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#1 Jul 16 2008 at 4:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Is anyone else noticing all the casino's popping up on Valefor? They were always around, but seem to be getting more intrusive lately. Most notable in Jeuno are Tegga's and Knuckles. I'm sure they're getting rich with the misery of all the suckers wanting to make a quick buck, but I'm getting annoyed by it. How does everyone else feel about it?
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I'm not up for it, so I just /blist them so I don't get the spam.
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I'm not up for it, so I just /blist them so I don't get the spam.


exactly ^^ and my /blist grows even bigger.
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I never really liked the idea. One time I was in the bard shop pickin up a song for a friend and I got a tell from the person running the so called casino. She/he asked me if I was there to gamble and I replied no he/she replied with "{death}" lol. Either way I find it to be a very pointless think.
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I strongly believe they have hacked their /random results to increase their chances of winning. It is well known that /random is computed client-side, and in theory it is possible to hack the results. I have gambled with them many times, in the beginning I played it safe with small amounts. 5k here, maybe 10k if I was feeling lucky. Over a period of 15 rolls I won 46.7% of the time. I decided to test my luck and started betting big. I had a ton of gil so I didn't mind losing some of it, after all that's what gambling is all about. So I would bet bigger, 50k, maybe 100k. 60k. Etc. When my bets were high, I again recorded the statistics over a period of 15 rolls, and I won a mere 20% of the time.

Now, I would always wait for them to roll first, so I don't think they have a way to roll whatever number they want. However, I do think they hacked their client side results in such a way that it is not totally random. It is more biased towards higher numbers. Tegga averaged 769 when I was rolling with him on the high bets, whereas I averaged 515. The one time he rolled low was a 27, but he had a condition on his casino that if he rolls below 50 he wins. Go figure.
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I personally don't really care for it either. But you have to admit that more power to him for having the bank roll to do this operation. Eventhough I sorta know where he got the money from in the first place, but still. More power to Tegga.

Now between Casinos and teleport spam's in Lower Jeuno, I usually just hang out in Port, or the Garden up top. ^^

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There is obviously a market for gambling or they wouldn't keep doing it. I have not gambled with any of these people, but have not heard anything negative about them. They pay up if the person wins no matter the amount. From another post I heard this is sometimes in items rather then actual gil.

At the same time one has to wonder if this is legal.. All other on-line gambling requires the person to be of legal gambling age. Understanding of course that these laws are on legel tender not gil. There isn't anything in the T&C specific about gambling that I saw just seems odd.


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LOL, I highly doubt they can be thrown in jail for underage gambling. Now if they were doin some swappin of real money it is a different thing.
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its not real money so it shouldnt be against the law >_>
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I think it was a great idea and I wish I had the funding to run one. (obviously before those fellows)

I like a lot of things that happen around the game. Weird though, I have yet to experience a /blist. I've met some extremly annoying players but I seem to keep their attention span at bay. Sort of like my hate control, I don't get any! :)
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I found them incredibly annoying. I never blacklisted anyone because for all I know they could be nice guys, but I'd rather not have the spam. I relocated my LFG hangout to the balcony in Ru'Lude Gardens instead of the end of the upper walk of Lower Jeuno, right by the chocobo stables and the homepoint.

I doubt I'd ever participate in them.
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Heh with all this Quests and missions who has time to gamble? Its fun making your gils by beating those giant trees and Big cats, Crawlers and Marlboro... rolling dice at random is a street game... If I want that id prolly go to Vegas than play senseless game within a game... No offense but it'd take you a long time to finish this game,leveling all your characters Job, let alone complete the advanced Job....
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haha i rolled once... lost a couple grand.
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I don't care either way, If I was insanely rich, and waiting on some one to get some where or to get to Jueno, then maybe I would play a couple of rounds. I hardly be in lower Jueno anyhow, looking up things in AH take too long , with all that lag.

I can see how the shouts can be annoying if your someone looking for help for a big mission or some type of coffer hunt though. and your shouts are bumped out of the text box in 2 seconds.
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I don't mind the Casinos are in the area, I just don't like the shouts every 30 seconds... I hate to blist people for such a stupid reason because now your options on ways to get PTs get even more slim but sometimes I do Blist the casino runners...

I think a better way to run the Casion is to make it a Search Option. Would still get people to come if they wanted to, all they would need to do is search by comments --> Other then they would still have people to gamble. Just a thought though....
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The worst part about this is, I know Tegga some what. He is very good at making gils, and has a lot of gils.. I knew him from BCNM days, and he used to brag to me about how many tims he's won, and how much gils they made.

Maybe to him, making gils is what's fun for him.. /shurg
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I know Tegga, pretty nice taru. Really great to talk to. Just sometimes I'm thoroughly amazed by the amount of gil that lil mage can make. O.o

But I've never gambled and I don't plan on it, Woodworking is a big enough gil black hole for me. ^^
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you think woodwoorking is a gil black hole? Take up smithing or goldsmithing. Smiley: cry I was *smart* enough to take up both at the same time!! Smiley: grin

I saw a casino dood in Sandy (wasn't Tegga, he's not small time) and toyed with the idea, but I seem to have bad luck with the random and lotting. I personally don't care. I thought about running a casino on the airship, but I don't have the financial backing Smiley: tongue

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