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#1 Feb 01 2005 at 3:53 PM Rating: Good
Hello, fellow Remorans!

After looking at the Blacklist thread in the Remora forums recently, I took a look in my Blacklist, and saw a number of names (who shall remain nameless for the sake of this post).

I realised something- apart from three names, who shall remain forever in my /blist, I could not for the lilfe of me recall why I had added the other names. I'm sure, at the time, I felt they deserved it, but I decided that if I could not remember why I blacklisted them without the aid of some typewritten comment, it was probably due to something unimportant in the grand scheme of things.

Thus, I have deleted all the names in my Blacklist (save the three I clearly remember), and would respectfully suggest other players may want to peruse their lists and maybe do some similar housekeeping. After all, we all may be on someone's blacklist for some stupid thing we did at some point or other!

Thanks for reading my 2 gil's worth, and feel free to post comments/observations/criticisms!

Edit: Just to clarify- I never suggested removing every name from the blacklist- like I said, I kept 3 names in there (permanently blacklisted). However, there may be people (like me) who /blist add <name> whenever they get ****** at someone, then forget they added them n the first place. (Prime example- /blisting every "Invite Me" spammer in Dunes piles up names in the list pretty fast!) ^^

Edited, Thu Feb 3 10:15:53 2005 by Wondroustremor
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#2 Feb 01 2005 at 5:13 PM Rating: Decent
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I have zero people on my blacklist, I see no reason to add anyone to it. If I don't like someone, chances are we will not speak again anyways. So why bother?
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#3 Feb 01 2005 at 6:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Mine got pretty full while I was fishing on the Ferry. I really should remove some of the names but there were a few just down right evil little beggers on there. (I no longer remember which is which).
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#4 Feb 01 2005 at 6:58 PM Rating: Decent
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ohhh no.

im keeping my /blist nice and filled. plenty of names on there and still plenty of room left for more.
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#5 Feb 01 2005 at 10:09 PM Rating: Decent
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the other day i was soloing my THF to 15 and i came across a lizzy that did some major damage to me, while i was resting someone on my black list came up and started healing me.
i could not remember the reason i put him on my blist so i removed him ... and while i was looking at all the names i also could not figure out why some of the people were on it.. so i removed them...

and as for the spam for casino's well i just filtered /shout

#6 Feb 02 2005 at 3:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Funny thing occured to me while reading your message...

I do this on a regular basis with my Friends List (cleaning out people I cannot remember or just never see anymore), so why not with my blist as well.

As it turns out, my blist is rather short to begin with, but save a few names which I can clearly recall, I've now made it an exclusive club.

Thanks for the advice - taken to heart ^^
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#7 Feb 02 2005 at 10:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey Sarker,

I wonder if i made the cut on your flist? Well, been kinda meaning to clear out my flish as well. Point taken about the post, but some people deserves to be on my blist...forever! ^^
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#8 Feb 03 2005 at 6:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I refuse to take Nukeur off my blacklist, for one reason, he is not kind, he is cruel, and mmany people I know have him on there and share the same similiar thoughts about him, therefore he will stay forever, but the rest ill take off.

But I agree with you, some people just may have had a bad day iuncluding me ive been put on peoples list for having a bad day and saying the wrong thing, but theres those select few who just dont deserve to be taken off the list.
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#9 Feb 08 2005 at 4:16 PM Rating: Decent
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How DO you clear names off your /blist and /flist neway? I'm on PS2 w/ keyboard and i've been trying several commands with no success :P
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#10 Feb 10 2005 at 1:00 PM Rating: Good
You simply type /blist delete <name>
(Replace <name> with the name you want to remove).
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#11 Feb 17 2005 at 10:44 AM Rating: Default
The blist is improperly used if someone is added to it for something petty. First off, the people who get on it deserve it 100%, were extremely rude, were MPKing, among other things which were not just only violations to me, but to anyone they would have done these things to.

