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#1 Sep 12 2004 at 1:51 PM Rating: Good
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First -- dammit, don't steal points. Not cool. I don't care if someone did it to you, that doesn't mean you should do it to someone else. If someone's already there and has their hatchet out, act like you have some god[b][/b]damned manners and find another tree.

But the real point of this post is this: Has anyone noticed the three people who seem to be in Ghelsba all the time now? I mean every day for the past two or three weeks. For example, last night, I went logging at around 5pm central. I logged off around two hours later and went out. I returned at 3a.m. to log some more. They were still there.

Level 10-11, no sub, one with full field gear, even the boots, one with none, and one missing only the tunic (I believe he had the boots as well). Two of them don't steal logging points, and seem very polite. One does. That one I'm not sure about the sub issue, as he's always anon.

I'm not naming names. If you log in Ghelsba, you'll know who they are, since they're there every day. I know this to be a fact because I check just about every day to see how many people are there (and then decide if I'm going to go logging). Their names are always on the list. Always. Time of day doesn't matter.

Wood prices seem steady, and as I said, two of the three are polite. That's why I'm not naming names. I see no detriment to their logging all the time, but it makes me a little suspicious, so I'm going to keep an eye on the Ghelsba market.

If nothing else, having three people there -all the time- does harm loggers in one way -- it makes points harder to get. But if that's all that happens, that can be lived with.

Either way, just a head's up. It may be nothing, but it may be an indication of someone trying to take over this market and shut everyone out -- which would be bad for crafters. :/
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#2 Sep 12 2004 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Just a guess, but these may be Gil farmers, I know a couple other servers have had this same type of problem (same people in Ghelsba all day everyday Logging, some rude, some not). But again this is just a guess.
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#3 Sep 12 2004 at 8:37 PM Rating: Decent
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I haven't logged in a while... but I'm going to start up again so I can raise Woodworking even higher!

I will be on the look out Zav!
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#4 Sep 12 2004 at 8:42 PM Rating: Good
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Well, yeah, gil sellers is what I'm worried about. :/ If it gets to the point that a regular player has a hard time logging there, it would suck. Sure, there are other places, but Ghelsba is convenient.
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#5 Sep 12 2004 at 11:16 PM Rating: Decent
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The best thing about logging in Ghelsba is that you don't have to run all over the place like you do in Buburimu and Jugner. I don't log in Ghelsba anymore due to the over rudeness of some people. I've even had some people try to train on me while I'm logging. They train and warp and the orcs either kill low levels try to exp there, or wander back to where they came from. When I used to log there I tried to talk to the other loggers to find out what kind of logs they needed and organize trades. Someone leveling woodworking might be looking for maple log to do maple sugar, while I'm looking for arrowwood for arrows, so it helps to talk to fellow loggers. Then some yell at you for being there, take your points, etc...
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#6 Sep 13 2004 at 2:15 AM Rating: Decent
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I just started logging there about five days ago. I've noticed three people there all the time too. Here's my story real quick.

So, I go there trying to get a couple of Elm logs. A friend of mine says he will need 2 of them, and some other materials to craft me a power bow for mog safe quest.

So, I go to Ghelsba and begin looking for logging points. I find a few, but others beat me to them. No worries. They were quicker on the draw, so it's their spot.

I finally get a space before anyone else, but it was a race. I get an arrowwood log. Suddenly in my tell I see "Mea ni wa" (I think that was it) I sent a tell back "???" She repeated the same thing. I began asking in linkshell, and nobody knew what it meant. So, I kinda ignored it.

I get a few more log points, and again, I get the message. I kinda went with the assumption that it was her telling me off cause I took a tree in "her area" cause she stay around that one section and didn't move away from it. I sent tell with translator that said "I'm sorry. I don't understand" Soon after, I ran out of space and left. I had only gotten one elm log, and went to sell the rest.

As a side story, there was another guy there who was complaining about the three people that were there. Kept calling them **** and telling them to go to Bubu. I ignored him. He seemed upset that he couldn't get to a logging point, and so started taking it out on people. I was ok with his complaining until he said "God damned Japs. And you wonder why we dropped the bomb on you." I told him that was uncalled for. He didn't say anything else the rest of the time I was there.

