you consider that) i think by now i know how to play most aspects of all job

Edited, Apr 15th 2008 7:55pm by princeandprincess

Edited, Apr 15th 2008 7:55pm by princeandprincess
#9 Apr 15 2008 at 9:00 PM Rating: Decent
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princeandprincess wrote:
intimmydation wrote:
Because that's where you start to learn your job in party situations.

when i got 4 jobs at 75(1 mage, 1 tank, 1 DD and thf what ever class you consider that) i think by now i know how to play most aspects of all job

Edited, Apr 15th 2008 7:55pm by princeandprincess

Edited, Apr 15th 2008 7:55pm by princeandprincess


I beg to differ with some people.
and THF=DD
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#10 Apr 16 2008 at 3:50 AM Rating: Default
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Hmmmm, PL is good in some cases, especially with someone who actually knows what they are doing!

Sometimes tho you will see a - what I would consider - low/mid level PLing in Buburimu and /fail, so it can be bad too, but I'll never say no to Refresh!!!! <(^_^)>

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#11 Apr 21 2008 at 8:25 AM Rating: Good
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I noticed that after I came back after not playing for a year.
although in the last 4 weeks or so, its become increasingly difficult to get a party in valkurm during the week at the times I play 9pm - 12:30am uk time and quite often any u do get are made up of whatever's available (limited) and cant really function properly without a PL.





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#12 Apr 21 2008 at 7:14 PM Rating: Good
The PL thing is sadly across all servers. I partied as a 55 PLD today - and guess what - someone bought a PL along, conversation went a little like this

PL - Please don't voke, leave hate on me
Me: No
/ja "provoke" <t>

PL- Cav, I told you not to voke
Me - Tough
PL- Why do you keep voking? Its easier if I take hate
Me - Because I'm a **** PLD!
PL - So??
Me - So, would you want me tanking endgame without knowing how to voke ?
PL - I'm only 73, I don't do endgame. Please stop voking
Me - No
PL - STOP VOKING
Me - Jesus, I'm tired of this, theres a whm seeking, get them in to tank if you won't let me do my job.

Im sorry, but this was a level 55 party- we had a good setup, me , 2 DD's with voke, a rdm, a whm, and a brd . We did not need a PL

PL has a time and a place - level 55 is not one of them .
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#13 Apr 21 2008 at 8:06 PM Rating: Decent
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The PL thing is sadly across all servers. I partied as a 55 PLD today - and guess what - someone bought a PL along, conversation went a little like this

PL - Please don't voke, leave hate on me
Me: No
/ja "provoke" <t>

PL- Cav, I told you not to voke
Me - Tough
PL- Why do you keep voking? Its easier if I take hate
Me - Because I'm a @#%^ing PLD!
PL - So??
Me - So, would you want me tanking endgame without knowing how to voke ?
PL - I'm only 73, I don't do endgame. Please stop voking
Me - No
PL - STOP VOKING
Me - Jesus, I'm tired of this, theres a whm seeking, get them in to tank if you won't let me do my job.

Im sorry, but this was a level 55 party- we had a good setup, me , 2 DD's with voke, a rdm, a whm, and a brd . We did not need a PL

PL has a time and a place - level 55 is not one of them .


Well, to add on to this. I finally managed to get out of the level range of the dunes. Thankfully, so far at Qufim, no Power-levelling at all.

However, I am going to agree with you fatal, how can character skill develop if all there is constant spamming of Weapon Skills and rapid Nuking due to the increased safety of PLs?

I don't know. I'm usually welcoming to a PL but from 16-19 it was a nightmare. While I kept my cool and try to remember all of the macros and what weapons to use. I managed to feel that I have accomplished something to learn my job as a WAR is.

My 2 gil anyways.
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#14 Apr 22 2008 at 4:52 PM Rating: Default
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1. at 55 there shouldnt be a pl
2. if there is there there only to assist in cures and hasting (there should still be a healer in pt)
3. they should not be tanking not because of knowing how to voke but bc of your shield/parry skill
4. if they insist on tanking get them killed
#15 Jun 05 2008 at 3:37 PM Rating: Decent
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I will agree with the I got so many jobs at bla level argument when leveling smn and being able to use my bloodpacts in stead of curing all the time. This is the only job I know that actually works beter in a PL party because there able to use a abilitie they need to level and otherwise won't.

But at the end of the line a decent pt just doesn't need a PL. At any level a pt should be able to get decent exp the way it was meant. It's also pretty common in my experience that things in a PL pt go wrong. Whm ( if there is one ) is spamming dia , holy and so forth. Then the PL is afk to take a **** , out of mp , being bored to death not paying attention ending in a complete wipe.

The most fun PL i ever had was a mnk that brought a 75 rdm friend and told the pt that his friend wouldn't cure anybody but him. That way he was able to keep counterstance up 24/7 and sub war. And even he bit the bullit lol.

But the worst thing happend last week. I don't know if this would fall under the namer PL but at 70 pld we had 3 !! people outside the pt curing us in the mire. I wonder what wil make a person so desperate as to do that....
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#16 Jun 09 2008 at 2:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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I PL lvl 75's on my 28 WHM.

They love it.
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#17 Jun 13 2008 at 6:50 PM Rating: Good
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I once had a dunes pt w/ 5 DD and 6 PL -.-
Lol luckily everyone already had higher level jobs and knew what they were doing but it was still pretty rediculous. Also Bsts are interesting PLs because they can pull for you too w/ charm+leave
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#18 Jun 30 2008 at 10:17 AM Rating: Good
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Aether isn't a normal PL (Galka 75Bst/Whm = lolMP). But he's one helluva puller I can attest to that!

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#19 Jul 03 2008 at 3:38 PM Rating: Good
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just wait til I get RDM/BST level'd past 70 :P
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#20 Jul 05 2008 at 6:15 PM Rating: Default
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PLing makes leveling faster. If you have the mental capacity of an average 13 year old(minimum age required to play ffxi), you could be given any job at 75 and be able to play it properly. The learning their job argument is a horrible crutch people use to support their crusade against PL. The best comparison I can think of is Jack Thompson's determination to stop violence in video games because he theorizes it causes actual violence with no proof whatsoever. In short, I'll continue to PL myself every chance I get and if you don't like it you can get out of my party and enjoy your lfg or 3k/hr nonsense while I do 10-20 in 5-6 hours.
#21 Jul 06 2008 at 6:19 PM Rating: Good
20k in 6 hours is 3.3k/hr
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#22 Jul 07 2008 at 3:58 PM Rating: Good
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That's a whole extra .3k..


WOAH woah woah...

Why haven't I been getting PL'd for longer?
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