I never put anyone on my blist for something petty small. Only the people who are just asking to be blisted are on the list, and staying on the list. MPKers will never have my remorse or a "second chance". Also those who harass me because I beat them to a Notorious Monster will stay on my list forever. Those types of people have no patience, a bad attitude, and are poor sports. Players like that will try to rush a party to start when it has 5 instead of 6 members, will do something drastic resulting in someone elses death, and leave without giving a heads-up first.

If you are irresponsible enough to blist someone for something petty, I'm sure there is another way around it. For example, shouting. Filter your shout for a while then turn it back on. If they were in your party, and are spamming you in /tell about something, just leave the party and look for a new one. Give them 2 minutes to say whatever and never respond to an ***-hat. (It will p*** them off^^) You see, their are other ways to get around things. You should only blist players who do a violation, then move on.

Sorry if I sound like I'm mean for wanting to p*** someone else off, but if they are a n00b enough to get on the list in the first place, then they deserve no response in /tell.

-also, I do forgive and forget. However, each and every name on my /blist I can tell you exactly where I was, and what they did the day the moment they were added to my blist. I did post on this on the /blist thread.

**If you make it on my /blist, you are a true n00b**

Edited, Thu Feb 17 10:46:20 2005 by finalfantasyonlineplayer
#12 Feb 17 2005 at 12:02 PM Rating: Good
finalfantasyonlineplayer wrote:
The blist is improperly used if someone is added to it for something petty.

There's a small problem with this- what you may consider petty to you (e.g.- spam shouting) may be a major irritant to me. Rather than filter /shout (which may cause me to miss a /sh I would want to get, it's easier to /blist that one person irritating me with spam overkill. I can always take that one person out of the /blist later, but in the meantime, I don't miss other messages because of one or two spammers.

Also, even though you have your own policies about why the /blist should be used, it doesn't mean that I should only /blist those people that have committed serious offences. It's put there for each player to use, and it's up to each player's discretion to decide how it's used. There is nothing in the ToS that says not to use it to filter out idiots who hold long conversations in /shout, or when people are spamming casinos, etc.

However, this is also why I now do a periodic check & cleanup of my /blist. Some people (MPKers, people who personally attacked me, con artists) remain. I think my permanent list is 4 people. The rest, I decide whether or not to keep or remove. I now review my /blist every week for that reason.

Just my personal feelings.
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#13 Feb 17 2005 at 12:57 PM Rating: Good
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I too tend to /blist spam shouters if there is a chance someone may be shouting for something of interest to me. But it is always temporary, normally they find their way off in within a few hours.

If someone is really getting on my nerves (harassment, vulgar comments, etc) then I will blist them until I forget what exactly prompted me to put them on. I only have one name on my blist that I do not forsee coming off anytime soon.

However, there are two people on this server that a simple blisting would not due justice. Both of these people are European players (not that I really care where someone is from; but it matters to state that for this post) who have repeatedly belittled, harassed, insulted, and made MANY various other remarks. One of these people didn't find it fitting enough to tell me how stupid I am for playing Paladin and how much it sucks (though I wasn't even playing PLD at the time; he did state that he refuses to play with a PLD), he had to attack me overall for being stupid because I am Amercian. The second person didn't care whether I was a PLD or not, but once again attacked me for being American.

So as I have already told them, and as I know they check these boards, I will say it again: this is a video game, not real life. I did not choose where I was born or where I was raised and I certainly will not apologize for it to anyone. I don't care what some clown watching CNN from halfway across the world thinks about my country or my president. I just find it idiotic to blame an individual American for something that doesn't pertain to them.

I really enjoy playing with EU players. Since I don't speak Japanese, or really have time to learn it, I can at least speak French and Italian enabling me to sometimes find parties a bit quicker. I just find it sad that in a game that is played in multiple countries giving us the ability to make friends and connections across oceans, all some people want to do is insult a certain type of people without provokation.