Anyways, I went back the next day. Same three people there, along with the guy who was complaining about the others that were always there. I found that funny. This time, there were like 8 people logging. The night before, there were only the 5 of us. Now there would be 9. Made it hard to get logging points, but I got my fair share. No elms though. I met a very nice person who asked me what was wrong (I had /fume after still not getting any elm). I told her (forgot her name. Elvaan female) She gave me some logging tips. We kept hunting for our needs. I saw her craft an ash log. So, I offered her the ones I had so I could keep trying for elm. She took them gladly. Everytime I got logs, I would give them to her. She found an elm and gave it to me. I thanked her and went back to Sandy to send to my friend. I had 9 ash lumbers in my mog safe since May, so I sent them to the nice lady in Ghelsba. So, I don't feel bad about taking almost 5k from her.

The following day, I decided to level my woodworking. So, I went back to log. Same three people there again. I get to a log point, and I get that "Mae ni wa" tell again, but not from the same person as before. I ignore it complety this time. The person that sent me the tell a couple of days before was now shouting "If you have any ash logs you are gonna toss. I'll take them for 20 gil" Well, my woodworking skill is only 2. So, arrowwood and maple are all I can craft. I then decide to give away everything else (I've got plenty of money for now, and I'm not greedy) I get an ash, and send tell to person offering money for them. I tell her I'll give it to her for free. Trying to make friends with them all so they accept my presance better.

The next day, that lady didn't seem to speak english anymore. I sent her a tell, saying I have an ash log I'll give her for free, and get "???" as a response. I found another person who was willing to take the logs I couldn't use, so alls good. I had bought the field gloves, and was seeing how well they work on their own. I plan to buy each peice as I make money to pay for them with lumber. I now only go after I get wind crystals from leveling lower level jobs. I log and craft until I'm out of crystals, then go onto next task. Got my woodworking skill to 3, so that made me happy.

I'm really curious what they are telling me in the tells. It's been bugging me for the better part of a week now.
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#7 Sep 13 2004 at 4:23 AM Rating: Decent
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It is really weird about gil farmers because they all seem to be Chinese. They are most always online, and notorious for camping NMs or staying in certain areas. Take the Haixings for example, some speak english and some do not. Some are very nice, and some are extremely, extremely grumpy. For instance, I've seen one of them train someone in Beadeaux for camping what they were camping...
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#8 Sep 13 2004 at 4:59 AM Rating: Good
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You damned loggers always running around! I gotta go around you guys to get to my fishing hole! :p
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#9 Sep 13 2004 at 8:53 AM Rating: Good
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I don't know anything about the Haixings. I've heard they're just a group of pals, and I've heard that they told people straight out that the accounts were for sale, so I tend to just ignore stories about them these days. There's no telling what's up there, and since I see them around, just hanging out, I tend to believe they're just players.

These people in Ghelsba, though... I just don't know. Most people there **** me off because you can tell they're just after elm and are throwing everything else away, because they never synth anything but are there for hours. It's impossible to do that without tossing logs; I've tried. Even with full gobbiebags you couldn't do that. Your inventory just fills up too quickly. But these "regulars," I've seen them sometimes in Sandy crafting. I've seen them out there crafting. So part of me hopes they're just mules dedicated to logging, but that's not how it appears.

I'd rather not have to give up and go to Jugner or Buburimu myself, because Ghelsba is easier from a crafter standpoint, but it's just getting harder and harder to log....
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#10 Sep 13 2004 at 9:14 AM Rating: Decent
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"mae ni wa" means roughly "over there" or "go away"
#11 Sep 13 2004 at 1:56 PM Rating: Default
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at one time i logged in gelshba
i dont anymore cuz alot of those people are rude
minus a few and they only people to steal points from me when
full feild gear mithras with anon on
the main reason i stopped logging there
was the amount of people, one day there were 12 people in that little area all logging ><
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