These two people will never make my blist, but all of my friends and my linkshell are aware of them and their prejudices (they haven't done it to only me). And I typically warn any nice Americans about them so they can have a heads-up and avoid the agony and insults, but this is not the time nor forum to release their names. I have however filed a complaint on both of them with SE and I know at least four other people that have as well.

The point of this diatribe is this: why do world politics have to matter? Why do people have to be insulted based on politics? How does the country I live in affect my ability as a Paladin? Granted these are the only 2 people I've found that are like this, but it still hurts pretty bad.
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#14 Mar 11 2005 at 2:14 PM Rating: Good
Just a friendly weekend reminder- don't forget to clean up your Friend List & your Black List too! Smiley: boozing
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#15 Mar 24 2005 at 11:27 AM Rating: Good
Just a friendly reminder to all to sort through your {Black List} and do some cleanup- if you're like me, you /blist a dozen shout-spammers while running through Jeuno if you're in a bad mood one day. Smiley: rolleyes

Of course, feel free to keep those people you feel deserve a permanent place in your list there!
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#16 Mar 25 2005 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
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So I missed this post 'til I just saw it now. Is a good idea, I do that about once every 2 weeks or so. The only person that's on my blist and will stay is Ortaga. Otherwise, I mainly blist spammers, and there were a couple people in my LS that I temp blist when they're drunk, high, or just extremely annoying. I also temp blisted someone that was "Freestyling" in /sh in Jeuno... So yea, it's a good post, about something I've made like a every other weekend ritual ^^

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#17 Mar 25 2005 at 9:24 PM Rating: Decent
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The purpose of /blist is to stop someone who is trying to spam you.

The whole irony of blacklist threads, is everyone who posts on them have usually done something just as bad or worse than what they are posting about. Even worse, some of the posts on the threads are total lies or misunderstandings.

I would suggest that you guys stop being so shallow. Grow up a little. Just because someone does one bad thing or sucks at something is no reason to not acknowledge their existance. People are more complicated than that.

The moral highroad doesn't exist. Every person on the planet falls short of perfection. People can also have bad days,

I'm not saying that it is ok to steal, mpk, lie, betray, etc. Those things are still wrong. I take it so far I even refuse to steal and mpk gilsellers because to me mpk is mpk.

What I am saying is that people have varied traits and you will enjoy life and the entire world better when you look for and find the value in every life.
#18 Mar 26 2005 at 4:03 AM Rating: Decent
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How do you view the blacklist? I've put a bunch of people on mine for spamming but can't remember who they were. :/

Oh, and please don't use /say in your macros, especially when you're in a party! No, everybody does not think you're clever when they see:
"/em grins rogishly at the <t>." (Could you at least spell it right?)
"/em lays the <insert race> smackdown on the <t>!"
"Now taste my HELLFIRE LOL!!wtfbbq!!11oneone! you <t>!"

That's where most of the people on my blacklist come from.
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Edited, Sat Mar 26 04:03:44 2005 by JanxSpirit
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#19 Mar 26 2005 at 9:32 AM Rating: Good
Bleach, I think you misunderstand the point of this thread- not to /blist people, but to remind people to clean up their /blists.

Also, my perception of what /blist is for is different from yours. I /blist people that are doing things that interfere with my enjoyment of the game- whether it's shout-spamming, being a general nuisance, someone who attempted an MPK... there are a lot of valid reasons to /blist people. However, how long they remain in there depends on the action that earned them a /blist in the first place.

For JanxSpirit, here are the /blist commands:

/blist: shows everyone in your /blist list.
/blist add (name): adds someone to your /blist.
/blist delete (name): removes someone from your /blist.

Hope this helps! Smiley: boozing

Edited, Sat Mar 26 09:32:33 2005 by Wondroustremor
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#20 Mar 26 2005 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
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I /blist people that are doing things that interfere with my enjoyment of the game-

JP linkshells camping the 3 big ground NMs every single day non stop and never giving us a chance at them, ruins my enjoyment of the game far more than any single act that has ever been done to you in this game.

6 months of constant effort.. and I have a behemoth tongue.. 1 more total year and I might have a black belt.. w00t.. or whatever.. I've considered literatly planning a vacation to Tokyo to spend a week in a hotel to get a chance at winning a claim.

Get some perspective man. Maybe if you were busy doing something important besides condeming people you might not be annoyed so much? :)

I'm not attacking you directly, just the whole attitude that goes along with the /blist crowd.

#21 Mar 27 2005 at 6:24 AM Rating: Good
Bleach, rated you up for bringing an argument to the table which reinforces the very reason for this thread- to remind people not to just keep everyone in their /blist for eternity... unless that person has done something that warrants them being perma-blisted.

Bleach wrote:
JP linkshells camping the 3 big ground NMs every single day non stop and never giving us a chance at them, ruins my enjoyment of the game far more than any single act that has ever been done to you in this game.

Not going to rate this comment, but I did find it childish. How can you tell me that you are more aggravated by one group of people than I am by another? That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. I refuse to get into an argument about a purely subjective opinion.

However, if you speak to a GM, he will tell you to /blist people for: spam shouting, annoying /tells, attempted MPKs (when you call a GM too late for them to witness the actions taken by the accused), casinos, and gil-beggars. Thus, your sole reason for using the /blist command is valid, but not the only reason. As I said, IMHO, cleaning up that list is as important as adding people.

And I don't spend much time annoyed, although I used to, because I discovered the usefulness of the /blist command. Instead of having to filer out shouts in a city, I can /blist the few constant shouters, and not worry about missing a shout I might actually want (if I had used the /shout filter). I just do some maintenance on my /blist list regularly to keep the list down, and so people that I've temporarily /blisted for a small reason don't stay there. Smiley: boozing
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#22 Mar 28 2005 at 11:52 AM Rating: Good
I just read a post by Bleach:
Help me out! How can NA claim NMs?. Wow- now I can see why you said I couldn't be as frustrated as you are! I haven't had much competition with JP LSes (obviously at my current levels I'm not in a HNMLS), so don't have any experience with the whole ping/latency issue you mention in that post. I retract my original statement about your comaprison in frustration! Smiley: eek

If the latency problem is as bad as you posted, that must be agony- I wouldn't be able to go back day after day and try to clain an HNM when I almost know it will be claimed as soon as it spawns. Smiley: banghead

This topic seems to be a hotly debated one- but it's worth a read.

As for this post, I still say that it's a good idea to maintain your /blist at least once a week! Smiley: grin
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#23 Mar 28 2005 at 2:57 PM Rating: Good
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I would suggest that you guys stop being so shallow. Grow up a little. Just because someone does one bad thing or sucks at something is no reason to not acknowledge their existance. People are more complicated than that.

Bleach...can I ask you something?

Are you the same person who wrote that thread about NA people not getting any NMs?

Your post here and your post in the Main Forum don't match.. Which is it?
#24 Mar 28 2005 at 7:18 PM Rating: Decent
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They match up fine. People regionally located in NA (North America) for whatever reason have a bit of distance between them and a called Japan. They have a BIG ocean between them called the Pacific I think.

If you look on a globe it is almost on the entire other side of the planet!

Today when King Behemoth poped, I saw a paladin actually engage and start attacking thin air before he spawned. I was unable to target anything at this point, finally he spawned dead 2 seconds later. Needless to say we lost yet another to JP.

It doesn't mean that Japanese all eat babies and rape goats. In fact if a Japanese person moved into my house, they will have the same problems and be just as flustrated as me.

And even so, I have never blacklisted someone who beat me to a claim. I don't think /blist can hold that many people anyway.
#25 Mar 28 2005 at 7:34 PM Rating: Decent
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He killed it in two seconds? o_o

Anyway...check your thread on the main FFXI forum...I posted in there. I'm not in a hurry to deal with the HNM stuff yet, but I've been dreading it in many ways. I don't want to have mediocre gear, I want to have equipement that is at least mildly impressive.

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